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My great grand-father was called George Smith and his father was called John Smith . George was born 1849 or 1848 as I have his marriage and death certificates and I have located him on the censuses. I have 3 birth certificates for him and all have the father's name as John. How do I know which is the right one ? Any ideas anyone ?
Thanks

Is there any clue in the father's occupation?

Hi Michael,
On his marriage certificates his father is a sailmaker but on the birth certificates he is a labourer.

All 3 a labourer?

Do the marriage witnesses not help? (sometimes you can tie them up to the census as siblings or cousins)

Could you point him out on one of the earlier census please?

Maureen

There must be siblings to follow and 'match up' ?

Can you post the census where you have George who you KNOW to be the correct one and we can start from there?

Dea x

On the first marriage certificates John and Mary Smith are the witnesses and on the second it is the new in-laws. The birth certificates give the mother's name as either Sarah or Ann.
I'm looking through my papers so please bear with me.

Can you give us an early census to look at while you sort through your paperwork?

Dea x

Hi again,
August 1870 George is living at New George Street , Hull aged 21 ( from his marriage certificate).
1871 census living at 65 New George Street , Hull with his wife Ann.
1880 George is living in Goole ( 2nd marriage). Aged 31 years.
1881 living at 40 Back South Street, Goole with wife Fanny.
1891 3 English Buildings , Hook.
1901 14 Rose Terrace , Hull.
1911 20 Sister's Terrace, Tadman Street, Hull.
He died in 1917 and was living at 5 Victoria Terrace, Newton Street , Hull.
Aged 68 years.
Interestingly, he uses the middle name Whitehouse in the later censuses and on his marriage certificates, but this is not on the birth certificates I have.

1911 census -
Address: 20 Sisters Terrace Tadman Street Hull
SMITH, George Whitehouse Head Married M 62 1849 Driller Hull Yorkshire
SMITH, Fanny Wife Married 30 years F 52 1859 Goole Yorkshire
SMITH, Kate Eleanor Daughter Single F 15 1896 Goole Yorkshire
SMITH, Minnie Irene Daughter Single F 12 1899 School Hull Yorkshire

1901 census -
Address: 14, Alfred Street Rose Terrace, Holy Trinity And St Mary
SMITH, George W Head Married M 51 1850 Ship Driller (Mechc)
Hull Yorkshire
SMITH, Fanny Wife Married F 42 1859
Goole Yorkshire
SMITH, Sarah E Daughter Single F 24 1877
Goole Yorkshire
SMITH, William F Son Single M 18 1883 Ship Driller (Mechc)
Goole
Yorkshire
SMITH, George W Son Single M 14 1887 Ship Rivet Heater
Goole
Yorkshire
SMITH, Kate Eleanor Daughter Single F 5 1896
Goole Yorkshire
SMITH, Minnie J Daughter Single F 2 1899
Hull Yorkshire
SMITH, Olive W Grand Daughter Single F 2 1899
Hull Yorkshire
MILLAR, Edward Boarder Married M 46 1855 Fish Curer
Newcastle on Tyne

Worth a look on 1851 - I will try to follow it through!

At 53 New George St.:
1851 England Census
about George Smith
Name: George Smith
Age: 6 Mo
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Sculcoates
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England



Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: East Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 34 Journeyman Joiner
Sarah Smith 31
Sarah A Smith 8
Elizabeth Smith 7
James Smith 4
Eliza Smith 2
George Smith 6 Mo


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2361; Folio: 156; Page: 5; GSU roll: 87633-87634.

Dea x

1891 census -
Address: 3, English Buildings, Doyle Street, Hook, Goole
SMITH, George Whitehouse Head Married M 41 1850 Iron Ship Builder Driller
Hull
Yorkshire
SMITH, Fanny Wife Married F 32 1859
Goole
Yorkshire
WAREHAM, Sarah Elizabeth Stepdaughter F 14 1877
Goole
Yorkshire
SMITH, William Francis Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Goole
Yorkshire
SMITH, Agnes Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar
Goole
Yorkshire
SMITH, George Whitehouse Son M 4 1887 Scholar
Goole
Yorkshire

1881 census - household transcription
Person: SMITH, George W
Address: 40, Back South St, Goole
SMITH, George W Head Married M 31 1850 Blacksmith
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Fanny Wife Married F 22 1859
Goole
Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Sarah E Daughter Single F 4 1877
Goole
Yorkshire

Hi Dea,
I thought that might have been him on the 1851 census as the parents are John and Sarah. I have been thinking that maybe he lied about his age on the first marriage certificate , as he was one month away from his 21st birthday. I've been working on his year of birth as 1850 , from his marriages, but from the census and death certs his year of birth was 1848/9. Do you think his age was wrong on his 1st marriage cert ? If so , then his year of birth was 1850 and 1851 census you found will be right.
Hope this makes sense .

1871 census - household transcription
Person: SMITH, George
Address: New George Street, Sculcoates, Hull

SMITH, George Head M 22 1849 Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, Ann Wife F 26 1845 Yorkshire


There are others in the area. How sure are you this is the correct one?

Marriages Sep 1870 (>99%)
PARKIN Ann Sculcoates 9d 206
Smith George Whitehouse Sculcoates 9d 206

Marriages Jun 1880 (>99%)
Smith George Whitehouse Goole 9c 816
Wareham Fanny Goole 9c 816

Hi LadyKira,
Thanks for looking. You have found both of his marriages, to Ann and Fanny, that's what makes me think the census records I've found are right.

Take a closer look at this one. It is the same address as George and Ann 1871



1861 census -
Address: 65, New George Street, Sculcoates, Kingston Upon Hull
ROBINSON, Thomas Head Married M 47 1814 Provision Dealer
Waterton
Lincolnshire VIEW
ROBINSON, Harriet Wife Married F 44 1817
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
ROBINSON, William Son Unmarried M 19 1842 Iron...
Waterton
Lincolnshire VIEW
SMITH, Charles Son M 16 1845 Joiner
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
SMITH, George Son Unmarried M 14 1847 Cooper
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
ROBINSON, Frederick Son M 8 1853 Scholar
Hull
Yorkshire VIEW
ROBINSON, Walter Son M 6 1855 Scholar
Hull
Yorkshire