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8 Nov 2008 08:37 |
Hi Michelle. I am trying to trace my grandfather John Francis O'Connor 14/2/1920. I believe he was from Mold, UK. I don't have much more to go on I'm afraid. My own dad Michael was born 15/5/1943 in Morcambe but he passed away 25 years ago. Perhaps his birth certificate might have more info. Many thanks. Michelle
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8 Nov 2008 10:30 |
Lily
According to the 1861 she was older than 1842 birthyear. This record on the site i use is not coming up complete so i will search the image
1861 England Census about Rachel Sampson Name: Rachel Sampson Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Head Of Family Pauper Inmate (Head) Gender: Female Where born: St James, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Shipmeadow County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Wangford Sub registration district: Beccles ED, institution, or vessel: Workhouse and Infirmary Belonging Thereto Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Rachel Sampson 22
Ok Rachel is daughter of John and Susan Sampson.Here is John and Susan and son William-he would have been Rachel's brother.
1861 England Census about John Sampson Name: John Sampson Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804 Relation: Head Of Family Pauper Inmate (Head) Gender: Male Where born: Stoven, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Shipmeadow County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Wangford Sub registration district: Beccles ED, institution, or vessel: Workhouse and Infirmary Belonging Thereto Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age John Sampson 57 Susan Sampson 51 Wm Sampson 12
1861 England Census about Susan Sampson Name: Susan Sampson Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810 Relation: Wife Pauper Inmate (Pauper) Gender: Female Where born: Ditchingham, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Shipmeadow County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Wangford Sub registration district: Beccles ED, institution, or vessel: Workhouse and Infirmary Belonging Thereto Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age John Sampson 57 Susan Sampson 51 Wm Sampson 12
1861 England Census about Wm Sampson Name: Wm Sampson Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Son Pauper Inmate (Pauper) Gender: Male Where born: Homersfield, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Shipmeadow County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Wangford Sub registration district: Beccles ED, institution, or vessel: Workhouse and Infirmary Belonging Thereto Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age John Sampson 57 Susan Sampson 51 Wm Sampson 12
Here is another family member showing on this census record.Is poss this is John and Susan's son or poss that Rachel has this son(out of wedlock?)
1861 England Census about Jas Sampson Name: Jas Sampson Age: 2 Mo Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Son Head Of Family Pauper Inmate (Head) Gender: Male Where born: Shipmeadow Workhouse, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Shipmeadow County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Wangford Sub registration district: Beccles ED, institution, or vessel: Workhouse and Infirmary Belonging Thereto Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Jas Sampson 2 Mo
and there is also this girl
1861 England Census about Mary Ann Sampson Name: Mary Ann Sampson Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Daughter Head Of Family Pauper Inmate (Head) Gender: Female Where born: Shipmeadow Workhouse, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Shipmeadow County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Wangford Sub registration district: Beccles ED, institution, or vessel: Workhouse and Infirmary Belonging Thereto Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Mary Ann Sampson 2
again poss that this girl is daughter of John and Susan or Rachel. On the census image Rachel is a Silk Weaver and Mary Ann is listed as daughter of her. John listed as a Ag Lab No address is listed.
I will look for the 1851 and look at the 1871 to determine the relationship of these children to Rachel.This is a very confused census image and not clear the relationships.
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8 Nov 2008 10:33 |
Lilly
On the 1851 Rachel is listed as 1836 birthyear.
