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Hi, Not sure if you pick up on all my posting if I dont click the add under name or not, so just sending you this so that you can see what has been posted so far.

ok will do, thanks.

What do you think of the letter which my mother gave me, do you think there will be any clues there?

Thanks will do. will keep you posted.
this is like putting together a jiz saw with missing pieces

Hi Thistledown, on what web site did you find this info, as I can not find it. I have found one on http:/tinyurl.com/2wwldhr
but the only one i can find is Bridget Hanly, Place in Boyle, vol 4 , page 37, digial folder 4199370, film 101578, year oct - dec 1942, but I am sure this is not the right one.
please let me know where you got your info from.

thanks, I thought that I looked at this on Saturaday, but then today at work (probably be coz I was rushing) I could not find it and so thought I had just made it up or read it on your notes. Many thanks the Dozy one. lol

Hi sumerset Girl
I have now located my mother Baptism Cert. from the Sacred Heart Hospital, and they will send it on to on Tuesday, :) this is great news as it should contain more info.
The Marriage cert of Bridget, hasnt arrived yet but should come next week.
will keep you posted.

I have printed off most of it to create a file of the Hanly family, but thanks for the tip.
speak soon.Jacs

Hi Somerset Girl.
ok I now have the Baptism cert for my mother Mary Hanly details as:-
Parish Roscommon
Diocese of Elphin
Born 28.03.1942
in the Church of "The Sacred Heart, Roscommon
by Rev: J Gallagher
Parents: Brigit Hanly
sponsors: Francis Fagan
Mary F. Leddy (this could be Lally)?


and the Marriage Cert of Delia Lally and Luke Hanly
as follows:-
Maried 3rd March 1919
Profession Farmer
Residence at time of Marriage:
Luke - Portrun?
Delia - Acres
Fathers names: Luke Hanly
Michael Lally
both Farmers
Witness: Thomas Brennan?
Margaret Walsh

where there is a ? means I can not read it properly.

Marriage Cert of Bridgit Hanly details as flollows:
Marriage on 24th Sept 1946
to: Francis Kerrigan
Profession: Driver / Nurse
Residence at time of Mariage: Laixon? / Drumsary?
Fathers names: Peter Kerrigan
James Hanly
Both Farmers
Witness: Kevin Kerrigan
Margaret?Hanly

Dont know where to go from here as I thought the marriage cert of Bridget would have fathers name as Luke Hanly and not James Hanly???
any suggestions now?

Can't really remember now, but I will check it out and order it if poss? thanks anyway, keep you posted.

Hi Somerset Girl
Just to let you know that I sent off for the other Marriage cert but as yet it has not arrived.

i have asked a Geneologist what would be the best way of going about this to make sure we have right Bridget Hanly her is what she suggest? please read it and let me know what you think, and can we do this between us?

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Dear Jacqui Bell,

Thank you for your email and I apologise for the delay of my response.

The only concrete information that you have is that Mary Hanly was born on 28th March 1942 in the County Home of Roscommon the daughter of Bridget Hanly a domestic from Cloonyquin. At the Sacred Heart Hospital in Roscommon Bridget Hanly's address was given as Creevy.

The addresses given by Bridget Hanly at the time of her daughter's birth might be the best clue to her origins. There were two townlands called Creevy in Co. Roscommon. Creevy, located in the civil parish of Tibohine and Creevyquin in the civil parish of Kilteevan. The townland of Cloonyquin is located in the civil parish of Fuerty.

A search of the 1911 census, has identified a Hanly family residing in the townland of Creevyquin. This makes this the best option for tracing the family of Bridget Hanly.

I would recommend that we search the Cancelled Books, which were rate books that recorded the ratepayer for each household in Ireland up to 1970, for the townlands of Creevy, Creevyquin and Cloonyquin for references to a Hanly family at one of these addresses. If we locate a Hanly family at one of these addresses, we can assume that Bridget was a child of this family.

We can then search the civil birth register for Bridget Hanly born between
1912 and 1926 (when she would have been aged between 16 and 30) to a father with the same name as the head of the household at the address given. If we can find a Bridget Hanly born at Creevy, Creevyquin or Cloonyquin, we can be much more certain that this was your grandmother, as the address is consistent with that given on your mother's birth records.

Although we try to recommend research that is likely to produce a successful outcome, in your case, I cannot be certain that we will find the households we are looking for at the addresses given, however, this is the best recommendation that I can make.
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let me know your comments somerset girl.

Ok - so I should order the marriage cert of Delia and Luke, yeah. so that we can see how old they are?and who there parents are? yeah - ok will do.

and I will order the birth cert for brother luke hanly.

How do I go about looking at the cancelled books? what is the web site do you know?

not sure the genealogist will tell me as she charges €140.00 for her service.

I have sent an email to the Achives section telling them the story of my mother and the address given on her Baptisim cert. But I does say that it my take 5 -10 days to get a reply.

Yeah I am glad i just wish i could find something more concrete to be able to tell my mum that I have found her mother would be the most wonderful thing I could ever do for her, as she often wonders why she was given up, and what the situation was like for her mother you know all the unanswerd question.

anyway just received the Marriage cert for Bridget Hanly 1943, and this doesn't look like the right on either.
details are:
Michael Connolly
married Brigid Hanley
on 19.01.1943
his farther is William Connolly Farmer
and Brigid farther is John Hanley Farmer
married in the church of Rooskey

so another dead end. Maybe My grandmother never got married? may be the name on my mothers birth cert for Bridget is a false one as many girls back then oftern had to use false names?

thanks for your words of encouragement, Im just feeling sorry for myself today!

the reason why I said that she may have used a false name is that, back then in Ireland it was shameful to have a child out of wedlock, and so the unmarried mothers were sent to convents to have there babies, but always used a false name so that when the babies were fostered or adopted the mothers could not be traced, and hence bring more shame on the family? but I do not know if this rule also applied to birth certs? or only the register in the convents?

But like you said I should wait for the cancelled books for more info.

Hi Somerset girl, I have a reply now from timeline researchers. there are 4 pages plus a birth cert so I will try to shorten it:-
Bridget Hanly (more likely to be correct one) was born 29.09.1920 at Creevy (this is the address in my mothers letter)
she is the Daughter of Martin Hanly (farmer) and his wife Mary Hanly (formerly Taaffe)
additional info:
in 1900 lot no.8 was occupied by Michael Hanly Jnr. who leased a house, offices 26.1.08 acres of land from Captain Charles Stopford. In 1904 Occupation of the landholding was transferred from Michael Hanly to his representatives indicating that Michael had died. and in 1905 the next recored occupier became Martin Hanly (Michaels son) until 1942 when he died. Martins wife Mary Hanly took over the property in 1948 where she remained at creevyquin until 1961. when she probably died and the holding was transfed to Martin Conroy?

Where do we go from here now? any ideas.
ps they have supplied me with a photo copy of the birth cert for Bridget.

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Jacqui,
just a thought, is possible that Martin Conroy is the grandson of Martin/mary ?.If so it could be another avenue from which to search for Bridget

Hi Jacqui,

Marraige for Martin Hanly and Mary Taaffe
Roscommon 1914 Jan-Mar Vol 3 Page 252
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Death of a Martin Hanly Roscommon Jan-Mar 1941 Vol. 3 Page 202.aged 70 years est. birth year 1871.
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Lily

thanks Liam & Lily, I will take a look at these this evening,

I really want to find where Bridget is now (for my mum who would love to know) if her mother was still alive or if she (my mum) had any other brothers and Sisters.
So do you have any ideas on where I could start to find her??