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30 Jan 2009 11:13 |
evie i did not mean to send you on a wild goose chase . I thought i made it clear when i said i was looking for there voyage from France, I am trying to go backwards I know sometimes you need to come forwards to get there,But i really am at the end of the road on this one,and out of all the volenteers i thought you would be able to help,you seem to know your stuff once again the goosechase was unintentional and thankyou for trying
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EvieBeavie
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30 Jan 2009 11:25 |
Have you googled? ;)
http://www.nom-famille.com/nom-barassin.html
Données par département Calvados (14) Barassin est le 3 017ème nom 58 pers. Cher (18) Barassin est le 4 283ème nom 33 pers. Yonne (89) Barassin est le 4 656ème nom 39 pers. Essonne (91) Barassin est le 9 405ème nom 46 pers. Paris (75) Barassin est le 21 991ème nom 62 pers.
(I'm assuming you read French.)
A grand total of fewer than 250 Barassins in France now. Which isn't the same total as the site gives:
En France : 171 personnes portent le nom de famille Barassin selon nos estimations
Quite a few of 'em on Facebook!
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=+site:www.facebook.com+barassin
You never know -- there might be one who knows who his/her ancestors circa 1800 were.
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sablon
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30 Jan 2009 11:34 |
hi evie i have googled and googled,yes there are a lot of Barassins in France i have joined french sites contacted some french people with the name with no luck wrote to calvados but they can't help with no fathers name for auguste you name it i have done it ,makes you want to scream thanks anyway for trying
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EvieBeavie
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30 Jan 2009 12:40 |
So I am indeed useless (I've given up on trying to trick the IGI into disclosing some secret thing, too, try though I did). But I've just been sucking up. I have this little Jersey problem of my own ...
Seriously! I do! I have a gr-grfather's sister consistently shown in the censuses as born in Jersey 1843ish. The parents were born in Cornwall and Devon, the next children were born in Devon and Cornwall, there's no marriage for the parents anywhere, and the daughter was born in Jersey.
If they ever married. If she's their daughter (or the daughter of one of 'em maybe).
Their name is Hill. In Cornwall/Devon, that's worse than Smith.
A year ago I was contacted through Ancestry by the grx2 granddaughter of the daughter in question, who had seen my notes all over her ancestors in the censuses. Until then, she didn't know her grx2 gm was a Hill. She'd always been told she was a Miss Montmorency from France, and she'd returned to France before she died. Well, she already knew that part was a crock; she'd found her years before, a widowed day nursery matron in Tranmere, where she died just after the 1901.
It's a family of strange stories, and that's but one. But ... if you are ever wandering around any archives in the Channel Islands and happen upon the marriage or birth of any Hills ... or Montmorencys ... well ... ;) ;) ;)
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sablon
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30 Jan 2009 16:22 |
hi evie well about your Hills give me somemore info on the names and dates, Ihave a hill in my tree born 1914 and a little info on some Hills born earlier
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AnnCardiff
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30 Jan 2009 16:31 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Husband Henry BARASSIN Pedigree Birth: Christening: Marriage: Death: 1710 Saint Pierre La Vieille, , Calvados, France Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife Catherine BOULANT Pedigree Birth: Christening: Marriage: Death: 1710 Saint Pierre La Vieille, , Calvados, France Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Children
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Philippe BARASSIN Pedigree Male Birth: 20 DEC 1687 Saint Pierre La Vieille, , Calvados, France Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Thomas BARASSIN Pedigree Male Birth: 20 OCT 1691 Saint Pierre La Vieille, , Calvados, France Christening: Death: 1721 Saint Pierre La Vieille, , Calvados, France Burial:
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AnnCardiff
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30 Jan 2009 16:33 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Husband François Julien BARASSIN Pedigree Birth: 04 DEC 1778 Saint Pierre La Vieille, , Calvados, France Christening: Marriage: 18 JUL 1803 Saint Vigor Des Mezerets, , Calvados, France Death: Saint Vigor Des Mezerets, , Calvados, France Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife Marie Marguerite Françoise DUVAL Pedigree Birth: 28 JAN 1781 Vassy, Calvados, France Christening: Marriage: 18 JUL 1803 Saint Vigor Des Mezerets, , Calvados, France Death: 01 APR 1819 Saint Vigor Des Mezerets, , Calvados, France Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Children
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Anne Julie BARASSIN Pedigree Female Birth: 19 OCT 1804 Saint Vigor Des Mezerets, , Calvados, France Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2. Jacques François BARASSIN Pedigree Male Birth: 29 DEC 1805 Saint Vigor Des Mezerets, , Calvados, France Christening: Death: 31 OCT 1807 Saint Vigor Des Mezerets, , Calvados, France Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3. Anne Marie Charlotte BARASSIN Pedigree Female Birth: 26 JUL 1807 St Vigor Des Mezerets, , Calvados, France Christening: Death: 20 SEP 1842 Beuville, , Calvados, France Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Jacques-François BARASSIN Pedigree Male Birth: 05 SEP 1811 Saint Vigor Des Mezerets, , Calvados, France Christening: Death: 03 FEB 1833 Misme, , , France Burial:
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AnnCardiff
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30 Jan 2009 16:34 |
Husband Bertrand NICOLE Pedigree Birth: Christening: Marriage: 16 JUL 1709 Saint Pierre La Vieille, , Calvados, France Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wife Catherine BARASSIN Pedigree Birth: Christening: Marriage: 16 JUL 1709 Saint Pierre La Vieille, , Calvados, France Death: Burial:
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sablon
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30 Jan 2009 16:38 |
thanks ann the one Jacques Barassin looks interesting as he died young could explain why Auguste's children did not know his name
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AnnCardiff
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30 Jan 2009 16:56 |
BARRASIN/Auguste/Alderney/1850-1880/ [email protected]
found this when I googled - looks interesting!!!
