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Trying to establish whether the above is a family member. From bmd I see Albert Groombridge married Emily (Margaret) Ludford (registered in Mar. 1868) in Newington. Would be grateful if someone with access to London Parish Records could confirm that Albert's father was a Richard Groombridge, actual date of marriage etc.
Thanks

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Albert Groombridge
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Spouse Name: Emily Ludford
Spouse Age: 18
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Jan 1868
Parish: St Mary, Newington
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Richard Groombridge - occupation - Ivory Finisher
Spouse Father Name: Edward Ludford - occupation - Labourer


Witnesses - Richard Groombridge and Catherine Ludford

Thanks so much. All the information I could have wanted.

Kind regards

You may be able to help with my queries arising from this 1881 census record.

1881 census

GROOMBRIDGE, Eliza Head Widow F 33 1848 Charwoman Walworth
GROOMBRIDGE, Samuel Son Single M 14 1867 Scholar Walworth (Grandfather)
GROOMBRIDGE, Rosey Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar Walworth
GROOMBRIDGE, Nelly Daughter Single F 2 1879 Walworth (Birth date must be wrong. Samuel Duncan Groombridge died 1875 - death registered Sept.
AGER, John Son Single M 0 1881 Walworth (Illegitimate child or census error maybe).

Living at 34 Runham St Newington
St Saviour Southwark Sub District St Peter Walworth Parish Newington

Cannot find a birth record of either Rosey or Nelly. Think they must have been nicknames.

Is this Rosey?

Births Sep 1872
GROOMBRIDGE Rosina Ellen St. Saviour - not shown on 1881 census but shown in Camberwell in 1891 and in St. Pancras in 1901 but not found on 1911.

Have records of marriages as follows:

Marriages Dec 1912
GROOMBRIDGE Rosina P Soper Camberwell
Marriages Dec 1939
GROOMBRIDGE Rosina E Ingram Camberwell. Realise this is not covered by the records available on line and doubtful that this is a possibility anyway.

Cannot find any records that give me a clue as to given name of "Nelly" - this is only record that is in right area before SDG's death.

Births Mar 1875
GROOMBRIDGE Edith Caroline St. Saviour

Marriages Dec 1905
GROOMBRIDGE Edith C Camberwell

If Parish Records also cover deaths are you able to discover whether this is a non surviving child of the couple? Eliza's second name was Harriet. Just to satisfy my curiosity! The couple married 1865.

Births Mar 1870
GROOMBRIDGE Harriet Cordelia St Saviour
Deaths Jun 1871
GROOMBRIDGE Harriet 1 St Saviour

this could be 'Nelly'.


Births Sep 1878 (>99%)
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GROOMBRIDGE Ellen St. Saviour 1d 156



Ellen was often known as Nelly



Only the birth certificate would give an indication of her father, if mother's husband had already died

think you are probably right about 'Rosey'


Births Sep 1872 (>99%)
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GROOMBRIDGE Rosina Ellen St. Saviour 1d 153

Sorry about that - I should have scrolled down further before replying.

I'll look now.

I'm sure your post about Nelly was not showing when I made my first reply. Only saw the one about Rosey- unless I'm going crazy! I had found the Ellen birth but had discounted it because of the date. Note what you say about Birth Certificate.

Would this marriage be in the records - know the 1939 one wouldn't.

Marriages Dec 1912

GROOMBRIDGE Rosina P Soper Camberwell

not yours I think -


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Rosina Priscilla Groombridge
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Spouse Name: Henry Charles Soper
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1912
Parish: Emmanuel, Camberwell
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Groombridge (hairdresser)
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Alfred Soper



Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Emmanuel, Camberwell, Register of marriages, P73/EMM, Item 025

Thanks for the info. Not the right one then. I've come across a John now and then but not sure if he fits into the family. Can remember talk of various family members but not a John so far as I can recall.

Many thanks

Would be grateful if someone with access to London Parish Records would confirm (or otherwise) that the following are the children of:

Samuel Henry Groombridge and Martha Emmeline Eliza (maiden name Bond) and if you wouldn't mind actual birth dates would be greatly appreciated.