1851 England Census about Susan Sampson Name: Susan Sampson Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Ditchingham, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Homersfield County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Wangford Sub registration district: Bungay ED, institution, or vessel: 10a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 57 Household Members: Name Age James Sampson 13 John Sampson 10 Rachel Sampson 15 Susan Sampson 42 William Sampson 3
1851 England Census about Rachel Sampson Name: Rachel Sampson Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Susan Gender: Female Where born: St James, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Homersfield County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Wangford Sub registration district: Bungay ED, institution, or vessel: 10a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 57 Household Members: Name Age James Sampson 13 John Sampson 10 Rachel Sampson 15 Susan Sampson 42 William Sampson 3
1851 England Census about James Sampson Name: James Sampson Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Susan Gender: Male Where born: St James, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Homersfield County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Wangford Sub registration district: Bungay ED, institution, or vessel: 10a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 57 Household Members: Name Age James Sampson 13 John Sampson 10 Rachel Sampson 15 Susan Sampson 42 William Sampson 3
1851 England Census about John Sampson Name: John Sampson Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Susan Gender: Male Where born: St James, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Homersfield County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Wangford Sub registration district: Bungay ED, institution, or vessel: 10a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 57 Household Members: Name Age James Sampson 13 John Sampson 10 Rachel Sampson 15 Susan Sampson 42 William Sampson 3
1851 England Census about William Sampson Name: William Sampson Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Susan Gender: Male Where born: Homersfield, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Homersfield County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Wangford Sub registration district: Bungay ED, institution, or vessel: 10a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 57 Household Members: Name Age James Sampson 13 John Sampson 10 Rachel Sampson 15 Susan Sampson 42 William Sampson 3
Susan Ag Labs Wife
Address on top of this page on the image is Heath Farm
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8 Nov 2008 10:38 |
Lilly
Poss birth record for Mary Ann
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about Mary Ann Sampson Name: Mary Ann Sampson Year of Registration: 1858 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Wangford County: Suffolk Volume: 4a Page: 676 (click to see others on page) On the 1871 Mary Ann is listed as daughter of Rachel
1871 England Census about Rachel Sampson Name: Rachel Sampson Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: St James, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Bungay Holy Trinity Town: Bungay County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Wangford Sub registration district: Bungay ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 53 Household Members: Name Age Fredrick Sampson 4 Mary A Sampson 13 Rachel Sampson 29
1871 England Census about Mary A Sampson Name: Mary A Sampson Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Rachel Gender: Female Where born: Shipmeadow, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Bungay Holy Trinity Town: Bungay County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Wangford Sub registration district: Bungay ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 53 Household Members: Name Age Fredrick Sampson 4 Mary A Sampson 13 Rachel Sampson 29
1871 England Census about Fredrick Sampson Name: Fredrick Sampson Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Rachel Gender: Male Where born: Shipmeadow, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Bungay Holy Trinity Town: Bungay County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Wangford Sub registration district: Bungay ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 53 Household Members: Name Age Fredrick Sampson 4 Mary A Sampson 13 Rachel Sampson 29
Rachel Works on the Farm Address Gus House Lane
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8 Nov 2008 10:44 |
Hello Michelle, thank you for the look up of the 1861, you weren't kidding about it being confusing were you lol?,,,,I do know that Mary Ann Sampson was this Rachel Sampson daughter, so that helps to sort it a bit......the rest like you said, will take a while to sort out, seems that they had a hard life during that period of time. I would be interested if you could find anything on the 1851, I think Rachel had two children,(Mary ann and a Frederick) out of wedlock speak soon, if you have any more luck!!.....thank you lol.....Lilly
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8 Nov 2008 10:48 |
You are to quick for me,,!! lol , what a lot you have found....I am sure once I have had a good look, you will have answered many a question for me, aren't these census wonderful lol.....thank you so much for all of your help and time....Lilly
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8 Nov 2008 11:11 |
Helene
Hi there.I am just having a look at your now.I just wanted to check something with you.I have this 1891 census record which looks like your Henry with the details you gave me.However he is married to an Ann(i presume this is the Annie you mentioned?) and her birthyear is not 1830.Here is Henry and Ann's records on that census.I presume you have this census as you mentioned the 7 children?
1891 England Census about Henry Freeborn Name: Henry Freeborn Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows (Bow Common) Town: Bromley County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Poplar Sub registration district: Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ada Freeborn 6/12 Albert Freeborn 5 Ann Freeborn 35 Celia Freeborn 10 Ernest Freeborn 3 Gertrude Freeborn 11 Henry Freeborn 35 Maud Freeborn 9 Rose Freeborn 6 George Ward 40
1891 England Census about Ann Freeborn Name: Ann Freeborn Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Henry Gender: Female Where born: Bromley, London, England Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows (Bow Common) Town: Bromley County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Poplar Sub registration district: Bromley ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ada Freeborn 6/12 Albert Freeborn 5 Ann Freeborn 35 Celia Freeborn 10 Ernest Freeborn 3 Gertrude Freeborn 11 Henry Freeborn 35 Maud Freeborn 9 Rose Freeborn 6 George Ward 40
So if you could confirm this is the Annie you are interested in i will try and find some info on her.