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AnnCardiff
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30 Jan 2009 17:01 |
1891 Channel Islands Census Census & Voter Lists View Image Name: Auguste Barassin Birth: abt 1880 - city, Guernsey, Channel Islands Residence: 1891 - township, city, Guernsey, Channel Islands
1901 Channel Islands Census Census & Voter Lists View Image Name: Auguste Barassin Birth: abt 1880 - city, Guernsey, Channel Islands Residence: 1901 - city, Guernsey, Channel Islands
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AnnCardiff
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30 Jan 2009 17:02 |
Paris, France & Vicinity Marriages, 1710-1907 (in French) Birth, Marriage & Death View Image Name: Alexandre François Barassin Spouse: Anne Marguerite Françoise Quénot Father: Francois Barassin Marriage: date Residence: date
Paris, France & Vicinity Marriages, 1710-1907 (in French) Birth, Marriage & Death View Image Name: Jacques Alexandre Barassin Spouse: Victoire Mondion Father: Jacques Barassin Marriage: date Residence: date
Paris, France & Vicinity Marriages, 1710-1907 (in French) Birth, Marriage & Death View Image Name: Jeanne Adélaïde Barassin Spouse: Auguste Prosper Audebert Father: François Barassin Marriage: date Residence: date
Paris, France & Vicinity Marriages, 1710-1907 (in French) Birth, Marriage & Death View Image Name: Jeoire Michel Adolphe Barassin Spouse: Marie Pauline Aubeau Father: Alexandre François Barassin Marriage: date
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sablon
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30 Jan 2009 18:22 |
thanks anne thats something to look into Phew
a few there that i havn't seen before thanks for that
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sablon
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31 Jan 2009 18:53 |
anne just a thought,could you see if there is an ettienne Barassin possible paris
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AnnCardiff
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31 Jan 2009 19:04 |
sorry - not an Ettienne in sight!!!!
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sablon
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31 Jan 2009 19:59 |
thanks anne
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5 Mar 2009 19:26 |
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15 Mar 2009 08:07 |
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EvieBeavie
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16 Mar 2009 01:24 |
Your edited opener, here for ref:
I HAVE NOW FOUND EVIDENCE THAT HE CHANGED HIS NAME, FATHER MAYBE JEAN FRANCOIS LE -BARBENCHON and Helen De La tour /cour from cherbourg France. So now i am seeking Auguste theodore Le Barbenchon born c 1820,any help would be welcome Please, Igi has been searched,Thankyou > on the 1841 census guernsey the name is BARBENSBIER
Well, you know you have to tell us what this evidence is you have found, that he changed his name. ;)
So ... all the Barassin searching for nowt ...
BARBENSBIER -- not at Ancestry it isn't.
Here we are. BARBENSBIN. Sort of like "bargain bin". ;)
John Barbensbin 50 - Labourer Helen Barbensbin 35 Auguste Barbensbin 20 - Tinker? Marie Barbensbin 15 Francis Barbensbin 15 - Boatm__ Pierre Barbensbin 10 - ditto Eugene Barbensbin 10 Victorie Barbensbin 2 (looks more like Victoire) Adelle Barbensbin 1 Michael Anne 10 - Boatm__
All born foreign parts but the two little ones.
I would read it as Barbensh__ maybe (les maudits anglais and their phonetic spelling).
There are BARBENSONs in Alderney and Jersey in 1841. I wonder whether they could be anglicized Barbenchons? The name is extremely rare outside the Channel Islands (e.g. about 2 dozen entries total at FreeBMD).
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EvieBeavie
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16 Mar 2009 01:27 |
Interestingly, in 1851:
(Not yours, I know; he was Barassin and with wife Désiré):
Name: Auguste Barbenson Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Where born: France Civil Parish or Township: St Peter Port Town: St Peter Port County/Island: Guernsey
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