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was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 18 Oct 2012 22:39

It's a very lengthy search - it's so kind of you to do it but I really feel it will take much longer than you think!

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 19 Oct 2012 20:31

Viv you are a gem,wish I could be there with you.
Things are not too good at the moment, more friends popped their clogs, has anyone got any good news???? I could do with some joy in my life, who knows what tomorrow will bring
Been trying to clear out years of clutter from the attic, takes a lot of time as I tend to read every letter etc.
Love to all
Evelyn X

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 20 Oct 2012 18:46

I went back yesterday and found nothing....I admit I had to look at front pages only and scan read others...I have done from 1945 through to 1949 bar a few months and some missing issues...But found nothinbg that could have been the story.

Please would you email or PM me with All of that memory please Ev?
And maybe take some time to think on the most likely time?
I have some poss surnames I will send you,not from that paper from elsewhere...
But not tonight Josephine..

I aint given up yet...Not quite...

I shall return there after they reopen when I visit this crew again....

I am short on time now as I have had lots of family commitments too since getting here...Lumbered with the Twin girls..Toddler Fee and Mr H every time I turned round ...Talk about make use of the Nan thats staying..!!

I now have to put em to bed and make my way to my Sister Out Of Laws 40th surprise party as soon as they are alsleep and the child sitter turns up..

Son and DIL long gone as they are doing the disco..

WOE is a grandmothers life..

Back home on Sun night and my own puter Mon..Will be back then.

On Mr Hs lappie and I dont like it much..
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:-(

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 20 Oct 2012 19:06

You did good FBG, have a big pat on the back, lol.

(if Evelyn reads through those old letters, well, you never know!)...

Chris :)

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 20 Oct 2012 19:16

Thank you Chris Ho...I will take a bow...I like a bow in my hair for parties..

But didnt do as good as all of us would have liked though.....

Quick change and shouting at granchers to get to bed and here party I come. ;-)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 20 Oct 2012 21:34

You've done well Fans..............for your age of course! Shouldn't you be putting your feet up and all that??? ;-)


We won't give up Evelyn..........hope you are feeling brighter today <3


:-D

wisechild

wisechild Report 8 Nov 2012 14:21

Hi Evelyn.
Hope you are OK because it´s been very quiet on the thread for a couple of weeks, although I know that several people are beavering away behind the scenes.
Marion

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 8 Nov 2012 20:31

ScotlandsPeople now has wills up to 1925. Might be worth searching them!

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 9 Nov 2012 11:33

Hi everyone. Haven't heard from Evelyn for a while so I hope she is okay.........sending love to her.... <3


About 18 months ago, I sent a message to person on FB who had the surname Goddard-Fenwick, in the hope that they were related to Evelyn's Godmother and could help.


Just this week they have replied with apologies and asking how they can help. I have filled them in (very briefly) with the details of our search for DLM and hope that they get back to me soon. If no-one from the family can recall anything about Diane, then that avenue may be closed for a while.


Meanwhile.........we keep on beavering away...

:-D :-D :-D

wisechild

wisechild Report 9 Nov 2012 12:30

Well done Cynthia.
Hope springs eternal.
Like you I hope Evelyn is OK as she has had quite a difficult year.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 12 Nov 2012 21:29

Here we go my friends......something for you to look at and, perhaps, work on.


It appears that the 107 year old lady mentioned by Evelyn's mother all those those years ago could have been:

May 1945 - Mrs Isabella MacLeod aged 107 and 6 months. Of 13 Vatisker. Born in North Tolsta in the year of Queen Victoria's accession.


What has been looked at so far:

l) The newspaper report contains no personal information sadly.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

2) From my contact at the Stornoway Historical Society:

Hi Cynthia,

I have some information on Isabella Macleod's family taken from a Croft History for North Tolsta.