Michelle
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8 Nov 2008 11:36 |
Susan
here is the marriage record
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Doris M Baldwin Name: Doris M Baldwin Year of Registration: 1926 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Spouse's Surname: Gaunt District: West Bromwich County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6b Page: 1621 (click to see others on page)
I think this could be her poss birth
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about Doris Mary Baldwin Name: Doris Mary Baldwin Year of Registration: 1903 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: West Bromwich County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire Volume: 6b Page: 929 (click to see others on page)
Although the death record says she was born around 1898?
There are no Doris M Baldwin's listed in birth records for 1898-1900 it is poss she was recorded without her middle name?
To get further with this you will need to obtain the marriage cert this will show her father's name and her age at marriage and occupation of her father and also witness names-which sometimes can help with tracing a person on the records. You can order online certs from www.gro.gov.uk for a cost of £7 per cert.
Once you obtain the cert will can take another look and if no luck then obtain the birth cert above to see if father's name matches the marriage record info.
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8 Nov 2008 12:08 |
Louise
Here is his birth record
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about Thomas William Viccars Name: Thomas William Viccars Year of Registration: 1842 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Buckingham County: Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire Volume: 6 Page: 346 (click to see others on page)
Ok well i have located him on the census records and here are census records with his children on.The 1871 is under a transcript error on the surname but all children and dates match the 1881
1871 England Census about Thomas W Viccaro Name: Thomas W Viccaro Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Shoreditch Sub registration district: Hoxton New Town ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91 Household Members: Name Age John Viccaro 7 Mary A Viccaro 31 Mary J Viccaro 9 Sarah E Viccaro 3 Thomas W Viccaro 29 Thomas W Viccaro 6
1871 England Census about Mary A Viccaro Name: Mary A Viccaro Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas W Gender: Female Where born: Fritwell, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Shoreditch Sub registration district: Hoxton New Town ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91 Household Members: Name Age John Viccaro 7 Mary A Viccaro 31 Mary J Viccaro 9 Sarah E Viccaro 3 Thomas W Viccaro 29 Thomas W Viccaro 6
1871 England Census about Mary J Viccaro Name: Mary J Viccaro Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas W Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Female Where born: Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Shoreditch Sub registration district: Hoxton New Town ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91 Household Members: Name Age John Viccaro 7 Mary A Viccaro 31 Mary J Viccaro 9 Sarah E Viccaro 3 Thomas W Viccaro 29 Thomas W Viccaro 6
1871 England Census about John Viccaro Name: John Viccaro Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas W Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Shoreditch Sub registration district: Hoxton New Town ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91 Household Members: Name Age John Viccaro 7 Mary A Viccaro 31 Mary J Viccaro 9 Sarah E Viccaro 3 Thomas W Viccaro 29 Thomas W Viccaro 6
1871 England Census about Thomas W Viccaro Name: Thomas W Viccaro Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas W Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Shoreditch Sub registration district: Hoxton New Town ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91 Household Members: Name Age John Viccaro 7 Mary A Viccaro 31 Mary J Viccaro 9 Sarah E Viccaro 3 Thomas W Viccaro 29 Thomas W Viccaro 6
