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Commercial traveller. I couldn't find John Dakin Hawkins anywhere

Their address in April 1878 was Low Street, Chingford

no one of those names living in Low street in 1881

1881 census transcription details for: 1 & 60, Devonshire St, St Marylebone
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 137 Folio: 14 Page: 20

Reg. District: Marylebone Sub District: All Souls
Parish: St Marylebone Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 1 & 60, Devonshire St, St Marylebone
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
DAVIS, Samuel Head Married M 37 1844 Hotel Keeper
Llangmyech
Wales
DAVIS, Anna J Wife Married F 32 1849
Over Stowey
Somerset
GOODSON, June Servant Single F 30 1851 Housemaid
Hackney
Middlesex
WHITE, Ellen Servant Single F 15 1866 Gen Servant
London
Middlesex
BERRY, Charles Servant Single M 20 1861 Waiter
Wellington
Somerset
DOUCE, A Lodger Widower M 60 1821 Retired Broker
London
Middlesex
>>>>>>>>>HAWKINS, John Boarder Single M 24 1857 Commercial Traveller
Bridgewater
Somerset
DIXIE, Wolstan F Boarder Single M 54 1827 Physician
Chertsey
Surrey
WARING, Arthur J Boarder Single M 32 1849 Civil Engineer
Channel Islands
PETTERSON, John N Boarder Single M 49 1832 Timber Agent
(Foreign)
Sweden
ROGERS, Louis S Boarder Single M 52 1829 Traveller
Grantham
Lincolnshire
KIGGS, William Boarder Single M 27 1854 Traveller
Ireland
BOUCHARD, Albert Boarder Single M 41 1840 Chartered Accountant
Scotland
JENKINS, Thos A Boarder Single M 37 1844 Secretary (Clerk)
Epping
Essex
STEWART, Samuel Boarder Single M 31 1850 Manufacturer
Ireland
MORROW, James Boarder Single M 28 1853 Agent
Ireland
ROBERT, Russell Boarder Widower M 31 1850 Agent
Ireland
PENNELL, Lovell Boarder Single M 40 1841 Secretary (Clerk)
Dawlish
Devon
TREGASKIS, Edward J Boarder Single M 32 1849 Solicitor
British Subject
West Indies
STEELE, Robert H Boarder Single M 28 1853 Clerk Life Office
London
Middlesex
WHITTAKER, Fredk Boarder Widower M 45 1836 Auditor (Acct)
Lancaster Cheetham
Lancashire

I have to go out for a bit but will be back later,

MB

John says he's sinle and I can't find a marriage for him. In 1871 census Ann McRae (widow of James) was living at 44 Devonshire Street, Holborn with her sons John, Daniel and Henderson. Can't find them on the 1881 census and know that Henderson only returned from India on 31st March 1881. But perhaps they knew one another?

Family taking over room again but please let me know if you can find anything else.

I cant find:-
a birth or marriage or a census entry for an Amelia Jahn
a birth or marriage for John Dakin Hawkins
a marriage for Henderson McRae

I dont think that any one of them married the other! If Amelia and this John were married, why would their child be elsewhere and not with them?

Really beginning to suspect that Emily and Amelia are one and the same and possibly Emily had a child by John Hawkins and they went their own ways . Why she would say she was married to Henderson and widowed when he was still single in 1881 is a mystery too.

I'll send for the certs for Amelia Hawkins to see if they are any help. Have never heard the name Dakin mentioned nor Cornwall - we're supposedly from Scotland! Frustrating isn't it! Hope it's all right if I let you know when Amelia info arrives. Many thanks for your support and help so far.

Look forward to fresh info.....good luck!

Have you looked on the census to see if there are any Amelia Hawkins born c1859. I did and there were two possible unmarried Amelias in the vicinity of the death references. Also, wasn't one of those that you listed aged "0"? No need t follow up on that one then. Certificates are pricey!

Births Mar 1859
HAWKINS Amelia Lambeth 1d 399
HAWKINS Amelia Sophia Poplar 1c 675
Births Jun 1859
HAWKINS Amelia Sarah Kensington 1a 20
Births Jun 1860
Hawkins Amelia Lambeth 1d 288
Hawkins Amelia Ann Hampstead 1a 460


MB

Hi certs arrived today and I should have listened to you...neither were my Amelia (Hawkins d 1883 not her and the baby was nothing to do with either of them). Found an Amalia Jahn m Norwich 1870 but her husband was Hunt so presumably she is discounted as Frank's birth cert says mother's name is Amelia Hawkins formerly Jahn.Can't find an Amelia who married into Jahn family. Feel certain that you have found Frank - it feels right but not convinced Emily is the mother. Cannot imagine her having two unmarried husbands and still returning to live in the family home. It doesn't feel that sort of a family. I know Frank had connections with St Osyth (Tendring district) as my father told us they spent summers there. The Frederick who died in 1938 at Tendring was poss Emily's nephew. Any further thoughts please?