Father: William Macdonald (1811-97) son of Murdo Macdonald, 29 Back, Isle of Lewis
Mother: Margaret Maclennan (1816-95) daughter of John Maclennan, 26 Vatisker, Back, Isle of Lewis

They were cottars (illegal tenants on another croft) at North Tolsta but went to 1 Tolsta in 1851

Issue: -

1. Catherine, 1837-74 m. John Campbell, 54 Tolsta. They had one daughter, Ann. John remarried after her death.
2. Isabella 1838-1945 m. Angus Macleod, 13a Vatisker, Back, Isle of Lewis
3. Ann 1841, died young.
4. Allan 1848-1900 m. Kirsty Maclean, 4 Portnaguran, Point, Isle of Lewis, moved to 67a Tolsta
5. Ann 1851, died young
6. John 1854 - m. Mary Maclennan, 60 Tolsta. John inherited the family croft at 1 Tolsta
7. Margaret 1857- m. Angus Maciver, 11 Tolsta. They were cottars at 1 Tolsta
8. Murdo 1859 - m. Ann Murray, 61 Tolsta

I have a feeling that 'Aunt Kate' must have been one of Isabella's daughters or nieces. Catherine was a common name in the family it appears.
Sadly there is no croft history for Vatisker but I will enquire further.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

3) Below are some of the census which Viv has looked at and she is particularly interested in the daughter Catherine born c1879. She has done some research but has got caught up with something else and could do with some help please.



1881
Reg. District: Stornoway
Sub District:
Parish: Stornoway
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 41, Vatisker, Stornoway
County: Ross and Cromarty
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MCLEOD, Angus Head Married M 39 1842 Crofter
Stornoway G, Rossshire
MCLEOD, Isabella Wife Married F 40 1841
Stornoway G, Rossshire
MCLEOD, Isabella Daughter F 8 1873 Scholar
Stornoway G, Rossshire
MCLEOD, John Son M 4 1877
Stornoway G, Rossshire
MCLEOD, Catherine Daughter F 1 1880 :-)
Stornoway G, Rossshire
MCLEOD, Henrietta Mother Widow F 72 1809 No Occupation
Stornoway G, Rossshire


1891
Reg. District: Stornoway
Sub District:
Parish: Stornoway
Enum. District: 23
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Pri House, Stornoway
County: Ross and Cromarty
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MCLEOD, Angus Head Married M 50 1841 Crofter
Stornoway Gaelic, Ross & Cromarty
MCLEOD, Isabella Wife Married F 52 1839
Stornoway G, Ross & Cromarty
MCLEOD, John Son M 14 1877 Scholar
Stornoway G, Ross & Cromarty
MCLEOD, Catherine Daughter F 11 1880 Scholar :-)
Stornoway G, Ross & Cromarty
MCLEOD, Donald Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Stornoway G, Ross & Cromarty
MCLEOD, Henrietta Mother Widow F 90 1801
Stornoway G, Ross & Cromarty



Angus and Isabella married in 1871 on the 16th November
Both down as age 30.

They had 4 children and four living on 1911....and said duration of marriage was 40 years....She is still living with the McIver family side.....


WHO DID DAUGHTER CATHERINE MARRY?

DID SHE, IN FACT, MARRY?

WHERE IS SHE IN 1911?

Those are the questions Viv would like answered the most please. :-D



Cx <3

Linda

Linda Report 12 Nov 2012 22:40

There is a marriage on SP on 6/1/1910 in Stornoway for Angus Mc Iver age 32yrs a fisherman F is Angus McIver M Isabella McIver ms Montgomery (DEC)

to Catherine MacLeod (x her mark) age 29yrs F is an Alexander MacLeod and M is Isabella MacLeod ms MacLeod

Witnesses Angus MacLeod and Roderick? MacLeod

OR 1901 Census shows 2 Catherine MacLeods aged 22 in Stornoway
1911 shows 2 also aged 30 and 31

I dont have any more credits left dont know if this helps or hinders!

