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Rosetta Ball's Maiden name

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mozart1

mozart1 Report 19 Sep 2009 15:02

On the 1901 Census it shows my great grandmother was Rosetta Ball born in1850 at Camberwell.
she was married to Gt Grandfather James Ball born 1860 Soho London and he was a photographer.
I am trying to find out what her maiden name was.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 19 Sep 2009 15:08

Have you traced her back through the census to give an idea of when she might have married?


1901 just for info
Name: Rosetta E Ball
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Camberwell, London, England

Civil parish: Streatham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary the Virgin Balham
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Streatham
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 240
Household Members: Name Age
James Ball 41 Soho
Rosetta E Ball 50
Daisy G Ball 19 Herne Hill
Robert H Ball 13 Herne Hill
Sydney A Ball 6



1891
Name: Daisy G Dall
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Rosetta
Gender: Female
Where born: Hernehill (Hernhill) S. E.

Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Dall 31 Soho - photographer
Rosetta Dall 40 Camberwell
Joseph R Dall 9
Daisy G Dall 7
Robert H Dall 3
Harold Tonneson 17 listed as step son, Camberwell
Ada Edwards 30

mozart1

mozart1 Report 19 Sep 2009 15:11

I've tried but with no success.

Smiley

Smiley Report 19 Sep 2009 15:12

A birth certificate of one of their children will give you Rosettas maiden name

Births Dec 1894

Ball Sydney Arthur
District: Wandsworth
Vol: 1d
Page: 803

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 19 Sep 2009 15:17

Using middle name in 1881

Name: Harold Lonnesen
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Step Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Camberwell, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Ramsgate
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address: 41 Queen St
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Thanet
Sub-registration district: Ramsgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Ball 40 Soho - photographer
Elizabeth Ball 30 Camberwell
Harold Lonnesen 7

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 19 Sep 2009 15:17

1891 mistranscribed Dall
88 Somerleyton Rd., Lambeth
James Ball, head, 31, photographer, born Soho
Rosetta, wife, 40, born Camberwell
Joseph R., son, 9, born Kent, Ramsgate
Daisy G., dau, 7, born Herne Hill SE
Robert H., son, 3, born "
Harold Tonneson?, stepson, 17, drug assistant, born Camberwell
Ada Edwards, visitor, 30, dressmaker, born Chelsea

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 19 Sep 2009 15:22

Name: Harold Ackrill Tonnesen
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 787

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 19 Sep 2009 15:25

1871 mad guess time


Name: Rosella E Ackrell
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Rosella
Gender: Female
Where born: Camberwell, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Camberwell St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles
Town: Camberwell
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Camberwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 54
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Ackrell 43
Rosella Ackrell 50
Rosella E Ackrell 26
Eliza Ackrell 18


GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 19 Sep 2009 15:27

Marriages Mar 1873 (>99%)
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Ackrill Rosetta Elizabeth Camberwell 1d 762
HANSON Kate Camberwell 1d 762
Paley Charles Edward S Camberwell 1d 762
Tonnesen Hanna Andreas Camberwell 1d 762
Tonnesen Hanns Andreas Camberwell 1d 762

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 19 Sep 2009 15:30

Can not find a death between 1871 and 1881 for Tonnesen so perhaps she was not free to marry James Ball


Looks like it could be a Norwegian surname

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 20 Sep 2009 09:19

Nudging to keep near the top of my threads

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Sep 2009 08:14

Oops no response

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 21 Sep 2009 19:31

So disappointed to see you have been on site today and not acknowledged the info posted on this thread by members

mozart1

mozart1 Report 22 Sep 2009 12:08

I thought the subject re' my Gt Grandmother was still running and that there might be more responses
I would always thank those who have contributed.

Best Regards and thanks to everyone for your help.
Brian

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 22 Sep 2009 17:31

Marriage Re Ancestry

Name: Hans Andreas Tonnesen
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Spouse Name: Rosetta Elizabeth Ackrill
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Feb 1873
Parish: Saint Giles, Camberwell
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Anders Tonnesen
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Ackrill

Hans = Batchelor, a merchant, living Peckham Grove, father a leather manufacture.

Rosetta = Spinster, living Vicarage Road, father a printer.

Witnesses Joseph Ackrill and Ellen Ackrill

They were married in the Parish Church Camberwell

Wendy

mozart1

mozart1 Report 22 Sep 2009 17:41

Thanks Wendy

Could she, (Rosetta) have been married twice as later she married our great grandfather, a Ball.?

Regards
Brian

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 22 Sep 2009 17:48

Free BMD
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Dec 1873 (>99%)

Tonnesen Harold Ackrill Camberwell 1d 787

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 22 Sep 2009 17:51

Can't find a birth or a death for Hans. Do you know that she actually married James Ball as I can't find a marriage for them. Could she have just taken his name?

Wendy

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 22 Sep 2009 18:08

Baptism


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Daisy Gertrude Ball
Name: Daisy Gertrude Ball
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 19 Feb 1899
Father's Name: James Ball
Mother's Name: Rosetta Ball
Parish: Saint Mary, Balham
Borough: Wandsworth
County: Middlesex

Father, James, a photographer address 45 Laitwood Road

Can't find baptisms for other children on the census

Wendy

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 22 Sep 2009 18:22

Rosetta's parents marriage


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Joseph Ackrill
Name: Joseph Ackrill
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Spouse Name: Rosetta Langley
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 Oct 1847
Parish: Saint Giles, Camberwell
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William Ackrill
Spouse Father Name: James Langley

Joseph was of age, a batchelor, occ. a compositor from Havill Street, father William also a compositor.

Rosetta was of age same address father James was a carpenter

Witnesses were Charles Gould Shinn and Jane Langley

Wendy