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8 Nov 2008 12:10 |
Louise
1871 Continued...
1871 England Census about Sarah E Viccaro Name: Sarah E Viccaro Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas W Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Female Where born: London, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Shoreditch Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: London County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Shoreditch Sub registration district: Hoxton New Town ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91 Household Members: Name Age John Viccaro 7 Mary A Viccaro 31 Mary J Viccaro 9 Sarah E Viccaro 3 Thomas W Viccaro 29 Thomas W Viccaro 6
Thomas an Engineer at a Factory
Address 34 Shaftesbury Street
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8 Nov 2008 12:18 |
Louise
Here is Thomas's death
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about Thomas William Viccars Name: Thomas William Viccars Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Year of Registration: 1873 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 30 District: Shoreditch County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 73 (click to see others on page)
by the 1881 the family had returned to Buckinghamshire
1881 England Census about Mary A. Viccars Name: Mary A. Viccars Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Fritwell, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address: Hunter Street Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower) Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Laundress Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert B. Howard 29 John Viccars 17 Mary A. Viccars 41 Mary J. Viccars 19 Sarah E. Viccars 13 Thomas W. Viccars 16
1881 England Census about Mary J. Viccars Name: Mary J. Viccars Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Mary A. Gender: Female Where born: Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address: Hunter Street Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Dressmaker Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert B. Howard 29 John Viccars 17 Mary A. Viccars 41 Mary J. Viccars 19 Sarah E. Viccars 13 Thomas W. Viccars 16
1881 England Census about Mary J. Viccars Name: Mary J. Viccars Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Mary A. Gender: Female Where born: Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address: Hunter Street Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Dressmaker Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert B. Howard 29 John Viccars 17 Mary A. Viccars 41 Mary J. Viccars 19 Sarah E. Viccars 13 Thomas W. Viccars 16
1881 England Census about John Viccars Name: John Viccars Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Mary A. Gender: Male Where born: Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address: Hunter Street Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Saddler Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert B. Howard 29 John Viccars 17 Mary A. Viccars 41 Mary J. Viccars 19 Sarah E. Viccars 13 Thomas W. Viccars 16
1881 England Census about Thomas W. Viccars Name: Thomas W. Viccars Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Mary A. Gender: Male Where born: Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address: Hunter Street Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Cabinet Maker Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert B. Howard 29 John Viccars 17 Mary A. Viccars 41 Mary J. Viccars 19 Sarah E. Viccars 13 Thomas W. Viccars 16
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8 Nov 2008 12:20 |
Louise
1881 Continued...
1881 England Census about Sarah E. Viccars Name: Sarah E. Viccars Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Mary A. Gender: Female Where born: Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address: Hunter Street Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert B. Howard 29 John Viccars 17 Mary A. Viccars 41 Mary J. Viccars 19 Sarah E. Viccars 13 Thomas W. Viccars 16
1881 England Census about Robert B. Howard Name: Robert B. Howard Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Fritwell, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address: Hunter Street Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Coachman (Dom Serv) Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert B. Howard 29 John Viccars 17 Mary A. Viccars 41 Mary J. Viccars 19 Sarah E. Viccars 13 Thomas W. Viccars 16
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8 Nov 2008 12:27 |
Louise
Mary Ann now a Widow remarried in 1886
Thomas Treen 1886 Buckingham Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire View Record Mary Anne Viccars 1886 Buckingham Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Mary Anne Viccars Name: Mary Anne Viccars Year of Registration: 1886 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Buckingham County: Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 995 (click to see others on page
The 1891 we see her staying with her daughter Mary Jane who is now married
1891 England Census about Thomas William Gibling Name: Thomas William Gibling Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Jane Gender: Male Where born: Cattawade, Essex, England Civil Parish: Buckingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul Town: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Newport Pagnell Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Jane Gibling 29 Robert Gibling 2 Thomas William Gibling 30 Thomas William Gibling 5 Mary Ann Treen 51 Ann Viccaro 63
1891 England Census about Mary Jane Gibling Name: Mary Jane Gibling [Mary Jane Treen] Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas William Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Female Where born: Buckingham, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul Town: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Newport Pagnell Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Jane Gibling 29 Robert Gibling 2 Thomas William Gibling 30 Thomas William Gibling 5 Mary Ann Treen 51 Ann Viccaro 63
1891 England Census about Thomas William Gibling Name: Thomas William Gibling Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas William Mother's Name: Mary Jane Gender: Male Where born: Buckingham, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul Town: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Newport Pagnell Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Jane Gibling 29 Robert Gibling 2 Thomas William Gibling 30 Thomas William Gibling 5 Mary Ann Treen 51 Ann Viccaro 63
1891 England Census about Robert Gibling Name: Robert Gibling Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas William Mother's Name: Mary Jane Gender: Male Where born: Buckingham, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul Town: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Newport Pagnell Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Jane Gibling 29 Robert Gibling 2 Thomas William Gibling 30 Thomas William Gibling 5 Mary Ann Treen 51 Ann Viccaro 63
1891 England Census about Mary Ann Treen Name: Mary Ann Treen Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Mother-in-law Gender: Female Where born: Fritwell, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul Town: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Newport Pagnell Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Jane Gibling 29 Robert Gibling 2 Thomas William Gibling 30 Thomas William Gibling 5 Mary Ann Treen 51 Ann Viccaro 63
