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Ive tried to find this address/man using the district search on Ancestry but I cant seem to find it

I just want to know if there is a 'John Flanagan' living in Solly St Sheffield Yorkshire on the 1891 census.

I dont know his age but he is the informant of his wifes death so he's an adult at least!

If someone has FMP would you mind looking this up please?

Thanks very much

x

When did his wife die? And how old was she?

Thanks Flick

Susan Flanagan (wife) died 1891 right before the census grrrr. Oooh hang on she was 50yrs I think (certificates at work)

x

Do you have any other information on the address as Solly St is very long.

1891 census transcription details for: 16 Court 5 House, Hollis Croft, Sheffield
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3818 Folio: 71a Page: 33

Reg. District: Sheffield Sub District: North Sheffield
Parish: Sheffield Enum. District: 15
Ecclesiastical District: Hollis Croft City/Municipal Borough: Sheffield
Address: 16 Court 5 House, Hollis Croft, Sheffield
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
FLANAGAN, John Head Married M 52 1839 Law Maker
Ireland
FLANAGAN, Sarah Wife Married F 52 1839
Ireland
FLANAGAN, Thomas Son Single M 32 1859 Labourer
Sheffield
FLANAGAN, Hannah Eliza Daughter Single F 21 1870 Domestic
Sheffield
FLANAGAN, Joseph Grandson Single M 6 1885 Scholar
Sheffield

Moody Blue/Flick I'm telling lies! The certificates at work so this is from memory

John Flanagan is NOT the informant, he's on the certificate as the husband and it just says Solly St which I know is just off Hollis Croft

I have found a John Flanagan living with wife Sarah at Hollis Croft but I dont think its him...unless he is a bigamist or living over the brush!

Sorry about the lies!!

x

Susan in 1881?

Name: Susan Flanagan
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 100 Hollis Croft
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: North Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Susan Flanagan 40
Edward Flanagan 10 born Sheffield
James Flanagan 1

Thanks for the info. 1891 'Law Maker' lol I think that must be 'Saw Maker'!

It's a very long story and I didnt want to confuse things. I have 7 death certifcates for John Flanagan ranging from the 1890's to 1909

Im trying pin down which one is him! Most are in the workhouse so no clue there.

Flick thats Susan on the 81, James is my G Grandfather. I have never found the parents together anywhere

Thanks you two

x

The sons are living separately in 1891.

I suppose Sarah was actually married?

Now theres a good question Flick!

Im starting to think John Flanagan was a very naughty boy lol

x

Living at 100 Hollis Croft 1891 is:

1891 census transcription details for: 100, Hollis Croft, Sheffield
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3818 Folio: 73 Page: 37

Reg. District: Sheffield Sub District: North Sheffield
Parish: Sheffield Enum. District: 15
Ecclesiastical District: Hollis Croft City/Municipal Borough: Sheffield
Address: 100, Hollis Croft, Sheffield
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
PAWSON, Sarah Head Widow F 73 1818 Shop Keeper
Sheffield

You probably have this but...........

1891 census transcription details for: 7, Fishers Yard, Castlegate, Huddersfield
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3569 Folio: 115 Page: 31

Reg. District: Huddersfield Sub District: Huddersfield
Parish: Huddersfield Enum. District: 23
Ecclesiastical District: St Peters City/Municipal Borough: Huddersfield
Address: 7, Fishers Yard, Castlegate, Huddersfield
County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
HANAGAN, Patrick Head Married M 29 1862 Mason Labourer
Ireland
HANAGAN, Kate Wife Married F 28 1863 Charwoman
Sheffield
Yorkshire
HANAGAN, Mary E Daughter F 4 1887
Huddersfield
Yorkshire
HANAGAN, James Son M 3 1888
Huddersfield
Yorkshire
HANAGAN, John Son M 1 1890
Huddersfield
Yorkshire
FLANAGAN, Edward Boarder Single M 20 1871 Mason Labourer
Sheffield
Yorkshire
MURRAY, Red Visitor Single M 25 1866 Mason Labourer
Ireland

The Hanaghan family..Kate (Catherine) is the daughter of John & Susan Flanagan. Patrick the husband was the informant on Susan Flanagans death certificate.......son in-law

The listed Edward is Kates brother.......I told you this was confusing

So this is why I have so many death certs for John as I have a couple from Huddersfield just in case.

Thanks for stying with me on this!

x

So this is your John Flanagan too??


