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Dea
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5 Apr 2010 18:10 |
Sorry Jeb - Have to go off!
Will catch up with you tomorrow - It looks like you are getting somewhere!!
Dea Xxx
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jeb101
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5 Apr 2010 17:10 |
Thanks LK, I have found a John Smith , cabinet maker, on the 1841 census living at Owen's Square, New George Street, with his mother Elizabeth. Curiously, living next door is Sarah Lankester, with her mother. I have a marriage cert which I think is George's parents, and they are John Smith and Sarah Lankester. If this is John, I have found his mother's name. Yippee.
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5 Apr 2010 17:03 |
Dea, On the 1861 census , living at 53 New George Street is John and Sarah Smith with their 7 children. There is a George but he is only 2 years old !!! John is a cabinet maker too !! Strange .
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LadyKira
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5 Apr 2010 17:00 |
1841 census Address: High Street, Holy Trinity, Kingston On Hull WHITE, Robert M 35 1806 Yorkshire VIEW WHITE, Rachel F 30 1811 Yorkshire VIEW WHITE, Hannah F 14 1827 Yorkshire VIEW WHITE, Thomas M 12 1829 Yorkshire VIEW WHITE, Eliza F 10 1831 Yorkshire VIEW WHITE, Sarah F 8 1833 Yorkshire VIEW WHITE, Betsy F 5 1836 Yorkshire VIEW WHITE, Charles M 0 (4 months) 1841 Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, John M 30 1811 Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, Sarah F 30 1811 Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, John M 6 1835 Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, Mary F 4 1837 Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, Sarah F 3 1838 Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, Jane F 1 1840 Yorkshire VIEW FRYER, John M 30 1811 Yorkshire VIEW FRYER, Mary F 20 1821 Yorkshire VIEW FRYER, Hannah F 2 1839 Yorkshire VIEW CLARK, John M 30 1811 Yorkshire VIEW CLARK, Harriet F 25 1816 Yorkshire VIEW CLARK, Hannah F 1 1840 Yorkshire VIEW CLARK, Sarah F 6 1835 Yorkshire
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5 Apr 2010 16:48 |
Thanks everyone, Smiths are a headache !!!!!! One of the birth certs I have has 53 New George Street Hull as the address, so I think I'll have to concentrate on that one.
I'll start on other branches next - Williams, Robert and Jones from Wales. Aaaaarrrggghhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Families, don't you just love them ?
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Dea
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5 Apr 2010 16:45 |
Thanks LK,
This is VERY complicated,
We really need to follow through one of those John's to 1861 and find him as a 'sail maker'
I suppose your 'sailor' is a good candidate but also the 'joiner' who I found could have been responsible for making the mast parts of the sails??
There is a LOT of work to do here!!
Dea x
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5 Apr 2010 16:41 |
That is 3 George's same street. Have fun
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5 Apr 2010 16:40 |
and dea's George
At 53 New George St.: 1851 England Census Name: George Smith Age: 6 Mo : abt 1850 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England
John Smith 34 Journeyman Joiner Sarah Smith 31 Sarah A Smith 8 Elizabeth Smith 7 James Smith 4 Eliza Smith 2 George Smith 6 Mo
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LadyKira
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5 Apr 2010 16:37 |
This is George W same street and parents are John and Sarah'
1851 Person: SMITH, George W Address: 9, New George Street Owen's Square, Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull SMITH, John Head Married M 40 1811 Sailor Hull Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, Sarah Wife Married F 42 1809 Holme Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, John Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Coopers Apprentice Hull Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 14 1837 Scholar Hull Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, Sarah A Daughter F 12 1839 Scholar Hull Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, Jane Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar Hull Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, Anstasia Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar Hull Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, George W Son M 0 (1 MOS) 1851 Scholar Hull Yorkshire
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LadyKira
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5 Apr 2010 16:32 |
She married the lodger
1851 census - Address: 76, New George Street, Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull SMITH, Harriet Head Widow F 33 1818 Green Grocer Hull Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, Charles Son M 5 1846 Scholar Hull Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, George Son M 3 1848 Scholar Hull Yorkshire VIEW ROBINSON, Thomas Lodger Widower M 34 1817 Cotton Factory Packer N K Lincolnshire VIEW ROBINSON, William M 9 1842 Scholar N K Lincolnshire
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jeb101
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5 Apr 2010 16:28 |
I have no idea where the Whitehouse comes from , but it has been passed down through the generations. I thought it might have comne through the female line, maybe a maiden name , but no joy yet.
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5 Apr 2010 16:27 |
Looking at Harriet married to Robinson
1871 census - household transcription Person: ROBINSON, Harriet Address: Wincolmlee, Sculcoates, Hull ROBINSON, Thomas Head M 56 1815 Lincolnshire VIEW ROBINSON, Harriet Wife F 54 1817 Yorkshire VIEW ROBINSON, Walter Son M 16 1855 Yorkshire VIEW SPENCER, John Henry Brother-In-Law M 44 1827 Yorkshire
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LadyKira
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5 Apr 2010 16:24 |
The first marriage uses name Whitehouse to Ann
We have a Geoge Smith who is a cooper and A George Smith who is a barrelmaker living on the same street . George Whitehouse is first a blacksmith.
I just love Smiths. 3 David Smiths in my class at school.
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5 Apr 2010 16:03 |
1st marriage New George Street Hull 2nd marriage - Goole.
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LadyKira
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5 Apr 2010 15:52 |
What are the addresses on the marriage certificates?
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LadyKira
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5 Apr 2010 15:43 |
Another possibility if he started as a blacksmith
1851 census - household transcription Address: 12, Constable's Buildings, English Street, Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull SMITH, William Head Married M 29 1822 Blacksmith Potter Hanworth Lincolnshire SMITH, Ann Wife Married F 30 1821 Sculcoates Yorkshire SMITH, George Son M 3 1848 Hull SMITH, Caroline Daughter F 2 1849 Hull SMITH, Mary A Daughter F 1 1850 Hull V ALCOCK, Elizabeth Sister-In-Law Unmarried F 26 1825 Dress Maker Gainsbro Lincolnshire
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5 Apr 2010 15:35 |
1891 census - household transcription Person: SMITH, George Address: 8, New George Street, Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull SMITH, George Head Married M 43 1848 Mariner Hull Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, Elizabeth Wife Married F 43 1848 Hull Yorkshire
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5 Apr 2010 15:33 |
also
1881 Address: 8, Owing Sq New George Street, Sculcoates SMITH, George Head Married M 32 1849 Mariner Hull Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, Elizabeth Wife Married F 3 1878 Hull Yorkshire
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Dea
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5 Apr 2010 15:31 |
Well, on his first marriage he was obviously underage and marrying someone several years older than him so he may well have lied??
Dea x
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5 Apr 2010 15:27 |
Take a closer look at this one. It is the same address as George and Ann 1871
1861 census - Address: 65, New George Street, Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull ROBINSON, Thomas Head Married M 47 1814 Provision Dealer Waterton Lincolnshire VIEW ROBINSON, Harriet Wife Married F 44 1817 Hull Yorkshire VIEW ROBINSON, William Son Unmarried M 19 1842 Iron... Waterton Lincolnshire VIEW SMITH, Charles Son M 16 1845 Joiner Hull Yorkshire VIEW SMITH, George Son Unmarried M 14 1847 Cooper Hull Yorkshire VIEW ROBINSON, Frederick Son M 8 1853 Scholar Hull Yorkshire VIEW ROBINSON, Walter Son M 6 1855 Scholar Hull Yorkshire
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