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8 Nov 2008 12:29 |
Louise
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1891 England Census about Ann Viccaro Name: Ann Viccaro Age: 63 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relation: Wife's Aunt (Aunt) Gender: Female Where born: Northants, Brackley Civil Parish: Buckingham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul Town: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Newport Pagnell Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Jane Gibling 29 Robert Gibling 2 Thomas William Gibling 30 Thomas William Gibling 5 Mary Ann Treen 51 Ann Viccaro 63
Thomas William a Baker Mary Ann is still married Ann the Aunt is single
Address 9 Manor Street
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8 Nov 2008 12:35 |
Louise
1901 for Mary with her 2nd husband Thomas
1901 England Census about Thos Treen Name: Thos Treen Age: 64 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Stoke, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Camberwell Sub registration district: Peckham ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 104 Household Members: Name Age Mary A Treen 60 Thos Treen 64
1901 England Census about Mary A Treen Name: Mary A Treen Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thos Gender: Female Where born: Fritwell, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Camberwell Sub registration district: Peckham ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 104 Household Members: Name Age Mary A Treen 60 Thos Treen 64
Thomas a Steam Engine Fitter Address 86 Lucard Street
Poss death for Mary
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about Mary A Treen Name: Mary A Treen Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Year of Registration: 1917 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 77 District: Camberwell County: Greater London, London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 851 (click to see others on page)
Hope that has all helped in your search
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8 Nov 2008 12:43 |
Louise
Now to the parents.....I will start with Mary here she is on the 1861 with her family
1861 England Census about Robert Howard Name: Robert Howard Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Bradley, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Eliza A Howard 23 Jane Howard 50 Mary Ann Howard 21 Richard Howard 25 Robert Howard 50 Robert B Howard 11 Sarah Howard 17 Thomas W Howard 19 William H Howard 15
1861 England Census about Jane Howard Name: Jane Howard Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Gender: Female Where born: Bradley, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Eliza A Howard 23 Jane Howard 50 Mary Ann Howard 21 Richard Howard 25 Robert Howard 50 Robert B Howard 11 Sarah Howard 17 Thomas W Howard 19 William H Howard 15
1861 England Census about Richard Howard Name: Richard Howard Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Fritwell, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Eliza A Howard 23 Jane Howard 50 Mary Ann Howard 21 Richard Howard 25 Robert Howard 50 Robert B Howard 11 Sarah Howard 17 Thomas W Howard 19 William H Howard 15
1861 England Census about Eliza A Howard Name: Eliza A Howard Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Female Where born: Fritwell, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Eliza A Howard 23 Jane Howard 50 Mary Ann Howard 21 Richard Howard 25 Robert Howard 50 Robert B Howard 11 Sarah Howard 17 Thomas W Howard 19 William H Howard 15
1861 England Census about Mary Ann Howard Name: Mary Ann Howard Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Female Where born: Fritwell, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Eliza A Howard 23 Jane Howard 50 Mary Ann Howard 21 Richard Howard 25 Robert Howard 50 Robert B Howard 11 Sarah Howard 17 Thomas W Howard 19 William H Howard 15
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8 Nov 2008 12:47 |
Louise
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1861 England Census about Thomas W Howard Name: Thomas W Howard Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Fritwell, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Eliza A Howard 23 Jane Howard 50 Mary Ann Howard 21 Richard Howard 25 Robert Howard 50 Robert B Howard 11 Sarah Howard 17 Thomas W Howard 19 William H Howard 15
1861 England Census about Sarah Howard Name: Sarah Howard Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Female Where born: Fritwell, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Eliza A Howard 23 Jane Howard 50 Mary Ann Howard 21 Richard Howard 25 Robert Howard 50 Robert B Howard 11 Sarah Howard 17 Thomas W Howard 19 William H Howard 15
1861 England Census about William H Howard Name: William H Howard Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Fritwell, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Eliza A Howard 23 Jane Howard 50 Mary Ann Howard 21 Richard Howard 25 Robert Howard 50 Robert B Howard 11 Sarah Howard 17 Thomas W Howard 19 William H Howard 15
1861 England Census about Robert B Howard Name: Robert B Howard Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Fritwell, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Eliza A Howard 23 Jane Howard 50 Mary Ann Howard 21 Richard Howard 25 Robert Howard 50 Robert B Howard 11 Sarah Howard 17 Thomas W Howard 19 William H Howard 15
Robert and Richard were Cordwainer's
Address Church Lane
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8 Nov 2008 12:52 |
Louise
Now to Thomas W Viccars and his family
1861 England Census about John Viccars Name: John Viccars Age: 61 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Beackley, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 14 Household Members: Name Age John Viccars 61 Thomas Viccars 19
1861 England Census about Thomas Viccars Name: Thomas Viccars Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Gender: Male Where born: Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Buckingham ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 14 Household Members: Name Age John Viccars 61 Thomas Viccars 19
John a Widower and a Shepherd Thomas a Engineer
Address Woolpack Lane
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8 Nov 2008 13:04 |
Louise
Looks like John father of Thomas William(1842) died in 1870
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about John Viccars Name: John Viccars Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800 Year of Registration: 1870 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 70 District: Buckingham County: Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 347 (click to see others on page)
I believe this is the mother of Thomas W and she died in 1861 just before the 1861 census was taken
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about Mary Viccars Name: Mary Viccars Year of Registration: 1861 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Buckingham County: Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 340 (click to see others on page)
Here is the 1851 of the family and again mistranscibed!
