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Colin
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13 Jun 2014 23:57 |
Hi Cherilyn, I am still trying to trace a Kenneth William Harding. It is believed he hitch hiked to Australia from England in 1961/2. Was found as a stowaway on the ship Oriana and put ashore at Fremantle He served four weeks in Fremantle Prison and on release, he was allowed to stay in Australia. He boarded that ship in Syr Lanka. We have heard that he was on the ER in Perth in 1982. As yet, we can find no information to substantiate this or anything regarding marital or death. Would you please take a look, any info would be welcome. Many thanks for any help. Colin.
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jax
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14 Jun 2014 00:53 |
Colins thread on Living relatives
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1290137
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Cherilyn
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19 Jun 2014 05:01 |
Colin if you think Kenneth might still be in WA, there is one KW Harding (and wife) listed at http://www.whitepages.com.au/ (phone directory). Worth a try.
PS Thanks jax. Have also posted a reply on that (very long) thread
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ElizabethK
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22 Jun 2014 13:53 |
Hi Cherilyn
Mark Light was transported to Van Diemans Land on the Waterloo 18 November 1834 (age 19) is there anyway of finding out what eventually happened to him ?
I do not have Worldwide Ancestry :-)
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Cherilyn
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24 Jun 2014 10:43 |
Hi Elizabeth, I don't have Tas BDM but can't see him in permission to marry or departures from Tas.
Sorry :-(
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ElizabethK
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24 Jun 2014 13:28 |
Thanks Cherilyn-it was a long-shot anyway :-)
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Margaret
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7 Jul 2014 11:56 |
Hi Cherilyn - I wonder if you could help. I have a Joseph Corby who travelled with wife Mabel and small sons Joseph and Sidney on the Barrapool departing London 25 Februaury 1926 bound for Sydney. That is the last I have of them although I am given to understand that at some point - heaven knows when - they lived in Melbourne. Are you able to help with information on whether they had more children and/or where they lived, whether any of them were in the Armed Forces - generally what happened to them ? Many thanks for any help you may be able to give.
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Gai
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7 Jul 2014 12:08 |
For reference Margaret's thread on the Corby family
http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1342304
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Edna
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22 Jul 2014 23:04 |
searching for Louisa Ellen boon nee Beer who married Albert Boon. Her parents are Johnathan Boon and Susan Benham . Thank you Regards Edna Wiseman nee Boon
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Cherilyn
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25 Jul 2014 02:34 |
Hi Edna
Sorry I have been on holidays
I am thinking Jonathon & Susan Boon were Albert's parents, not Louisa's??
Is this her birth in Qld?
1862/C371 Louisa Ellen Beer [father] John [mother] Caroline Bullock
matches this Qld death:
1926/C2720 Louisa Ellen Boon [father] John Augustus Beer [mother] Caroline Bullock
Her parents UK marriage:
Marriages Sep 1855 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beer / John Augustus / Plymouth / 5b / 348 BULLOCK / Caroline / Plymouth / 5b / 348
They were in Qld by 1862, when Louisa was born. Other siblings born in Qld: Evangelina Elvina b. 1865, d. 1950 Frederick Francis b. 1867, d. 1966! Emmeline b. 1871, d. 1872 Edith Ann b. 1875, d. 1944 as BAILEY (marriage not found in Qld but died in Esk) Lily Gertrude b. 1878, m. Samuel Tasman ROBSON 1901 as Lillie Gertie, d. 1957 as Lillian Gertrude ROBSON
A child named Almeda died in 1865, possibly born elsewhere. There was also a sister named Augusta Theresa who died in 1913 as JORGENSEN (married Hans JORGENSEN in 1887).
According to a post online from some time ago, Evangelina married as Eva BEER to James BOON in 1888 (reg C624) - possibly a brother of Albert BOON who married her older sister in 1885?!
Her death: 1950/C3976 Eva Boon [father] John Beer [mother] Caroline Bullock
Esk Cemetery Boon, Eva, bur. 15 Sep 1950, age: 85yr, W E Hawkins FH, Grave #932 Boon, James, bur. 1 Aug 1941, age: 83yr, W E Hawkins FH, Grave #764
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Cherilyn
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25 Jul 2014 06:19 |
This confirms James was a brother of Albert, going by the names you gave in your post:
1941/C3055 James Boon [father] Jonathan [mother] Susan Benom
James lived and died in Esk, Qld.