1871 England Census
about John Flanagan
Name: John Flanagan
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
[1835]
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Julia
Gender: Male
Where born: Cavin, Ireland
Civil parish: Sheffield
Ecclesiastical parish: Holliscroft
Town: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: North Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Household schedule number: 109
Household Members:
Name Age
>>>>>>>John Flanagan 35
>>>>>>Julia Flanagan 33 ??????
>>>>>>>>>Catherine Flanagan 8
>>>>>>>>>Edward Flanagan 10 months
Elizabeth Cosgrove 30
Ellen Cosgrove 12
Daniel Cosgrove 5
Edward Gwin 42
Mary Gwin 34
Maria Gwin 10
John F Gwin 3

address 118 or maybe 48 Bates Square


Births Sep 1870
FLANNAGHAN Edward John Sheffield 9c 345

Yes thats what I thought. Maybe Julia was Susan, but I have found a marriage of John Flanagan to a Julia in Sheffield.........

According to a relative, Edward Flanagan was born at that addess above but I dont have the birth cert so Im not sure

I told you this was mad

x

Hang on a minute........

Wheres Susan on 71 census. She has to be somewhere as her children are here???

Hmmmmm

x

Well John Flanagan married to Sarah is still alive in 1901.......


1901 England Census
about John Flanagan
Name: John Flanagan
Age: 65
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Sheffield
Ecclesiastical parish: Sheffield St James
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub-registration district: West Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 118
Household Members:
Name Age
John Flanagan 65 Saw Smith
Sarah Flanagan 61
Joseph Flanagan 16 grandson, Scissor Grinder/Cutter

all down now as born Sheffield!

This is the couple from the 1875 marriage, so DO NOT think it your John & Julia from the 1871 census. Believe this is the marriage that you referred to earlier.

Marriages Mar 1875
Flanagan John Sheffield 9c 654
McNAMARA Julia Sheffield 9c 654


1911 census transcription details for: Court 5/1 White Croft Sheffield
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN27871 RG78PN1595 RD510 SD2 ED4 SN268

Reg. District: Sheffield Sub District: North Sheffield
Parish: Sheffield Enum. District: 4
Address: Court 5/1 White Croft Sheffield
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
FLANAGAN, John Head Married M 65 1846 Builders Labourer Co Leitrem Ireland
FLANAGAN, Julia Wife Married
36 years F 61 1850 Sheffield Co of York

Thanks MB. So the John with Sarah is defo not my John as Susan died in 1891....thank you for making this clear

The Julia on the 1871 census, married to John(?) and has children Catherine and Edward makes me think they were not married as you say the marriage is 1875

I dont have the certs with me today but just checked my tree and I have Susan Flanagan nee Hartin born Cavan

Marriage found on Cavan site Susan Hartin - John Flanagan 16/08/1861 Cavern Ireland

So where the heck is Susan on the 1871 census

Ginny
x

1891 census:

There are 194 households listed on Solly St - this is the only Flanagan family but no John !!

FLANAGAN, Patrick Head Married M 48 1843 Plasterer Ireland
FLANAGAN, Rose Wife Married F 48 1843 Ireland
FLANAGAN, Francis Son Single M 23 1868 Assistant Teacher Elementary School Sheffield
FLANAGAN, Rose Ann Daughter Single F 20 1871 Buffer Sheffield
KENNY, Patrick Nephew Married M 31 1860 Spring Maker Sheffield

Registration District:
Sheffield Sub District:
North Sheffield Enumeration District:
15 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Hollis Croft

123, Solly Street, Sheffield

......................................

This might be the son visiting the Riley family?

RILEY, Mary Head Widow F 60 1831 Coal Dealer Ireland
RILEY, Patrick Son Single M 26 1865 Cab Driver Ireland
FLANAGAN, James Visitor Single M 12 1879 Labourer Sheffield ******
RICHARDSON, John Lodger Single M 18 1873 Silver Stamper Ireland
RILEY, Hugh Lodger Single M 30 1861 Labourer Ireland
FITZSIMONS, William Lodger Widower M 60 1831 Tailor Ireland
HEASTER, Joseph Lodger Single M 18 1873 Stoker Sheffield

1, St Vincent Place, Solly Street, Sheffield

..........................................

I did find, in case you don't already know, that Susan died in the Union Workhouse and was buried on 18th March, 1891
at St. Michael's R.C. Cemetery (St. Patrick's section Grave Ba 36. It may just be coinsidence but all the other people in that grave with her are called Riley?

Dea x