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Can anyone please help me to find a marriage between James B W Smith and Elizabeth Isabel Stead (1875) Penge, Surrey.

Thanks

Peter

have you looked on this site

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Births Jun 1875
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Stead Elizabeth Isabella M Croydon 2a 205


The district Croydon spans the boundaries of the counties of Greater London, Kent and Surrey


Penge
SRY
1837
1899
transferred to KEN in 1899

KEN
1899
1934
transferred from SRY in 1899 / transferred to Bromley district on 1.4.1934

there is nothing on bdm

Have at long last found Elizabeth on the 1901

Elizabeth Smith
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Penge, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Chatham
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Medway
Sub registration district: Rochester and Chatham
ED, institution, or vessel: 47
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 254
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Smith 26
Willie Smith 5
Florence Smith 3
Eva Smith 1
Charles Stead 21

Elizabeth is down as a Widower


Deaths Mar 1900 (>99%)
Smith James Breeze W 32 Medway 2a 512
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I can't see a marriage though

Births Dec 1867


Smith James Breeze W Medway 2a 403


The district Medway is in the county of Kent

Hi Julie, Thanks for looking however, freebmd cannot find a marriage for James Breeze Smith however it can find his birth and death!! Strange??

Peter

Peter

I have to agree it is very strange, im kind of wondering if they did marry

Sorry Julie,

I sent my first response before I realised you had added more info.

In the 1911 census, it states that Elizabeth Isabella Martha was then married (for 8 years) to Albert James Purkiss who had had a daughter, Louisa, Elizabeth also had with her Willie, Florence and Eva. Louisa's step brother and sisters)

As James Breeze died in 1900, I must assume they married (if indeed they did) in around 1894.

Regards,

Peter

The problem I find is that I can't find eithert marriage (James or Albert)!

Hi Sablon,

Thanks for your input.

You have found both Elizabeth's and James' birth dates.

As I said to Julie, I can't find eeither marriage for James Breeze/Elizabeth Stead or Albert Purkiss/Elizabeth Stead

Regards,

Peter

possible marriage for the brother
Charles Stead

Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
Cooke Ellen M Stead Godstone 2a 503
Stead Charles Cooke Godstone 2a 503

Godstone Iis in Surrey

she may have been a witness at his marriage

OMD's...Talk about not making it easy

I can't see a marriage for them either

Did James B W Smith have a brother named Owen Smith ?

Could she have previously been married for a short time?
In which case you woould not be looking for a marriage with a maiden name.

Hi BoroGirl,

Thanks for looking.

Did you also notice that there was a Charles W Stead married to May E Wilson in Medway (2a: 1549) 1916

In the 1881 census Charles was named as Charles R W Stead.

Could the Medway (bearing in mind they are living in Chatham) Charles be Elizabeth's brother?

What do you think?

Peter

Hi BoroGirl,

Elizabeth had two sisters, Alice A and Lavinia Harriet and a brother Charles C W

I notice that there is a Charles W Stead married to May E Wilson 1916 Medway (2a: 1549) could this be him bearing in mind they all lived in Chatham (Medway)

Regards,

Peter

Peter

Hi Christine,

In 1891, Elizabeth was just 16 years old.

If she was married prior to both Smith & Purkiss, how will I know,? It all takes place between censuses!!

Perhaps I should be looking for Elizabeth Smith for the marriage to Albert Purkiss?

I'll have a look

Regards,

Peter

Hi Peter its likely to be Medway if they lived there
can't find that one on freebmd


I did find this one

Marriages Sep 1908 (>99%)
SMITH Elizabeth Isabella Barnet 3a 699
SMITH Owen Barnet 3a 6

which is why I asked about James Smiths brothers


I looked for the smith/purkiss marriage i didnt find it
its unlikely she was married before she was sixteen isnt it

Hi BoroGirl,

It is really freaky that you found an Elizabeth Isabella Smith, however, she was 'married' to Albert James Purkiss at that time or she was certainly giving birth to his child - Louisa May Purkiss (October 1908) Sheppey 2a: 983:

Peter

hey its nice to have found one that can be ruled out