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EvieBeavie
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4 Feb 2009 03:52 |
I have to admit I gave up. ;)
... and wandered off to play with the descendancy of William Wells Brown ... about which I am highly sceptical ...
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EvieBeavie
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4 Feb 2009 03:54 |
But the lesson here is: when you're down to your last gasp for help, come bang on Dee's and my heads. We make quite a team, no? ;)
And regardless of where Sarah Emily was in 1891, we do know *who* she was now.
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JenW
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5 Feb 2009 17:53 |
Thank you so much guys, you've given me so much to work on!! Jen x
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Richard
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10 Feb 2009 19:17 |
GEORGE MARSH BORN 3RD QTR 1872 W.DERBY LANCS 8B 381 GEORGE MARSH MARRIES SARAH BARRETT 2ND QTR 1913 I W.DERBY LANCS 8B 671, ANY HELP RICHARD.
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JenW
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13 Feb 2009 12:16 |
I can't believe the guessing worked! Thank you so much. I received the birth certificate of the Sarah Emily Barritt born Burnley in 1873 today. The parents listed are Michael Barritt, a plasterer, and Cecelia Barritt formerly Eaton. Sarah was born 23rd April 1873.
I have also received the marriage certificate of Michael and Cecelia, although it does look like it says Cellerie/Celleric as it's transcribed on freebmd. They married on 24th September 1870, he was 23 and a plasterer, she was 22 and a heeler. His father was Tom Barrett, a labourer and hers was Jonas?!? Eaton, a basket maker. Both addresses at time of marriage says Keighley Green.
Hopefully I can now prove that the rest of the info is correct.
Thanks again Jen
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AnnCardiff
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13 Feb 2009 13:05 |
1881 James DUFFY Head M Male 60 Ireland Blacksmith Eliza DUFFY Wife M Female 48 Ireland Silk Weaver Catherine BARRETT Daur M Female 21 Mchester, Lancashire, England Silk Weaver Jonas BARRETT Grand Son Male 9 m Mchester, Lancashire, England Annie DUFFY Daur U Female 18 Mchester, Lancashire, England Silk Weaver Lizzie JEROYLIE Boarder W Female 30 Mchester, Lancashire, England Doubler In Mill (C)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 102 Lind St Census Place Manchester, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341951 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3984 / 57 Page Number 46
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AnnCardiff
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13 Feb 2009 13:06 |
1881 James Richd. COLLINS Inmate U Male 7 Scholar Charles Ed. WILDMAN Inmate U Male 10 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar Lionel SHAWCROSS Inmate U Male 11 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar Roland SWANN Inmate U Male 7 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar Richard Henry TAYLOR Inmate U Male 8 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar James Heywood WALKER Inmate U Male 11 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar John Thos. WILLACY Inmate U Male 13 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar Thomas KELLY Inmate U Male 7 Scholar John SMITH Inmate U Male 6 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar John TURNER Inmate U Male 11 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar John COSTELLO Inmate U Male 9 Scholar Jonas BARRATT Inmate U Male 11 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar Wm. Joseph BARRATT Inmate U Male 9 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar Thomas BINNS Inmate U Male 14 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar Henry KILSHAW Inmate U Male 12 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar Lawrence COSTELLO Inmate U Male 6 Scholar Robert GREAVES Inmate U Male 9 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar Albert GREAVES Inmate U Male 6 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar Joseph MC MANUS Inmate U Male 6 Scholar Thomas HARGREAVES Inmate U Male 9 Manchester, Lancashire, England Scholar (Continued)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Institution The Industrial Schools Swinton Lancashire Census Place Worsley, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341927 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3879 / 108 Page Number 19
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EvieBeavie
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13 Feb 2009 15:58 |
Annie Annie Annie. Our "Jonas" Eaton was the father of someone who married in 1873 -- Celia Eaton who married Thomas Barritt. Hm, are you thinking they may have had a son Jonas Barrett before marrying? There doesn't seem to be any match there ...
The main problem being that our "Jonas" Eaton was really Amos Eaton! If I'm recalling correctly. ;)
So Jen, we dunnit! 'Tweren't no guessing. Sheer collective brilliance, that's what 'twere.
Let us know if you find Sarah in, what was it, 1891?
;P
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JenW
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13 Feb 2009 16:40 |
yeh, 1891 seems to be a tricky one. i now think the sarah eaton in 1911 is incorrect too. thanks for all your help evie Jen
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EvieBeavie
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13 Feb 2009 18:07 |
Back to 1911 - I searched for George Marsh born in Australia, no other criteria, and got one:
MARSH GEORGE HENRY 1854 57 West Derby Lancashire
Older than your info, which I think was 1864.
I can't tell who's in the household with him.
But aha, he shows up on a search for Marsh with Barett in the household. So do the search in reverse -- Barrett with Marsh in the household ... suspense ...
BARRETT GRACE GERTRUDE 1904 7 West Derby Lancashire BARRETT HILDA EVELYN 1907 4 West Derby Lancashire
but no Sarah.
Searching for a Sarah in West Derby with George Henry Marsh in the household, there ain't one.
There's this Sarah Marsh:
MARSH SARAH F 1875 36 West Derby Lancashire
but no Barrett in the household, and no recognizable Marsh.
I'd pay for a peak at the George Henry Marsh household, I think!
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EvieBeavie
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13 Feb 2009 18:09 |
Oh, duh. I reread post 1. You knew all that already. See, we aren't always so smart. ;)
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JenW
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15 Feb 2009 13:01 |
dont think the 1911 one is her but here it is
1911 Census Household Transcript
Search againName: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born: Report error View Original Page MARSH, SARAH HEAD MARRIED 1 YEAR F 36 LANCS L'POOL A household occupies a single original household page.
In cases where a household was too large for one page an institution schedule was filled in instead.
Institutions, vessels and military buildings may span more than one original page.
You will be charged 30 PayAsYouGo credits for each original page you view. MARSH SARAH (RG14PN22471 RG78PN1323 RD455 SD6 ED28 SN366) Address 42 ROCKINGHAM ST KIRKDALE LIVERPOOL County Lancashire District West Derby Subdistrict Kirkdale Enumeration District 28 Parish Kirkdale
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EvieBeavie
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15 Feb 2009 23:44 |
Hmm, she's the only person in that household? It's possible, even though they didn't marry until 1913; she could have been calling herself married. George and the daughters are somewhere else ... is either George or Sarah recorded as a visitor on census night? Can you tell whether there was anyone else in the household she was in?
And the 1911 census was supposed to reveal all!
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