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hi robyn

yes the son was called robert john janaway

rache

hi kathy

sorry can't see him any where

regards
rache

hi robyn

think this is robert senior




The 1881 Census

1881 England Census
about Robert Janaway
Name: Robert Janaway
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James E.
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Clapham, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 86 Larkhall Lane
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Errand Boy

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Kennington First
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James E. Janaway 50
Elizabeth Janaway 52
James E. Janaway 26
Elizabeth Janaway 21
Emma Janaway 19
Robert Janaway 17
Rosey Janaway 11
Frederick Janaway 14
Minnie Janaway 8



rache

hi robyn

possable death for

eliza alice

Name: Eliza Alice Janaway
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 30
District: Wandsworth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 367

rache

Hi Rache

I'm trying to find my great Aunts, Alice Daniels born 1894, she may have been married in 1911 in which case she would have been Alice Litherland. Martha Daniels 1895, if she was married in 1911 she would have been Martha Jones. and Mary Daniels, born 1898 they where all born in St.Helens, Lancashire, (now Merseyside). Their parents where Henry and Martha Daniels. Hope you can help.
Thanks
Sian

Hi Rache,
Could I ask where you found the birth of Robert John Janaway junior, because you knew the names of both parents. I have not ever found where I can do that. It's just that I wondered if there was maybe another child.
cheers
Robyn

hi chris

here you go

Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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WILSON, Joseph Head Married M 39 1872 Hotel Manager York VIEW
WILSON, Hannah E Wife Married
19 years F 39 1872 Assisting In The Business Whitby VIEW
WILSON, Thomas W Son Single M 18 1893 Apprentice Bricklayer North Ormesby Mbr VIEW
WILSON, Ann Daughter Single F 15 1896 Apprentice Dressmaker Middlesbro VIEW
WILSON, Evelyn R Daughter Single F 14 1897 School Middlesbro VIEW
WILSON, Joseph Son Single M 12 1899 School Middlesbro VIEW
WILSON, Doris Daughter Single F 9 1902 School North Ormesby VIEW
WILSON, Cecil Son Single M 7 1904 School North Ormesby VIEW
WILSON, Leo Son Single M 5 1906 North Ormesby VIEW
TUDDENHAM, William Nephew Single M 27 1884 Barman Stockton VIEW
DUNCAN, Mary Ann Servant Single F 19 1892 General Servant Middlesbro VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29224 Reference:
RG14PN29224 RG78PN1694 RD535 SD1 ED21 SN246

Registration District:
Middlesbrough Sub District:
Ormesby Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
Ormesby

Address:
133 Smeaton St North Ormesby County:
Yorkshire (North riding)


all the best
rache

hi sian
this could be alice as shes not with the rest of the family

Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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ARNOLD, John Head Widower M 46 1865 Day Wage Man In Mine Cheifly Hewer Appleton Nr Widnes Lancs VIEW
ARNOLD, Charles Son Single M 26 1885 Painter Lancs St Helens VIEW
ARNOLD, Herbert Son Single M 23 1888 Fitter And Turner Lancs St Helens VIEW
ARNOLD, Edith Emily Daughter Single F 20 1891 House Work Lancs St Helens VIEW
ARNOLD, John Son Single M 15 1896 Haulage Hand Surface Lancs St Helens VIEW
ARNOLD, Percy Son M 12 1899 Errand Boy Lancs St Helens VIEW
ARNOLD, Harold Stanley Son M 6 1905 School Lancs St Helens VIEW
DANIELS, Alice Cousin Single F 16 1895 House Work Lancs St Helens VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22809 Reference:
RG14PN22809 RG78PN1333 RD456 SD5 ED55 SN160

Registration District:
Prescot Sub District:
St Helens Enumeration District:
55 Parish:
St Helens

Address:
74 Broad Oak Road St Helens County:
Lancashire

rache

hi sian

no sign of martha but heres the rest of the family

Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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DANIELS, Henry Head Married M 42 1869 Colliery Fireman Underground Broad Oak Parr St Helens Lancs VIEW
DANIELS, Martha Wife Married
17 years F 34 1877 Peabe Cross St Helens Lanc VIEW
DANIELS, Mary Ellen Daughter F 12 1899 School Parr St Helens Lanc VIEW
DANIELS, Charles Son M 10 1901 School Parr St Helens Lanc VIEW
DANIELS, James Son M 8 1903 School Parr St Helens Lanc VIEW
DANIELS, Wilfred Son M 3 1908 Parr St Helens Lanc VIEW
DANIELS, Janis Daughter F 1 1910 Parr St Helens Lanc VIEW
DANIELS, Clara Daughter F 5 1906 School Parr St Helens Lanc VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22806 Reference:
RG14PN22806 RG78PN1333 RD456 SD5 ED52 SN167

Registration District:
Prescot Sub District:
St Helens Enumeration District:
52 Parish:
St Helens

Address:
9 Epsom St St Helens County:
Lancashire

rache

hi robyn

found it on ancestry

rache

Hi Rache,
REF: John James Potter circa 1903.
Now having received the wedding certificate of John James potter.
States he was 23 yrs in 1925.
His father was John James Potter as well.The address in 1925 was 18 Ripon Street,Attercliffe,Sheffield.
So it wasn´t the one you found for me the other day.If you have time could you please look again now we have his fathers name.
Many thanks
Catherine

Thanks Rache - would appear these may not relate - although Town Head farm is mentioned - I know of family who lived at the Town Head -so distinct possibility they relate - will have to delve further.