GROOMBRIDGE
Martha Emeline E Greenwich reg Jun 1892 Death registered same quarter
Samuel Robert Greenwich reg Jun 1892 ditto

John Henry Greenwich reg 1893 Death registered same quarter

Ernest Alfred reg Jun 1894 Greenwich
William Frederick reg Dec 1895 Greenwich
Florence Amelia reg Jun 1898 Lambeth

Frederick Percy reg Dec 1905 Southwark death reg 1907
Edith Evelyn reg Mar 1907 Southwark death reg 1908

Alfred reg Sep 1900 Camberwell
Elizabeth Frances reg Sep 1902 Greenwich
Thomas reg Sep 1904 Southwark
James reg Sep 1904 Southwark
Percy reg Dec 1908 Southwark

Name: Ernest Alfred Groombridge
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 23 May 1894
Father's Name: Samuel Groombridge
Mother's Name: Martha Groombridge
Parish: Corpus Christi Mission Church, Camberwell
Borough: Southwark
County: London

Name: William Frederick Groombridge
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 30 Oct 1895
Father's Name: Samuel Henry Groombridge
Mother's Name: Martha Groombridge
Parish: Corpus Christi Mission Church, Camberwell
Borough: Southwark
County: London

Name: Alfred Groombridge
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 15 Aug 1900
Father's Name: Samuel Groombridge
Mother's Name: Martha Groombridge
Parish: Corpus Christi Mission Church, Camberwell
Borough: Southwark
County: London

Name: Elizabeth Frances Groombridge
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 6 Aug 1902
Father's Name: Samuel Henry Groombridge
Mother's Name: Martha Emmeline Groombridge
Parish: Corpus Christi Mission Church, Camberwell
Borough: Southwark
County: London

Name: James Groombridge
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 9 Mar 1904
Father's Name: Samuel Groombridge
Mother's Name: Martha Groombridge
Parish: St Mark, Walworth
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

Name: Thomas Groombridge
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 9 Mar 1904
Father's Name: Samuel Groombridge
Mother's Name: Martha Groombridge
Parish: St Mark, Walworth
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

Name: Frederick Percy Groombridge
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 5 Sep 1906
Father's Name: Samuel Groombridge
Mother's Name: Martha Groombridge
Parish: St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

Unfortunately these records only go up to 1906.

Dates of birth:
Ernest Alfred 7 May 1894
William Frederick 13 Oct. 1895
Alfred 29 July 1900
Elizabeth Frances 21 July 1902
James (Not recorded)
Thomas (Not recorded)
Frederick Percy 19 Aug. 1906

Wonderful. Thank you so much. A great help.

Sure there will be some more questions on this thread in the future. Not sure on the dates some of these records go up to. Thought it was 1920 - so please excuse me if I ask for things outside their scope.

Thanks again

Just seen your second posting. Thanks again.

Jeanie

Missed these 2 because father's name was given as Samuel Robert:

Name: Martha Emmeline Eliza Groombridge
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 15 Jun 1892
Father's Name: Samuel Robert Groombridge
Mother's Name: Martha Emmeline Eliza Groombridge
Parish: Christ Church, Camberwell
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex
(No birthdate)

Name: Samuel Robert Groombridge
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 15 Jun 1892
Father's Name: Samuel Robert Groombridge
Mother's Name: Martha Emmeline Eliza Groombridge
Parish: Christ Church, Camberwell
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex
(No birthdate)

There's another entry for Samuel Robert giving birthdate 28 May 1892. Martha Emmeline Eliza is next on list but no birthdate given for her. (Twins?)

Think they were on my original posting with deaths registered in the same quarter. Also a John (name of Martha's father) who also died young. Understandable - there were quite a lot of names. Do know that my grandmother had at least one set of twins that did not survive

Was there a problem with Florence Amelia? or did you just miss it because I asked so much of you. I do feel bad sometimes requesting all this info but as a pensioner I cannot afford one of these subscriptions where you can get hold of everything.

Regards

Sorry, just can't find Florence Amelia. I've tried all kinds of combinations even just using first names. No luck.

OK. Understood. One of the only four of my father's siblings I knew - so I know she existed. Probably some sort of transcription error. I've found name transcribed as Greenbridge, Grumbridge, Grombridge and all sorts!

Thanks for all your efforts.