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Found 2 more marraiges in igi search for Alexander Stewart, but really not sure if they are the right ones both in Barony, Glasgow , names don't match with our Agnes
Agnes Fisher married 1840
Agnes Gardner married 1838.
Unfortunatley Scotlands People OPR won't show parents etc.
jean

Jean

Sometimes the OPR marriages give the bride and groom's father's names and occupations. Just depends on whose recording the entry.

Jolly good show getting the death for Duncan Junior. I am sure that there are loads of Duncan McGregors! And gosh - that now means there are more McGregor children to look for!!

Four pile of washing down, four to go!

rootgather,
I think the Duncan in the death record that Jean has found is the same one that is in the 1851 census with the Mitchell family so still probably just the three children.
By the way I'm in France. The weather was lovely but it's got cold again.

Jean,
If you found a marriage in 1840 for Alexander and Agnes - (but maiden name Fisher) then that would seem to narrow down the three records that I found.
Did you manage to check the other two with scotlands people? I would be interested to know the names of the other two Agnes'.

I tried looking for births for Margaret and Ann under the name Mitchell too but didn't have any luck there either.

Rootgatherer, please dont say that , We will not be looking for any more McGregor children !!!!!!

Catherine, the other Agnes's i found were
Agnes Gardner married 1838 Barony
Agnes Moir married 1839 Gorbals
Agnes Sturrock married 1841 St.Vigeans. I don't think this one is our Agnes. Going back to Scotlands People to look at OPR marraiges and try and figure out which one to spend my 5 credits on. wish me luck. jean

Oh dash, that's my three possibilities up the spout then.
1839 Agnes Moir
1840 Agnes Fisher
1841Agnes Sturrock
That seems to confirm even more that Agnes and Alexander didn't marry. Maybe they just lived together then?

Sorry no luck with the marraige for alexander and agnes, doesn't say parents names and agnes's surname is different, Where should we go now do you both think?

jean.

Catherine, lucky you i love France, go there most years for my holiday, usually to Antibes it's beautiful. Not this year though as i have just retired poor old me !!!!

Gosh Agnes Sturrock - what a small world - that's probably one of my husnbands ancestors!! I have Sturrocks from Forfarshire/ Angus coming out my ears particularly Davids and Agnes's !!!

Anyway France appeals - cheap booze and fags! And as for retirement - well what can I say except that if it wasn't for work I would have been up at the Mitchell for it opening at 9.30 this morning. I'm trying not to pin my hopes on the Poor Relief. I am bursting with curiosity to get up there! I have to go out Wednesday evening but if I can catch up with my chores then I think I've got to go Saturday! Surely with all these children and widows they must have claimed. I think Agnes, who died in the City Poorhouse is our best hope. With a bit of luck if she actually married Alexander it may tell us where and when. It may also tell us when he died and when her father died.

I read a couple of articles last week describing folk like us as geneaholics but it is actually worse - you can even get addicted to other folks ancestor hunts.

Think I am going to have to give up on the search for the marraige of Alexander and births for Margaret and Ann, beem on Scotlandspeople and igi all evening but no luck.Think i might start looking for my original request of trying to find births for Henry and Duncan, although it seems to me none of these children's births were registered. ( thats not a hint ).
Tell me about the addiction part, haven't been away from this computor since Sept. last year when I retired and started my family search, still very new to this.

regards jean

Perhaps we should start looking for your Sturrocks instead of my Stewart's and Moore's.


jean

Jean,
I haven't had any more luck with the girls birth either nor the marriage
but weren't the births I found for Duncan Stewart and Henry Moore Stewart (on page 2) the correct ones?

Wonder if the girls married? Their marriage records could give some extra info?
Hopefully the Poor House or the Cemetery line will give you some new leads.
If you do find anything I do hope you will put the info on the thread so we can see what you have found.

