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27 Jun 2020 13:23 |
Leonard George Boxall in the 1911 England Census Name: Leonard George Boxall Age in 1911: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1901 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Brentwood, Essex Civil Parish: Shenfield County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Hawkwood, Shenfield Rd, Brentwood,, Essex Occupation: At school Registration district: Billericay Registration District Number: 193 Sub-registration district: Brentwood ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Piece: 10010 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Boxall 48 Mary Boxall 46 Florence Martha Boxall 21 Elsie Mary Boxall 16 Leonard George Boxall 10 Frank Douglas Sedgley Chaundy 25
Parents' marriage:
Marriages Dec 1888 (>99%) BOXALL Alfred Ludlow 6a 1131 MALPASS Mary Ludlow 6a 1131
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27 Jun 2020 13:23 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census High Road Rustic Terrace, Shenfield, Billericay, Essex, England
Alfred Boxall Head Married Male 38 1863 Gardener Domestic Bermondsey, Surrey, England Mary Boxall Wife Married Female 36 1865 - Shropshire, England Florence M Boxall Daughter - Female 11 1890 - Shropshire, England Cyril A Boxall Son - Male 9 1892 - Brentwood, Essex, England Elsie M Boxall Daughter - Female 6 1895 - Brentwood, Essex, England Leonard G Boxall Son - Male 0 1901 - Brentwood, Essex, England
1911 Census For England & Wales Hawkwood Shenfield Road Brentwood Essex, Shenfield, Essex, England
Alfred Boxall Head Married Male 48 1863 Gardener Domestic Bermondsey Mary Boxall Wife Married Female 46 1865 - Cla Hill Shropshire Florence Martha Boxall Daughter Single Female 21 1890 School Teacher Cla Hill Shropshire Elsie Mary Boxall Daughter Single Female 16 1895 - Brentwood Essex Leonard George Boxall Son - Male 10 1901 At School Brentwood Essex Frank Douglas Sedgley Chaundy Boarder Single Male 25 1886 Corn Merchant's Manager Leytonstone London
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27 Jun 2020 13:25 |
First name(s) EVELYN MARJORIE Last name VIDOVIC Gender Female Birth day 13 Birth month 5 Birth year 1912 Age - Death quarter 1 Death year 2004 District Bristol District number 3011G Register number G29C Entry number 118
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27 Jun 2020 13:29 |
Marriages Mar 1950 (>99%) Boxall Leonard G Palmer Bathavon 7c 124 Palmer Winefride Boxall Bathavon 7c 124
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27 Jun 2020 13:45 |
Name: Agnes Fanny Taylor Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 3 Apr 1904 Baptism Place: Upton St Leonard, Gloucestershire, England Father: Thomas Taylor Mother: Elizabeth Taylor
TAYLOR Agnes Fanny (MMN) BROWN 1903 Gloucester Gloucester, South Hamlet 80 371
1911 Census For England & Wales 13 Victoria Road Longford, Longford, Gloucestershire, England Thomas Taylor Head Married Male 44 1867 Farm Bailiff Brockworth Glos Elizabeth Taylor Wife - Female 43 1868 - Upton St Leonards Glo Thomas James Victor Taylor Son Single Male 19 1892 Drapers Assistant Leckhampton Glo Mary Elizabeth Taylor Daughter Single Female 17 1894 Domestic Servant Upton St Leonards Alice Taylor Daughter Single Female 15 1896 Domestic Servant Upton St Leonards Florence May Taylor Daughter - Female 13 1898 Domestic Servant Upton St Leonards Elsie Annie Taylor Daughter - Female 12 1899 School Upton St Leonards Albert Frank Taylor Son - Male 10 1901 School Upton St Leonards Agnes Fanny Taylor Daughter - Female 7 1904 School Upton St Leonards Adelaide Emily Taylor Daughter - Female 5 1906 School Sandhurst Glo Frances Lucy Taylor Daughter - Female 3 1908 - Sandhurst Glo
Name: Thomas James Victor Taylor Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 22 May 1892 Baptism Place: Leckhampton, St Peter, Gloucestershire, England Father: Thomas Taylor Mother: Elizabeth Taylor
Name: Thomas James Victor Taylor Death Date: 1 Apr 1946 Death Place: Gloucestershire, Gloucester, England Probate Date: 26 Jun 1946 Probate Registry: Gloucester, England