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 13 Nov 2012 00:44


Looks like you might be onto something Linda

http://pentlandroad.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/village-memorial-vatisker.html


Private DONALD MACIVER
Last address in Lewis: 13 Vatisker <<<<<<<<<<
Seaforth Highlanders
Date of death: 26 April 1915


Mind you that is 13 not 13a and MCIVER could well be as common a name as Macleod!


Edit : Donald MCIVER with Isabella and family in 1901

Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Angus Macleod
Gender: Female
Where born: Stornoway, rossshire
Registration number: 88
Registration district: Stornoway
Civil parish: Stornoway
County: Ross and Cromarty
Address: 13 Vatisker
Occupation: Crofters Wife
ED: 23
Household schedule number: 85
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1901_25
Household Members:
Name Age
Angus Macleod 60
Isabella Macleod 60
Isabella Macleod 28
Kenneth Maciver 30
John Maciver 6
Donald Maciver 4
William Maciver 3
George Maciver 1 Mo
John Macleod 24
Catherine Macleod 22

Julie

Renes

Renes Report 13 Nov 2012 01:01

Well done all

Hope all is well with you Evelyn
<3 <3

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Nov 2012 09:19

(checks in at latest! Ooh!)...

Chris :)

(looks at Renes, and wonders if that is a plate of edibles, lol)~~~~~~



http://lewis-lost-ww1.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/donald-maciver-13-vatisker.html

(photo of Donald on above)


Name: MACLEOD, Catherine
Registration district: [?] Poole
County: Dorset
Year of registration: 1964
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:84
Volume no: 7C
Page no: 817

(just an aside, did this lady appear in 'Thread' anywhere?, Spinster, Administration to Frederick Wormwell, retired Bank manager)



FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 13 Nov 2012 12:06

Our Old Baggage Cynthia has forgotten or left out one piece of info that I am also interested in but have got no where with so far on this line of enquiry..

Catherine Macleod C1879 daughter of Isabella and Angus is said to have married a possible Macleod and had one daughter at least..
Catherine Mary????
Year Born????
But we DO know now that they lived on ........




INDIA STREET Stornoway...


Off to look for the email that Baggage received.


At last I found it among all the rub....Errrrrr,nice emails that she sends me :-D


Or maybe she didnt wanna give you too much info to work with in case it confuses you like it does her.. :-S


Dear Cynthia
From the information we have in the Tolsta Historical
records, Catherine, Isabella's daughter was married. She had at least one
daughter Catherine Mary and the family lived on India Street Stornoway. I
think their surname was also Macleod and were known in Lewis as Clann a'Phrois.


Best wishes with your research.
Donald Murray

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 13 Nov 2012 12:14

Linda
Thank you for the search...

Trouble is that Isabella Macleod who married Angus Macleod was a MacDonald before marriage..

I think its in Cynthias post?


But in my searching I have also noted that the Montgomery family are somehow related to the Macleods of this lot...
Been working on it and then like you ran out of credits...For now..

Thank you all for the help you give Evelyn......Im saying it for her as she seems to still be AWOL.....

I have emailed Evelyn and sent PMs but she remains schtumm at the moment..
Will be forced to phone her soon if she dont surface...Yep thats a promise not a threat Evelyn so BEWARE .....:P

Do hope she is still with us at times but you know what old age is like....: :-(

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 13 Nov 2012 12:36

Sorry. Sorry. Sorry...............yep, I did miss that bit out....which was fairly crucial really.

BUT, in my humble defence, the Old Bat (FBG) suggested adding the above whilst I was waiting for the family to arrive for my OH's birthday tea. Got a bit confused after that!



I will try and do better in future Miss .............. :-( :-P ;-)

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 13 Nov 2012 13:17

Its a good thing I come along and check your posts then init Baggage?????

Glad to hear you will try to do better Baggage...ABOUT TIME.. :-P :-P :-P

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 13 Nov 2012 13:59

http://announce.jpress.co.uk/17243616?s_source=jpsc_stor

(wonder if above were connected, bit too recent!!)

Chris :)

That May 1945 Death, would there be mention in Stornoway Gazette, do you think?...(was this from FBG's recent newspaper search)