1851 England Census about John Viccaro Name: John Viccaro Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Brenchley, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham Ecclesiastical parish: Prebend End Town: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Leckhampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 3f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 139 Household Members: Name Age Ann Viccaro 24 Caroline Viccaro 17 Jane M Viccaro 13 John Viccaro 50 John G Viccaro 11 Mary Viccaro 51 Thomas W Viccaro 8
1851 England Census about Mary Viccaro Name: Mary Viccaro Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Gender: Female Where born: Culworth, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham Ecclesiastical parish: Prebend End Town: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Leckhampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 3f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 139 Household Members: Name Age Ann Viccaro 24 Caroline Viccaro 17 Jane M Viccaro 13 John Viccaro 50 John G Viccaro 11 Mary Viccaro 51 Thomas W Viccaro 8
1851 England Census about Ann Viccaro Name: Ann Viccaro Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Bruckley, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham Ecclesiastical parish: Prebend End Town: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Leckhampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 3f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 139 Household Members: Name Age Ann Viccaro 24 Caroline Viccaro 17 Jane M Viccaro 13 John Viccaro 50 John G Viccaro 11 Mary Viccaro 51 Thomas W Viccaro 8
1851 England Census about Caroline Viccaro Name: Caroline Viccaro Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Buckingham, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham Ecclesiastical parish: Prebend End Town: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Leckhampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 3f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 139 Household Members: Name Age Ann Viccaro 24 Caroline Viccaro 17 Jane M Viccaro 13 John Viccaro 50 John G Viccaro 11 Mary Viccaro 51 Thomas W Viccaro 8
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8 Nov 2008 13:12 |
Louise
1851 Continued....
1851 England Census about Jane M Viccaro Name: Jane M Viccaro Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Buckingham, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham Ecclesiastical parish: Prebend End Town: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Leckhampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 3f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 139 Household Members: Name Age Ann Viccaro 24 Caroline Viccaro 17 Jane M Viccaro 13 John Viccaro 50 John G Viccaro 11 Mary Viccaro 51 Thomas W Viccaro 8
1851 England Census about John G Viccaro Name: John G Viccaro Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Buckingham, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham Ecclesiastical parish: Prebend End Town: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Leckhampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 3f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 139 Household Members: Name Age Ann Viccaro 24 Caroline Viccaro 17 Jane M Viccaro 13 John Viccaro 50 John G Viccaro 11 Mary Viccaro 51 Thomas W Viccaro 8
1851 England Census about Thomas W Viccaro Name: Thomas W Viccaro Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Buckingham, Buckinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Buckingham Ecclesiastical parish: Prebend End Town: Buckingham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Buckingham Sub registration district: Leckhampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 3f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 139 Household Members: Name Age Ann Viccaro 24 Caroline Viccaro 17 Jane M Viccaro 13 John Viccaro 50 John G Viccaro 11 Mary Viccaro 51 Thomas W Viccaro 8
John a Butcher
Address Bridge Street
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