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27 Jun 2020 13:48 |
Not - apparently - the one who married Cook
LANG, EVELYN MAY TURNER GRO Reference: 1913 M Quarter in CHESTERFIELD Volume 07B Page 1399
BUT........ there is no birth for an Evelyn Marjorie Lang in England/Wales, even allowing for the discrepancy in birth year
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27 Jun 2020 14:09 |
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75 Duke Street, Salford C.B., Lancashire, England Catherine Palmer 21 Sep 1864 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 92 1 Annie Priestley (Palmer) 23 Jan 1898 Female Rainproof Machinist Single 92 2 Winifred Boxall (Palmer) 28 Feb 1919 Female Machinist Sewing Single 92 3 Teresa Kelly 29 Feb 1868 Female Book Binder Single 92 4 Catherine Mahon 02 Feb 1890 Female Barrage Balloon Maker Single 92 5
PALMER, WINIFRED - No MMN recorded. (Illegitimate) GRO Reference: 1919 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 118
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27 Jun 2020 15:42 |
Do you actually have the 1931 birth cert?
If so, is there a second forename given for the child's mother?
If we have to wait another 11 years for feedback............I doubt I'll be around ;-) ;-) ;-)
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27 Jun 2020 15:52 |
There's so little to go on.
If your guess at Evelyn's YOB is correct (c1905-15), Sue, then the 1913 birth could perhaps be the right one.
You said, "Evelyn's middle name I believe was Mary, Jean was sometimes referred to as Jean Mary." So her middle name wasn't definitely Mary.
"May" is pretty close. My mother was born Mary, but always known as May.
You also said, "As far as I know, Evelyn did marry after Jean's birth." So that's not definite either.
You say Jean was sometimes referred to as Jean Mary. By whom? When? If she was adopted by the Boxalls, then there's no reason why anything they might have called her had anything to do with her mother.
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Evelyn M Lang in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Evelyn M Lang Gender: Female Marital status: Single Birth Date: 30 Oct 1911 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 15 Mrd (?) Qrs, Booth Road Residence Place: Hendon, Middlesex, England Occupation: Administrative Section Leader Schedule Number: 179 Sub Schedule Number: 1 OVSPI: Inmate Enumeration District: BKBT Household Members: Name Evelyn M Lang Amy A Dresdale-Linth Margaret C Farrell Tegwedd Johnson Doris C Gabelle
And more pages and pages of women, mostly single. This was WAAF quarters at the RAF station at Hendon Aerodrome.
https://www.pastscape.org.uk/hob.aspx?hob_id=1150915
There is no Evelyn M Lang birth registered at the end of 1911 or start of 1912 - but if the DOB is one year out in 1939, it would fit that 1913 birth.
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27 Jun 2020 16:50 |
THIS is the one born in Chesterfield district
Marriages Sep 1935 (>99%) Lang Evelyn M Jenkinson Doncaster 9c 2125 Jenkinson Clifford Lang Doncaster 9c 2125
1939 37 Carr Road, Doncaster R.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England Evelyn M Jenkinson 02 Jan 1913 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 62 1 1 closed record
First name(s) EVELYN MAY***************************** Last name JENKINSON Gender Female Birth day 2 Birth month 1 Birth year 1913 Age - Death quarter 1 Death year 1999 District Sheffield District number 0481D Register number D59A Entry number 015 Date of registration mm/yy 0299
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27 Jun 2020 17:26 |
Weston's near enough to Bristol
Marriages Dec 1939 (>99%) Bidwell Henry L Lang Weston 5c 1853 Lang Evelyn Bidwell Weston 5c 1853
NO...........too young
Evelyn Bidwell (Lang) 01 May 1917 Female Daily Domestic Single 115 4
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27 Jun 2020 17:51 |
We need Sue to come back with exact info from the birth cert.