Hi Girls

I'm getting confused now - did any of you get a death for Granny Mitchell who was looking after her Granchildren and the McGregor kids? If there is a death date and place it may be worth checking for her on the poor records too.

Catherine, I am so sorry of course the births you found for Henry and Duncan were the correct ones , see what this is doing to me !!!!!!Having lots of senior moments. I think Rootgatherer may be going to The Mitchell and hopefully will find something, certainley if I lived in Scotland I would have been myself.
Thank you so much Catherine and Rootgatherer for all your help and advice I don't think I would have got this far. Of course if anything else comes to light I will post it on here.

Rootgatherer, Thank you for the offer of going to the Mitchell, but only if you have the time I am most grateful to you both.

Best wishes
Jean

Hi Rootgatherer, No I haven't looked for a death for granny Mitchell but I will take a look on S.P, I did find a death for Duncan Jnr.but I can't find me bloomin notes at the moment but i know he is the right one.and no haven't searched for the 2 McGregor girls but they are next on the list.
Sorry Rootgatherer saw your post after i had done mine.

Unfortunatley have to go out shopping soon , my daughter says I need some fresh air, which means she wants me to buy her lunch so will be back on the trail of the mcgregor girls later.

jean

Had a quick look for death for Ann Mitchell and narrowed it down to:-

Name: Mitchell
Forename: Ann
Other Surnames: Oliphant
Year: 1861
Birth year: 1785
County: Lanark
District: ?

Have just heard of a connection with my tree so have some work to do today to up date that branch of the family. Name is Mitchell but nothing to do with your Mitchells mine originated in Hull, Yorkshire. Will check in later.

Remember Granny Michell was Ann on one census and Margaret on another - may be best to search with the 2 surnames and approx. year of birth.

Death of Ann Mitchell

Statutory Deaths 1861, District Number 644/07, Entry Number 541

Ann Mitchell, aged 76 years, widow of John Mitchell, Flour Miller died at 4h. 30m AM on 19th September 1861 at 4 Stirling Street, Glasgow. Her father, John Oliphant a Gardener and her mother, Margaret Oliphant maiden surname Bartholemew were both deceased. The cause of death was Heart Disease and Dropsy. The informant was Agnes McGregor, her daughter who made her mark.

Ann might not be here but could this be her siblings? At least one of them is born in Dollar.

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1. JEAN OLIPHANT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 JUN 1782 Dollar, Clackmannan, Scotland

2. GEORGE OLIPHANT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 13 AUG 1769 Dalmeny, West Lothian, Scotland

3. ELIZABETH OLIPHANT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 NOV 1776 Dalmeny, West Lothian, Scotland

4. HELEN OLIPHANT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 NOV 1779 Dalmeny, West Lothian, Scotland

5. MARGARET OLIPHANT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 MAY 1767 Dalmeny, West Lothian, Scotland

6. MARY OLIPHANT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 03 JUL 1774 Dalmeny, West Lothian, Scotland

7. JOHN OLIPHANT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 JAN 1772 Dalmeny, West Lothian, Scotland

8. MARGARET OLIPHANT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 MAY 1767 Dalmeny, West Lothian, Scotland

9. ELIZABETH OLIPHANT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 NOV 1776 Dalmeny, West Lothian, Scotland

10. HELEN OLIPHANT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 NOV 1779 Dalmeny, West Lothian, Scotland

Marriage?

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Spouse: MARGARET BARTHOLOMEW Family
Marriage: 20 JUN 1766 Dalmeny, West Lothian, Scotland



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Brilliant, so it is definitely her then even the address fits!

Well done rootgatherer looks like you've found another generation!
But did you notice that Helen Margaret and Elizabeth are noted twice?

Thought this could be Ann:-

1. ANNE OLIPHANT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 24 FEB 1786
2. ANNE OLIPHANT - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 05 MAR 1786 Dollar, Clackmannan, Scotland
Father: JOHN OLIPHANT
Mother: MARGARET BARCLAY

but not the same mother?