Albert's death: 1934/B24836 Albert Boon [father] Jonathan [mother] Susan Benham
There was another brother named George Edward who died in 1931.
Mother Susan died in 1895:
1895/C1010 Susan Boon [father] William Benham [mother] Sarah Ling
Death for a Jonathan BOON, son of Elisha BOON, in Qld in 1913 (C3248).
UK marriage:
Marriages Jun 1856 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BENHAM / Susan / Plomesgate / 4a / 941 BOON / Jonathan / Plomesgate / 4a / 941
Jonathan & Susan arrived in Qld in 1887, both aged 50, aboard 'Merkara'. It appears the brothers came separately - James in 1883 aged 23 and Albert in 1882 aged 21. Can't see George, unless he in incorrectly listed as George BOOR (arrived 1887 aged 23, same ship as his parents but a different voyage). See http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/Researchers/Indexes/Immigration/Pages/Immigration1848.aspx
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ElizabethK
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29 Jul 2014 09:18 |
nudge for Woolbags
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Dolly
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29 Jul 2014 09:58 |
Hi Cherilyn, I wonder if you can look up the Death and Marriage of my cousin. He is Edmund Maurice Heavens, he was born in Melbourne 11th September 1933, as far as I know the family had only lived in the Glen Waverley area, he died in November 1980. I also want to know his wifes name. I know she went down to Tazmania with I think 2 children they had. Is it possible to get the registration as I want to order a death cert or do you even know if its possible to order death certs from abroad? Also is it possible for any info on an Edmund Charles (Sidney ?) Heavens dob 19/06/1904 born Guildford, England. He left for Australia in his early 20s. I wanted to know where he left from and what port he arrived at.
Many thanks in advance for any help you can give me.
I have just had this come up on Ancestry hints
Honolulu, Hawaii, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1900-1959 Record
Immigration & Travel
Name: Edmund Chas Heavens Birth: year Arrival: dd mm year in location Departure: location
But unfortunately I don't have world wide Ancestry :-|
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MarieCeleste
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29 Jul 2014 22:37 |
Hello Dolly (have I heard that somewhere before?) I don't think Cherilyn will mind if I jump in with the non Australia part of your request.
This is the record you refer to for Edmund Chas Heavens:
Honolulu, Hawaii, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1900-1959 Name: Edmund Chas Heavens Age: 15 Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1904 Port of Departure: New York Ship: Jason Port of Arrival: Honolulu, Hawaii Arrival Date: 20 May 1919 Race: British (English)
He was a member of the crew, rating O/S.He joined the ship 20 Jan 1919 at Avonmouth and he had a heart tattooed on his right forearm.
This must have been the first leg of the journey:
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Edmund Chas Heavens Arrival Date: 21 Mar 1919 Birth Date: abt 1904 Age: 15 Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: English Port of Departure: Gibraltar Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Jason
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MarieCeleste
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29 Jul 2014 22:43 |
The "S" didn't stand for Sidney:
Merchant Seamen Transcription First name(s) EDMUND CHARLES STEER Last name Heavens Age - Birth year 1903 Birth day 19 Birth month June Birth place Guildford Birth county Surrey Place GUILDFORD Discharge number - Identity certificate number 349561 Card type CR10 Date range 1918-1921 Series BT350
I'm sending you the image of his card as it has a lovely clear photograph of him.
Cherilyn may be able to give you more info on this:
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 Name: Edmund Charles Heavens Death Place: Malvern, Victoria Age: 76 Father's Name: Walter Mother's name: Jessie Registration Year: 1980 Registration Place: Victoria Registration Number: 02133 Estimated birth year: abt 1904
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Dolly
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30 Jul 2014 22:39 |
Marie, Thank you for all that fantasticm info. Also the other bit you sent me. Thats was invaluable to my hunting. I now know alot more about him. Many Thanks. Dolly x
If by chance you do have a spare bit of time,( I was going to say 5 minutes lol but that would be rediculous) Can you possibly look up the other Oz thing I wanted below?.
