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Haha, I assure you Rugby is in Warwickshire - I've been living there for 18 years! Looks like Ancestry messed up a bit there. I did have a look on Ancestry.com last time I went to the library, but I must have only looked in Warwickshire.

That's him - thanks alot for all your time, it really has helped. You are a star!!!

William Young married Jessie Sarah Shepard 1901 J/A/S 1d 1565 in Camberwell Greater London Surrey .

Could these be yours?

Maryb

Yes, from the information on the census they look like my great great grandparents.

It's intriguing about William Young being born at sea, do you have any ideas why? Possibly immigrants?

Thanks again!
Lloyd

The marriage that Mary found:-

William Young
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Spouse Name: Jessie Sarah Shepherd
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Jul 1901
Parish: Saint Philip The Apostle, Camberwell
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Thomas Young
Spouse Father Name: Edward Shepherd


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Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Philip The Apostle, Camberwell, Register of marriages, P73/PHI, Item 013



Address (for both) is 16 Villette Place, Trafalgar Road.

William and his father - labourers.
Jessie's father - bootmaker.

William's father - deceased.

Jill

William and Jessie Shepherd would be my candidates as well,but PLEASE get Henry's birth certificate first!!

Just a note of caution on William's age on the 1911...it might not be 38. It's pretty smudged or written over. The first number is a 3,but I'm not positive about the last one.

Maureen

Thanks alot!

Yes, I'll definately confirm Henry's date of birth when I order his certificate before I put anything down on the family tree. I'll also have a look into William's birth at sea.

Lloyd

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viv

So now we look for William young 1876ish?

Hi all,

I've got Henry's birth certificate and confirmed that those are his parent. I also have his parent's marriage certificate.

I'm now trying to find more about William Young, who was listed on the 1911 census as 'born at sea' in around 1876 (give or take a year). I have his marriage certificate, and all I know is his father was called Thomas Young and he was deceased when they got married.

Many Thanks!
Lloyd

1901 for Jessie ,so William shouldnt be too far away.

Address:
16, Villette Place, Camberwell

SHEPHERD, Edward Head Married M 68 1833 Shoemaker
Norwich
SHEPHERD, Eliza Wife Married F 63 1838
Southwark
London
SHEPHERD, William Son Single M 34 1867 Shoemaker
Camberwell
SHEPHERD, Jessie Daughter Single F 24 1877 Presser (Dress)
Camberwell
SHEPHERD, Albert Son Single M 22 1879 Chocolate Maker
Camberwell

Thanks alot!

I have looked on Ancestry.com, but couldn't find them. Perhaps I'll have another (more thorough) look. The problem is, I only have William's name and his father's name, and I'm not sure when his father died (so it may only be William on the census, and 'William Young' isn't exactly a rare name).

I will search more tomorrow Lloyd,if nobody else comes up with anything,but I truly need to go for my beauty sleep now..

If you are in Britain you must work nights or be an insomniac !

Oh yes,you live Rugby way...

Haha, yes even I'm getting tired now - if I have chance tomorrow I'll pop into the library and have a further look on ancestry.com at the censuses.

As he says on 1911 that he was born "at sea" ,
(and upon further inspection of that original his age is very blurred so I am going with his 1876 age on marriage,)
As his father was a labourer I think they may have come from Ireland,but wherever they came from I would think they would be in England on 1881 census.
Struggling here but I will soldier on !
viv

Thanks, and I'll see if I can find him on any censuses on Ancestry.com. They may have come from Ireland, but the other side of my family is Northern Irish and so I would have thought Henry (Henry's daughter-in-law's parents were Northern Irish) would have said if his family were Irish. Although maybe Henry didn't know.

you can search 1881 free on all sites,Ancestry,Find my Past and Family search.

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

Thanks alot, there are quite a few William Youngs with a father named Thomas Young around the London area so unfortunately I'm not sure which one (if any) is my ancestor. I have however found Jessie Shepherds family on there.

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881BR_774517&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=99

Well I give up !

And it would seem to me that so do the others as not a peep has been heard from them,deserting rats that they are !>>;:))

Uh,yes,that'd be me for one!! Sorry!!! I'm out of ideas on this one. Followed a few families around but no good.

Maureen

This one must be hard cos I offered it out to a certain other ,and she hasnt taken up the gauntlet either.!