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I think you are correct. I will look at the Middlesex one that my brother in law unearthed thanks

I know this may not be at all relative but i thought it was interesting.

Jimmy (James)Aubrey english actor born 1887 BOLTON Lancs died California 1983 worked with the likes of Charlie Chaplin and Laurel and hardy.

His parents were Robert Aubrey born USA 1962
1891 Robert Aubrey 1862 Gymnast
Sarah H Liverpool 1870.
Charles R born Liverpool 1886
James born Bolton 1889.
Address Poulton Bare and Torrisholme Lancs
1901 Sulcoates Hull
Robert Aubrey 1862 Music Hall Artist
Ida
Charles
James.

1911 Ida Aubrey widow 1863 Lverpool
Charles Robert Aubrey single son born Liverpool 1883.
Address 4,Wood Street East Chorlton
Chorlton upon Medlock
South Manchester

Can't find James/Jimmy Aubrey.

It was the name Aubrey that caught my eye .

Maryb

Sorry for whaffling on but it just might be a connection ,am I completely mad

Mary, I like your line of thinking there! After all it was not uncommon for illegitimate children to be given the father's surname as a middle name - so why not his surname as a christian name??

Cheers for that rootgatherer,glad I'm not the only one.

Maryb

No Mary you're not mad I think you are great!!!
I have been on the search for about 40 years on and off, so any info is a bonus, and any thing is possible. Over the years the family has had connections with Manchester and Liverpool. I will take a look at this family now. Well done

My pleasure Mary - while I always like certificates to back things up, in this case it is not possible but my gut feeling is that you are definately onto something here! Very well done - you're like a dog with a bone on this one! Keep up the good work.

Thanks guys,if you google Jimmy Aubrey and then go to imagess on first page there is a photo of him see if he looks like anybody in your family.
He made over 400 films .

Maryb

There is someone on here with Robert Aubrey not the same one but the owner of the tree has first name of Aubrey,so it does happen

just been reading he was part of fred Carno's troupe and went to New York 1900 Then he settled there permanantly after leaving London 28.8.1908 so does this mean he is out of the running,unless he came back to visit his mum.

1891

Name: Robert Aubrey
Age: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1867
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah H
Gender: Male
Where born: Lorgiana, United States

Civil parish: Poulton Bare and Torrisholme
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Poulton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Heaton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Robert Aubrey 24 Gymnast
Sarah H Aubrey 21 b. Liverpool
Charles R Aubrey 5 b. Liverpool
James Aubrey 2 b. Bolton
George Tuttle 23 Visitor, gynmast b. Liverpool
Henry T Ingorset 20 Visitor, Gymnast b. London

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3463; Folio 93; Page 12; GSU roll: 6098573.


I can't see a marriage between Robert and Sarah nor a death for her - so I wonder if the boys - Charles and James were not registered as Aubrey but using Sarah's maiden surname!

This looks like Robert's later marriage to Ida but she may actually be Ada

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1897 (>99%)
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AUBREY Robert Birmingham 6d 221
Newberry Ada Florence Birmingham 6d 221
Newbery Ada Florence Birmingham 6d 221

Original view of 1911 Ida Aubrey married 28years widow 2 children to marriage and 2 alive still.

So Robert married Ida or Sarah H 1883,but there again it was son Charles Robert Aubrey who signed the census.

Maryb

You can see James Aubrey's emigration on Ellis Island. He did indeed go in 1908. He went from London and give a friend's name and address as next of kin. More details on the Ship's manifesto.

I still can't see a birth at the correct time and in the correct place for either Charles or James under the surname Aubrey.

Well done everyone, such a lot of info. You really have the "bit between the teeth" I will look at the photo's. I have looked at the info on line about Jimmy Aubrey, and he is described as 5ft 6" and its very funny cos my dad was not very tall infact he was only 5ft 2" !!
Thanks Eileen

I have looked at the pics can't honestly say I recognise any one in them. I wonder if any of his descendants are still in the uk. I will put out a search. I will catch up with you all later, must get the evening meal on the go. Ha

Hi all when you have time to spare can you check the 1911 census Charles Aubrey(1883) is on it,but what was his occupation. Should I be looking where he was in 1914.
I have checked out James(Jimmy) what a high flyer he was. When he died he was living in a very expensive area in Hollywood USA, where all the celebs of past and present live. He was a real celeb.

Hi Eileen,Charles was in 1911 a porter of furniture.

Maryb

Thanks Mary
My goodness we have gone from one extreme to another

Hi all could someone look at 1871 census for a Margaret Hewitt dob 1823 she is married to Thomas Ashall they married in 1869 I am trying to find out Margaret's maiden name or any prev. because this looks like a second marriage for both, as there are children with both surnames thanks. I need to sign off now so will catch up later

1871

Name: Margt Ashall
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thos
Gender: Female
Where born: Orwell, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Eccleston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: St Helen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 310
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Ashall 42
Margt Ashall 48
Willm Ashall 20
Robert Ashall 16
Annie Hewitt 16
John Hewitt 12
Ellen Hewitt 10


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 3864; Folio: 67; Page: 72; GSU roll: 841936.



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Marriages Mar 1869 (>99%)
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Ashall Thomas Prescot 8b 699
Hewitt Margaret Prescott 8b 699

I can't find her in 1861 but could this be her in 1851??

Name: Margaret Hewit
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Orret, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Eccleston
Ecclesiastical parish: Eccleston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Farnworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 4d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 83
Household Members: Name Age
James Hewit 31 Agric. Lab.
Margaret Hewit 28
John Hewit 9
Richard Hewit 5
Margret Hewit 2
Mary Hewit 10 Mo

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2194; Folio: 530; Page: 25; GSU roll: 87203.



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Marriages Mar 1841 (>99%)
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Borton Margaret Prescot 20 552
Hewitt James Prescot 20 552

Good Morning All
A little poser for you please.
On 1901 census I have John Hewitt age 77 dob 1825 he is a jobbing gardner
His Wife Jane (? maiden name) dob 1829 age 72 they are living at 57 Gwydir Street Toxteth Liverpool. Living with them is thier daughter Ellen Hewitt dob1861 she is 40 years old single and a laundress.
then there is Jessie Hewitt Grandaughter age 19 dob 1882 she is a teacher I presume she is John and Jane's granddaughter. Who's child might she be. Also My "Edith Hewitt" has a birth year around the same time 1882. Could they be twins??? or sisters?
Also John and Jane's background who are their children etc. Off I go again, another branch of the family is emerging. There are so many children on my tree all with the same christian names. No wonder im'e confused. thanks for your help regards Eileen