Edmund Maurice Heavens, he was born in Melbourne 11th September 1933, mothers maiden name was Heavens. As far as I know the family had only lived in the Glen Waverley area of Melbourne, he died in November 1980. I also want to know his wifes name. I know she went down to Tazmania with I think 2 children they had.
Cheers for now, Dolly x
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Cherilyn
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31 Jul 2014 09:07 |
Thanks MC :)
Hm Dolly so both Edmund HEAVENS died in 1980 in Victoria?
From Ryerson Index - http://ryersonindex.net/search.php
HEAVENS Edmund Charles (Ted) Death notice 02JAN1980 Death at Cabrini Hospital, formerly of Heidelberg Heidelberg Leader 23JAN1980
The problem here is privacy laws mean no public access to the marriages in the period Edmund Maurice would have wed.
There is this engagement notice from NLA Trove: The Argus, Saturday 8 January 1955 OWEN-HEAVENS.-The engagement ls announced of Alma, younger daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Owen, of Wordsworth ave., Heidelberg West, to Edmund, only son of Mr. and Mrs. Heavens, of Greensborough.
Note this is only an engagement so the marriage may not have proceeded.
Still looking...
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Cherilyn
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31 Jul 2014 09:11 |
Hi Dolly
Ok so here is Chas Maurice's death:
Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985 Surname: HEAVENS Given Names: Edmund Maurice Father: Edmund Charles Mother: Sylvia Death Place: HEID Age: 48 Year: 1980 Reg Number: 26238 Event: D
His death certificate will tell you his wife's name, when and where they married and any children they had (names and ages in 1980). You can order from https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage
I wonder if this is his mum's death? She was in the same area as the other Edmund and place name matches the engagement notice above too:
HEAVENS Sylvia May Death notice 05SEP1976 Death late of Greensborough Heidelberg Leader 08SEP1976
Her death reg (22553) shows her as age 68, no father's name and mother as Sylvia OWEN!!! Very odd.
The only other HEAVENS death is a Doris Mary Grace HEAVENS, daughter of Jas Francis LUFFE and Mary Grace DURHAM, who died in 1929 aged only 24 - also died in Heidelberg. Must be a connection.
EDIT - found Doris' birth as CUFFE - in 1904 in Brunswick, Victoria (reg 15932), parents as above.
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Cherilyn
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31 Jul 2014 09:32 |
OK so Doris was Edmund Chas HEAVENS wife - sad she died so young
Digger - Marriage Index. Victoria 1921-1942 Family Name: CUFFE Given Name: Doris Mary Spouse Family Name: HEAVENS Spouse Given Name: Edmund Chas Registration Year: 1927 Registration Number: 4936 Event: M
and Sylvia was his 2nd wife
Digger - Marriage Index. Victoria 1921-1942 Family Name: HEAVENS Given Name: Edward Charles Spouse Family Name: EDWARDS Spouse Given Name: Sylvia May Registration Year: 1930 Registration Number: 3495 Event: M
PS I know this says Edward Chas but there were really only these HEAVENS in Victoria so I do believe it is the same person. Plus they lived and died in the same area as per my earlier posts. Oddly now there are none in Victoria, most live in Western Australia (where I am!) and a few in NSW. None in Tasmania either.
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Cherilyn
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31 Jul 2014 09:50 |
This MAY be Sylvia's first marriage - but no death found for husband 1927-30:
Family Name: EDWARDS Given Name: Alex Wm Chas Spouse Family Name: MCLEISH Spouse Given Name: Sylvia May Registration Year: 1927 Registration Number: 5102 Event: M
Fits with this birth, which fits her age at death:
Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913 Surname: MCLEISH Given Names: Sylvia May Event: B Father: Jas Jno Pritcha Mother: Annie Flor COX Birth Place: MELBOURNE SOUTH Year: 1908 Reg. Number: 21029
It is quite possible the informant on her death has mixed up some surnames I'd say!
Edmund Chas & Sylvia are certainly indicated on Edmund Maurice's death as his parents and the timing fits too (they married in 1930). Perhaps you knew all this tho.
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