Could you do a look up for a william Main born 1906 - Ulgham either living at Town Head or the Manor Farm - he was married to a Lillian Wright - born 1903 - widdrington.

Much appreciated
Alison

hi catherine

still no luck,checked the address and theres a different family living there just a thought what was his fathers occupation

will keep looking

rache

hi alison

here you go

Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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MAIN, Adams Head Married M 29 1882 Farmer's Son Working On Farm Bank Top Bedlington VIEW
MAIN, Clara Grace Wife Married
6 years F 29 1882 Northumberland Morpeth VIEW
MAIN, Lizzie Daughter F 6 1905 Ulgham Northd VIEW
MAIN, William Son M 5 1906 Ulgham Northd VIEW
MAIN, Evelyn L V Daughter F 2 1909 Ulgham Northd VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
31051 Reference:
RG14PN31051 RG78PN1776 RD564 SD3 ED18 SN9

Registration District:
Morpeth Sub District:
Ashington Enumeration District:
18 Parish:
Ulgham

Address:
Town Head Cottage Ulgham Morpeth County:
Northumberland

rache

Hi Rache,
It said on the certificate that he was a fitter.
Hope this helps
Catherine

Thanks again Rache - these are some of the family - now managed to trace Clara's family- maiden name was fogerty - managed to trace back to her father and grandfather - now stumped!!
Grandfather - Michael fogerty - born 1818 in Ireland - but where unknown. I assume census for Ireland was separate to England. Where would I go from here?

Thanks very much Rache,
Could you look up the following two people on the 1911, again I have got free search details.
We did try for George a few days ago but came up blank. However, info from relative in England seems to think he was living 1911 near Eccles, Manchester not far from his daughter. His wife had left and we think he was boarding.

HOUSEHOLD HARTLEY GEORGE M 1860 51 Salford Lancashire

This appears to be the wife who took off.

HOUSEHOLD HARTLEY ELEANOR F 1864 47 Axbridge Somersetshire

Thanks Chris

Many many thanks Rache you have answered a lot of questions for me. Obviously the reason I couldn't find the Janaways was because they had died so young. I have not found Eliza Alice and her son in 1891 census but found the son Robert John with his grandfather in the 1901 census. By 1911 it appears from FreeBMD that the son had married.
Your help has been tremendous and has put flesh on the bones of the story. thanks again
Robyn

hi alison

not sure where you find irish records dont think there many left due to a fire

rache

hi chris

here you go

Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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SHUTTELTON, James Head Married M 32 1879 Plumber Scotland Glasgow Resident VIEW
SHUTTELTON, Elizabeth Wife Married
7 years F 34 1877 Kent Canterbury VIEW
SHUTTELTON, Thom As Son Single M 5 1906 Scholar Scotland Glasgow Resident VIEW
HOWE, Jessie Boarder Single F 34 1877 Milliner Kent Canterbury VIEW
HARTLEY, George Boarder Married M 51 1860 Laundries Derby Matlock VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
24048 Reference:
RG14PN24048 RG78PN1384 RD465 SD4 ED5 SN197

Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
Regent Road Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Salford

Address:
70 Coronation St Salford Manchester County:
Lancashire


Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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HAMAN, Lilian Boarder Single F 33 1878 Somerset VIEW
FYFE, Alice Boarder Married F 37 1874 Hensingham VIEW
WILKINSON, Basil Thomas Boarder Married M 32 1879 Travelling Inspector Leeds Yorkshire VIEW
WILKINSON, Priscilla Boarder Married F 29 1882 Barrow in Furness Lancs VIEW
HARTLEY, Eleanor Head Married F 47 1864 Boarding House Keeper London VIEW
HARTLEY, Malka Daughter Single F 25 1886 Assisting Boarding House Keeper London VIEW
HARTLEY, Ethel Daughter Single F 20 1891 Assisting Boarding House Keeper Swindon Wilts VIEW
CRUMP, Emma Boarder Single F 69 1842 Private Means Calne Wilts VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
14595 Reference:
RG14PN14595 RG78PN884 RD314 SD3 ED13 SN29

Registration District:
Axbridge Sub District:
Weston Super Mare Enumeration District:
13 Parish:
Weston Super Mare

Address:
5 Beach Road Weston S Mare County:
Somersetshire

rache