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I've just received the marriage certificate for my gg grandparents florence r witt and john scholtz in march 1919. It says that he was 26 and she was 33 and the wedding was in marylebone. It has the grooms father down as Jochem Cornelius Scholtz and brides father as Ambrose Witt. I can't find any birth information for John or Jochem. Anyone know where I should look next I'm really not having much luck.

Thanks

Jack

Have you found them on the 1911 censuses?

I cannot see them on the 1911 census

The names sound foreign to me - do you know whether they may be from abroad?

Kath. x

Is this your gg grandmother, with spelling SCHULTZ?
Florence Schultz
Birth Date: 21 Apr 1887
Death Registration Month/Year: 1974
Registration district: Brighton
Inferred County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 0357

Unfortunately I'm unable to afford to upgrade my account to get 1911 census at the moment. I've however searched the 1901 census and couldn't find anything on them on that one either.

It's rather possible that they could be from abroad.

Is Jochem still alive on the marriage certificate, and what are their professions. and any other information?
Thanks

Jochem is still alive on the certificate and his profession is down as builder and contractor

The residence for John is down as 18 Great Barlow Street Marylebone and his profession is Carpenter and something else but the second part is unreadable.

1911?
SCHULTZ, Mary Head Widow F 50 1861 St Pauls Croy Kent
SCHULTZ, John Son Single M 19 1892 Assistant In Woollen Warehouse Whitechapel
SCHULTZ, Edward Son Single M 16 1895 Pattern Hand In Woollen Trade Whitechapel
RG number: RG14 Piece: 1495 Reference: RG14PN1495 RG78PN52 RD18 SD2 ED19 SN162
Registration District: Whitechapel Sub District:
Whitechapel Enumeration District: 19 Parish: St Botolph Without Aldgate
Address: 72 and 73 Katherine Buildings Cartwright St Whitechapel E County: London

Possibly, John is in an orphanage in 1901, and Edward is with his mother (married) and sister in 1901

Added, this is probably wrong then, if he is still alive.

Mr Poulton and family live in 18 Great Barlow St Marylebone in 1911.

When did John die?
Thanks

If this is Florence and John's daughter:
Births Mar 1920
SCHOLTZ Wilhelmina W Witt Marylebone 1a 1098
then it really looks like they were from the Netherlands/Germany.
You need someone with access to shipping records - re-title your query?

Yeah she is their daughter, my great grandmother.

1881 - wonder if this is Ambrose?

Samuel WHITE Head M Male 40 Bethnal Green Labourer
Mary Ann WHITE Wife M Female 40 Bethnal Green
Samuel WHITE Son U Male 17 Bethnal Green Labourer
Thomas WHITE Son Male 16 Bethnal Green Labourer
Mary Ann WHITE Daur Female 13 Bethnal Green Scholar
Ambrose WHITE Son Male 10 Bethnal Green Scholar
Esther WHITE Daur Female 6 Bethnal Green Scholar
John WHITE Son Male 7 m Bethnal Green


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Source Information:
Dwelling 5 Smart Street
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341091
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0422 / 21
Page Number 36

poss connection? 1881

William SADLER Head M Male 32 London, London, Middlesex, England Porter
Julie SADLER Wife M Female 35 London, London, Middlesex, England Porters Wife
Robert SCHULTZ Step Son U Male 14 London, London, Middlesex, England Errand Boy
John SCHULTZ Step Son U Male 8 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar
William SADLER Son U Male 6 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Samuel SADLER Son U Male 10 m London, London, Middlesex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 38 Essex St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341103
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0472 / 73
Page Number 19

not sure about that one, as that would have meant that he was about 15 when florence was born. While not impossible it seems rather young.

1881
Carle EICHOLZ Head M Male 33 Hanover, Germany Tailor
Luise EICHOLZ Wife M Female 28 Hessen Dannstadt, Germany Tailor's Wife
Carl EICHOLZ Son Male 5 St Geo East, Middlesex, England Scholar
Lise EICHOLZ Daur Female 4 Dalston, Middlesex, England
Lewise EICHOLZ Daur Female 1 St Geo East, Middlesex, England
Johann SCHULTZ Apprentice U Male 19 Pomerania, Germany Tailors Apprentice
Susan BOLTER Servant U Female 17 Tower Hamlets, Middlesex, England Domestic Servant
Mina ROBLITZ Lodger U Female 19 Pomerania, Germany Sewing Machinist


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Source Information:
Dwelling 110 Backch Lane
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341099
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0453 / 121
Page Number 17

1881

William T. SCHULTZ Head M Male 32 Rotherhide, Surrey, England Steam Eng. driver
Mary A. SCHULTZ Wife M Female 32 Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Albert W. SCHULTZ Son Male 12 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Scholar
Beatrice L. SCHULTZ Daur Female 7 Poplar, Middlesex, England Scholar
William S. SCHULTZ Son Male 4 Poplar, Middlesex, England Scholar
John A. SCHULTZ Son Male 3 Poplar, Middlesex, England
Jane M.A. SCHULTZ Daur Female 1 Poplar, Middlesex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 29 Dee St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341112
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0503 / 72
Page Number 5

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1901 England Census
about Rose Witt
Name: Rose Witt
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Ambrose
Mother's Name: Harriet
Gender: Female
Where born: Christchurch, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Christ Church East
Ecclesiastical parish: Bransgore St Mary
Town: Neacroft Bransgore
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Christchurch
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 153
Household Members: Name Age
Ambrose Witt 52
Harriet Witt 47
William Witt 25
Bertie Witt 18
Rose Witt 15
Jane Dowden 24
Ernest Witt 19


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Think I'm going to have to call it a night for now, falling asleep at my laptop. Will take another look at the info in the morning. Thanks for all your help so far folks.