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I am trying to find where my grandfather was in 1911 because he was born in Norwich and was still at home in the 1901 census age 20 but then he met my grandmother who was from Swansea S.Wales and they moved down to Fishguard in West Wales where my father was born in 1915. His full name was Harry William Hall born Norwich 8 Jan 1881 and died Fishguard, West Wales 10 Sept 1941,I have both birth and death certs, his fathers name was also Harry William Hall born 1858 died 1899 mothers name Elizabeth Leach born 1862. In the 1901 census their address was 8 Garden St Norwich his siblings were Alice 5 Emily 8 Fred 10 Gertrude 12 Milly 3 William 18 ... Harry juniors wife (my g mother) name was Lucy Thorne born 1887 in Swansea S.Wales, I also have birth and death certs for Lucy.
I would be grateful if someone could find him as he seems to have travelled right across the UK from east to west between 1901-1915.

1911 census is a pay one
u can view but cant see images unless u pay

Michael, have you seen Jonesey's threads on Tips Board? Lots of advice for searching 1911. You can find loads without spending a thing if you do it right!
Havinf said that. I can't actually locate him yet!
Jan

Best I can find so far:

HALL HARRY M 1881 30 Flegg Norfolk

But I doubt it's him - these are the other occupants:

HALL HANNAH F 1849 62 Flegg Norfolk
HALL JACK M 1861 50 Flegg Norfolk
HALL ROBERT M 1824 87 Flegg Norfolk
HALL RUBY F 1895 16 Flegg Norfolk
HALL SUSANA F 1860 51 Flegg Norfolk

Hi Janet--- No I am afraid I hadnt seen Joneseys tips thanks for that some good tips there I shall have to give it another go but I dont seem to be getting anywhere.
The family that you came up with in the 1881 is the wrong one as I have the family details in 1891 and they dont correspond.
I also have the family details in the 1911 four of the children were still at home but Harry was not included.

Thanks

Hi,

You say that your grandmother was from Swansea and they moved to Fishguard.

Where and when did they marry please?

Dea x

Hi Dea--- This was a mystery as it only came to light after they had both died that they werent married and no one knew until the family were sorting out their finances etc.

Thanks

What was your geandmother's name? Hopefully a marriage can be found, which might help (might!)
Jan

What are the details you have on his family in 1911 please?

Dea x

Sorry about the delay in replying folks but we have just had an addition to the family a grandson which makes me a grandad!!!!!!

Janet ---My grandmothers name was Lucy May Thorne born Swansea April 22 1887

Dea---- The family details for 1911 are
ELIZABETH HALL Head 50
GERTRUDE HALL 22 Daughter
FRED B HALL Son 20
EMILY HALL Daughter 18
ALICE HALL Daughter 15
MILLY HALL Daughter 13
Thomas Harper Lodger 60

Hope this helps

Thanks
Michael

Congratulation Grandad Michael.

They bring joy, frustration and exhaustion!!

I have had my little grand-daughter for the day - off school - very poorly and I am EXHAUSTED !!!

Will look at this for you in the morning when my brain is not quite not so 'dead'.

Dea x

Thanks Dea but tomorrow I will be in work between 11am and 9pm so I wont be able to reply between these times, poor old grandad still got to work.

Look forward to hearing from you
Michael

1891

Harry Hall
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Norwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael at Thorne
Town: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: Conisford
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Hall 33
Elizabeth Hall 31
Harry Hall 10
William Hall 8
Bessy Hall 6
Gertrude Hall 2
Berty Hall 11/12
Elizabeth Seach 60

1901

Harry Hall
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England

Civil parish: Norwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael at Thorn
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: BAKER

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Norwich
Sub-registration district: East Wymer
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Hall 39
Harry Hall 20
William Hall 18
Gertrude Hall 12
Fredrick Hall 10
Emily Hall 8
Alice Hall 5
Milly Hall 3
Elizabeth Leach 71
Bessie Meachen 17
George Meachen 26
George Meachen 4 months

Lucy May Thorne
Age in 1901: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Rachel
Gender: Female
Where born: Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil parish: Builth
Ecclesiastical parish: Builth St Mary
Town: Builth
County/Island: Breconshire
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Builth
Sub-registration district: Builth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Rachel Thorne 48
Henry Thorne 16
Lucy May Thorne 14

Births Jun 1887 (>99%)
Thorne Lucy May Swansea 11a 821

Thanks VICCIwasVictoria but I have already got this information so I am trying to find where Harry was in the 1911 census

Thanks anyway
Michael

Can you please tell us when Harry Hall married Lucy Thorne, cos so far I can't find such a marriage.

Ah, forget that, I have just absorbed that they didn't marry.

Well, I have not yet found your Harry William, nor Lucy May on 1911.

However, I 'may' have found a reason for them not marrying - Could he have been married already???

Marriage 1902:

Harry William Hall 1902 Norwich Norfolk
Lydia Jane Wilson 1902 Norwich Norfolk
.

He is not with his family on 1911 ?

WILSON, Agnes Alice Head Widow F 55 1856 Suffolk Lowestoft VIEW
WILSON, Agnes Daisy Daughter Single F 30 1881 Charwoman Suffolk Lowestoft VIEW
WILSON, Sarah Daughter Single F 23 1888 Milliner Scotland Buckin Resident VIEW
WILSON, Florence Daughter Single F 18 1893 Bookbinder Suffolk Lowestoft VIEW
.....
HALL, Lydia Jane Daughter Married F 28 1883 Suffolk Lowestoft VIEW
HALL, Gladys Lydia Granddaughter F 7 1904 Suffolk Lowestoft VIEW
HALL, Connie Bessie Granddaughter F 5 1906 Suffolk Lowestoft VIEW
HALL, Henry James Grandson M 4 1907 Suffolk Lowestoft VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
11049 Reference:
RG14PN11049 RG78PN597 RD218 SD2 ED14 SN35

Registration District:
Mutford Sub District:
Lowestoft EnumerationDistrict:
14 Parish:
Lowestoft

Address:
42 Maidstone Road Lowestoft County:
Suffolk

Dea x

Thanks Dea thats a thought worth investigating that could be the reason they hadnt married.
I have to go to work now so I will be back on about 9 pm

Thanks again
Michael