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Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Aug 2011 20:49

Wonders if the Mrs P Goddard Fenwick, is the wife of George D C Goddard brother of Evelyn S , he married 1936 Kensington, to a Patricia E M Whitby. (with his mother Christophine on 1891, Devon)

(sorry, not meaning to sidetrack from Macleod)

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 9 Aug 2011 20:56

Thanks both.

I had noticed Chrstophine in my travels and the double-barrelled name does fluctute a bit.


I have googled Street(ed) both the addresses and yes, very nice indeed.

No worries about side-tracking Chris......it's probably the only way we're going to find her 'cos she sure ain't on the straight and narrow path.





:-D

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 9 Aug 2011 23:36

It's very easy to lose the plot isn't it! I did re-read pgs 22-23 last night but failed to remember today that both Evelyn G and Emily F Goddard Fenwick had been found in 1911( I posted earlier that I couldn't find them).

In 1851 Christophine Fenwick's mother Emily is an annuitant and Emily's mother Sarah Ferrand is a Landed Proprietor. Christophine married George Stephen Goddard in 1868. He was a paymaster in the Royal Navy. Just wondering if this monied family might have had something to do with Diane's private allowance before she married.

Oh well. Will keep on digging...........

Julie

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 10 Aug 2011 07:42

I have a feeling that Dafforne road is the key and may eventually give us answers.

The FG 's were there until late fiftys at least so a long occupancy if rented.

Renes

Renes Report 10 Aug 2011 14:35

LK

I have forgotten how I did it now --- but I remember logging on to The Land Registry ( I think) -- giving the address of house we owned ( I wanted to check boundary fence from memory) and could see us listed as owners and the others before us

It is sometime ago when I lived in UK and not altogether with it at present moment in time ---maybe it is worth a route about to see who actually owned the house

Renes

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 10 Aug 2011 15:08

Well try and remember Renes! Doh!

That is your allotted task. :-D :-D

Renes

Renes Report 10 Aug 2011 15:13

Am on it as you speak ----need post code ..Googling NOW


have emailed Land Registry ---44 Dafforne Road SW17 8TZ



EDIT ---response recd

Thank you for your email dated 10 August 2011.
Our records for this property do not go back to the date that you are interested and I regret that I am unable to assist you further.

Renes

Renes Report 10 Aug 2011 17:12


Dont suppose this would help as Diane probably used same info for ration book as marriage

http://www.ic.nhs.uk/services/1939-register-service

This enumeration occurred on the 29 September 1939 and a National Registration number was assigned to each person after the following data was collected from each household:

* Names.
* Sex.
* Date of birth.
* Occupation, profession, trade or employment.
* Residence.
* Condition as to marriage.
* Membership of Naval, Military or Air Force Reserves or Auxiliary Forces or of Civil Defence Services or Reserves, if recorded.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 10 Aug 2011 21:11

Not sure about that Renes but Evelyn has sent me her mother's ration book number. Anyone any ideas of what to do twith it though?


A helpful member has spotted the following:

A member of the Goddard-Fenwick family left England for Singapore in 1960. Their address was 44 Dafforne Road so, it looks as though the house stayed in the family.


Also found......A George Digby Crofton Goddard-Fenwick was married
in Chelsea to Helen Maud(e) Knight, she died 1936 Sussex . She is on the 1911 together with Evelyn Goddard Fenwick, another Teacher! (this census is in the Thread)


George D C is on 1901 in Norwich a Teacher, at Mount Roland Preparatory School, East Preston, Sussex.

Cannot find him 1911...

Nothing in the Times coming up for 44 Dafforne Road, wondered if there might be a Sale notice or something. If a Goddard -Fenwick is still there in 1960, I wonder if George D C Goddard Fenwick owned it?...




Thank you very much for that info......all ideas/suggestions welcome.
Cx





Choccy

Choccy Report 10 Aug 2011 21:58



don't know it it's relevant or been posted before -


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941

Name: Christophine Sarah Caroline Fenwick
Probate Date: 21 Mar 1906
Death Date: 30 Nov 1905
Death Place: Surrey, England
Registry: London


of 160 Rosendale Road, Dulwich, Widow
Administration (with Will) to Christophine Fanny Georgina G-F, spinster

effects - £957 8s 6d




1901

GODDARD, Christophine Head Widow F 57 1844 Living On Own Means
Budleigh Salterton
Devonshire VIEW
GODDARD, William H W Son Single M 27 1874 Missionary Student
Jersey VIEW
GODDARD, Evelyn G S Daughter Single F 26 1875 Proffessor Of Music
Jersey VIEW
GODDARD, Emily F Daughter Single F 24 1877 Cat Fancier
Jersey VIEW
GODDARD, Louisa C C Daughter Single F 18 1883 Music Student
Stoke Devonport
Devonshire VIEW
MIDDLEWICK, Edith Servant Single F 18 1883
Ipplepen
Devonshire VIEW