Hi Barbara,

have you had any luck with this yet?

It would appear that this John Hawkins in the 1881 census got married in 1889 Kensington district and settled down in the Hosiery trade.

1891 England Census
about John Hawkins
Name: John Hawkins
Age: 33
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Florence A
Gender: Male
Where born: Bridgewater, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hawkins 33
Florence A Hawkins 27
Richard H Hawkins 1

1901 England Census
about John Hawkins
Name: John Hawkins
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Florence
Gender: Male
Where born: Bridgewater, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Bayswater
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 229
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hawkins 43
Florence Hawkins 34
Ralph Hawkins 9
Winifred Hawkins 8
Mary Wills 45

No mention of the name Daykin anywhere.

Hi, thanks for info. Have tried contacts of Jahn family but Amelia not known to them. Am trying contacts of Hawkins family.

Sorry to add to queries but have got John's marriage cert to Florence Cranswick on June 4th 1889. He gives his age as 32, bachelor, hosier of 88 High Street Notting hill and his father's name as Richard Hawkins (deceased). I cannot find any John Hawkins of about his age with a father Richard anywhere. He gives one of the marriage witnesses as Mary Popham Hawkins but the only Mary with father Richard in Bridgewater had a brother John b 1847/8 in 1861 census. Please can you offer any suggestions?

Hi Barbara,

This is John Hawkins on the 1901 and his sister is Mary Wills nee Hawkins:


1901 England Census
about Mary Wills
Name: Mary Wills
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Gender: Female
Where born: Bridgewater, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Bayswater
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 229
Household Members:
Name Age
>>>>>>>John Hawkins 43
Florence Hawkins 34
Ralph Hawkins 9
Winifred Hawkins 8
>>>>>>>>Mary Wills 45



England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about Mary Popham Hawkins
Name: Mary Popham Hawkins
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bridgwater
County: Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 524
Robert George Wills


in 1861?

1861 England Census
about Mary T Hawkins
Name: Mary T Hawkins
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richard
Gender: Female
Where born: Bridgwater, Somerset, England

Civil parish: Bridgwater
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Bridgwater
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Bridgwater
Sub-registration district: Bridgwater
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Hawkins 52
John Hawkins 13
Mary T Hawkins 5
Eliza Fogarty 20

Could very well be Mary P Hawkins on the original copy.( look at the occupations re Plumber, Painter on the copy)
John Hawkins age is obliterated on the census copy but I think that it is age 3 ( after enlarging it to capacity)

MB

Thank you, your help has made all the difference.

Please can you help me find John Hawkins in 1871. Mother died 1860, father Richard died 1870, sister Mary was at school in Yeovil but cannot find John. Any ideas please?

Age a little out but a possible?


1871 England Census
about John Hawkings
Name: John Hawkings
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1858
Relation: Pupil
Gender: Male
>>>>>>>Where born: Bridgewater, Somerset, England
Civil parish: Compton Bishop
Ecclesiastical parish: Bath and Wells
Town: Compton Bishop
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Registration district: Axbridge
Sub-registration district: Axbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
William Clarke 40
Maria M Clarke 42
Willm H Clarke 12
Arthur Clarke 9
Bertha Clarke 8
Kitty Marsh 18
Walter Rciahrdson 16
Harry Ellis 13
Bevis Collins 12
Thomas Crossman 9
George Biss 11
Edwin Wall 13
Henry Cook 11
William Brown 10
Robert Fry 10
Richard Houley 13
Henry J Moss 13
William James 12
Clarina T Bowjin 13
John Webber 11
Albert Amesbury 10
Edward Heale 14
William Dibble 12
John Hawkings 13 born Burnham
>>>>>>>>>John Hawkings 13 born Bridgewater
Samuel Hurley 16
William Keen 15
John Slocombe 12
Philip Pearce 14
Eliza Brooke 17
Eliza J Capel 16
Emma J Crandon 13

On original census it looks as if the "g" has been crossed out and "S" written in.

address is Cross Middle School

on the previous image (page 8) is a family of Pophams

Fantastic,thank you