The middle name beginning with M may be a complete red herring.
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27 Jun 2020 18:03 |
Not sure why people have been focusing on Evelyn Lang with a second forename. Unless the OP comes back to say that she gave a second forename when she registered the birth, there’s no reason to think she had one.
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27 Jun 2020 19:34 |
possibly her but >?
matches given birth date of Eveliyn M Vidovic.
Name: Eva Marjory Lang Birth Date: 13 May 1912 Baptism Date: 21 Jul 1912 Baptism Place: Swindon, Christchurch with St Mary, Wiltshire, England Parish as it Appears: Swindon Search Photos: Search for 'Swindon, Christchurch with St Mary' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: Percival Arthur Lang Mother: Gertrude Jane Lang
Percival was a fitter,.
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27 Jun 2020 19:39 |
View1939 England and Wales Register View/Add Alternative Info Report a problem Name: Percival A Lana [Percival A Lang ] Gender: Male Marital status: Widow Birth Date: 28 Dec 1891 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 103 Beechen Drive Residence Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Occupation: Tool Setter Heavy Worker Schedule Number: 235 Sub Schedule Number: 2 Enumeration District: OAQC Registration district: 319/5 Household Members: Name Dennis C F Masters Percival A Lana This record is officially closed. Nancy E Lang Kathleen M Lang Edith G Masters Olive W Masters Kenneth J Masters.
1911. Percival Lang Age in 1911: 21 Estimated birth year: abt 1890 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Cadbury, Somerset, England Civil Parish: Swindon Search Photos: Search for 'Swindon' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: 83 Lansdown Rd, Swindon, Wilts Marital status: Married Occupation: Fitter And Turner Mechanical Registration district: Swindon Registration District Number: 240 Sub-registration district: Swindon ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Piece: 11803 Household Members: Name Age Percival Lang 21 Gertrude Lang 22 Eliza Lang 52
His death,
ViewEngland & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Order death certificate for Percival A Lang Add or update information Report a problem Name: Percival A Lang Death Age: 73 Birth Date: abt 1892 Registration Date: Apr 1965 [May 1965] [Jun 1965] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Bristol Inferred County: Gloucestershire Volume: 7b Page: 141
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27 Jun 2020 19:50 |
That’s the who married Cook and Vidovic . Well done for finding the birth
Unless Sue comes back with info from the 1931 birth cert, we’re still just guessing
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27 Jun 2020 20:33 |
Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%) Hunt Gertrude J Swindon 5a 80. Lang Percival A Swindon 5a 80.
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Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Mar 1931 (>99%) Lang Gertrude J 39 Bristol 6a 254..
,.Births Sep 1898 (>99%) Hunt Gertrude Joan Hollingbourn 2a 800
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View1901 England Census View blank form Add or update information Report a problem Name: Gertrude Joan Hunt Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1899 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: Harry Hunt Mother: Mary Ellen Hunt Birth Place: Detling, Kent, England Civil Parish: Detling Search Photos: Search for 'Detling' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: Detling St Martin Town: Detling County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Hollingbourn Sub-registration district: Hollingbourn ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 770 Folio: 82 Page Number: 10 Household schedule number: 54 Household Members: Name Age Harry Hunt 25 Mary Ellen Hunt 29 Gertrude Joan Hunt 2 Norah Gladys Ellen Hunt 11/12
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27 Jun 2020 21:05 |
Let's hope the birth cert gives some useful information!
If it just says her name was Evelyn Lang, it's not much help. That could mean that either she didn't give her middle name, or that she's a different person.
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28 Jun 2020 07:39 |
Lang tree on ancestry has the forenamed Eva/Evalyn. Lang death as 2004.also has same named parents.
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28 Jun 2020 09:57 |
The tree on Ancestry obviously has the info as found, but that’s no proof that it’s the woman who gave birth to Jean in 1931.
The only hope is that there is a second forename for the mother on the birth cert, or that the address and her occupation are matched by the info about the woman who married Cook in Bristol, if Sue gets that cert.
We now wait for Sue to return..........................
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