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RG number:
RG13 Piece:
416 Folio:
48 Page:
36

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Kennington First Enumeration District:
24 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Kennington South St Barnabas

Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
30, Lansdowne Gardens, Lambeth County:
London

Choccy

Choccy Report 10 Aug 2011 22:52




British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription

First name(s): Robert

Last name: MCLEOD

Calculated year of birth: 1880

Parish of birth: Branahuie

Town of birth: Stornoway

County of birth: Ross and Cromarty

Age at attestation: 18 years 2 months

Attestation date: 24 October 1898

Attestation corps: 3RD BN SEAFORTH HIGHRS

Attestation soldier number: 4146

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps: Seaforth Highlanders (Ross-Shire Buffs The Duke Of Albany's) - 72nd & 78th Foot

Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO96 / 1118 / 84



Obviously not a Major = was a fisherman when enlisting


Address is - No. 11 Branahuie, Stornaway, Ross


Mention is made of Angus McLeod at that address (could be his father)


Choccy

Choccy Report 10 Aug 2011 23:05



1901 Scotland Census

Name: Angus M Leod
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Catherine M Leod
Gender: Male
Where born: Stornoway, Rossshire
Registration Number: 88
Registration district: Stornoway
Civil parish: Stornoway
County: Ross and Cromarty
Address: 11 Branahuie
Occupation: Crofter
ED: 10
Household schedule number: 14
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1901_24
Household Members: Name Age
Angus M Leod 52
Catherine M Leod 49
Hector M Leod 22
John M Leod 16
Ann M Leod 13
Issabella M Leod 10




Source Citation: Parish: Stornoway; ED: 10; Page: 3; Line: 21; Roll: CSSCT1901_24; Year: 1901.


Renes

Renes Report 10 Aug 2011 23:42

On the Army Records ---that Choccy posted --it says page 3
Embarked for Egypt 14.02.00
Disembarked Southampton 10-06 01

and there is this birth ------

Name: MCLEOD, Ida C C
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1966
Regiment: Seaforth Highlanders (Ross-Shire Buffs, The Duke O
Place: Cairo
Country: Egypt
Year: 1901
Volume: 206
Page: 32
Record source: GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)

Quoy

Quoy Report 11 Aug 2011 07:29

October 27, 1884

A fine art book by Mrs. Christophine Goddard will shortly be issued by Messers Dean and son entitled All in the sun.
It will contain chrome etchings and pictures in colour of child life

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 11 Aug 2011 08:52

Oh Mother you are a mystery.
Thank you everyone for your kind help

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 11 Aug 2011 10:38

Oh my! Thank you all for this info.

I can't recall seeing a Louisa C.C. Godddard before and, it is odd that there is an Ida C.C. MacLeod. (love the reference re Emily being a 'Cat Fancier')

It is obvious that the Goddard-Fenwicks were a very talented family and our Evelyn seems to have been named after at least 2 of them.

I am not as good as the rest of you at working census things out (I prefer parish records), so need to fetch Fans to see if anything in her records matches what we have here...


Where is she when you need her.....



Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaans!

Choccy

Choccy Report 11 Aug 2011 11:25



the birth Irene posted also comes up with this -


Armed Forces registration event: Birth

Name: MCLEOD, Ida Colina C

Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1966

Station: Cairo

Country: Egypt

Year: 1901

Page: 463

Record source: GRO Army Birth Indices (1881 to 1965)

Renes

Renes Report 11 Aug 2011 12:16

Choccy

I saw that -- it actually give 5 entries ---

MCLEOD, Ida C C
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1966
Regiment: 72nd Foot
Place: Cairo
Country: Egypt
Year: 1901
Volume: 210
Page: 50
Record source: GRO Regimental Birth Indices (1761 to 1924)

this one has diff Volume Page

And I could not figure out if the Ida Colina ref page 463 belonged to which Volume/Page ---

how did you figure it please

Choccy

Choccy Report 11 Aug 2011 12:25



Hi Irene

I didn't really figure it out - just assumed there would not be two Ida C C McLeods born in 1901, and one of the entries gave another christian name. The one I posted is an Army birth index, whereas the one you posted is a Regimental birth index - presumably military births are indexed this way?


Choccy

Choccy Report 11 Aug 2011 12:27



The fact that Diane was insistent about the 'Leslie' part of her name - could this possibly be her mother's surname? I suspect this has already been pondered on.