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JUDITH
2/8/1890 Bicester George Cartwright 25 yr bachelor Labourer of St John's Street son of Joseph a labourer
Sarah Knowles 23 yrs widow of this parish daughter of Michael a labourer, married by Banns witnesses G. Cartwright, Sarah Ellen Cartwright

Baptism in Bicester of
10/8/1888 Knowles. Elizabeth daughter of Charles and Sarah. Soldier, Windsor.
This above is exactly as the transcript reads. Please bear it in mind for a while.
I looked for a marriage for Charles Knowles and a Sarah, but there were a few and of course there was no maiden name for Sarah, only her father's christian name, no good for a marriage index record.
So I looked in the 1881 census for a Sarah, with a father Michael who had lived in Marsh Gibbon Bucks.
Here is the entry I found you will find it 1881 Stratton Audley district 7 living at Pool Farm.
Michael Parker a Ploughman born 1834 Marsh Gibbon
wife Elizabeth born 1837 Marsh Gibbon
children
Joseph 1863 Marsh Gibbon
Thomas 1865 Marsh Gibbon
Sarah 1867 ditto
John 1869 ditto
Elizabeth 1871 ditto
Henry 1873 ditto
Louisa 1875 ditto
Frederick baptised 9/3/1879 Stratton Audley
Sarah Jane baptised 8/8/1880 Stratton Audley
Now this is all very straightforward but there is another baptism which may have a bearing on the baptism of Elizabeth Knowles in 1888 daughter of Charles Knowles and Sarah, please look back at it
23/7/1891 Ralph WINDSOR Parker son of Harry William and Blanch Jane. COLONEL . of Caversfield..
so perhaps there is a military joining up of the Parkers and Knowles'
I found it interesting.
You may now be able to find the marriage of Sarah Parker born 1867 Marsh Gibbon daughter of Michael Parker to
Charles Knowles c 1887 they did not marry in Stratton Audley, nor Bicester.
Hope you find this as interesting as I did. Sorry if you would have preferred to have done the census lookup yourself, but I got carried away. Margaret

Margaret,

many thanks for the very interesting information, looking up the census was fine by me, (especially as I spent a whole week once looking for one person and her name both christian and surname spelt differently on all, thank goodness she had other family members) Unfortunately I now live out of the area of Oxfordshire/Berkshire where most of my ancestors were so no access to local records office.

Regards
Judith

Margaret,

How usual/unusual is it to have 2 living daughters with the same name albeit one had Jane as a middle name. no luck yet with the marriage of Sarah & Charles.

Judith

JUDITH
I came across it once before, when the first son was born illegitimately, but was known by his father's surname. They baptised him later than his legitimate brother of the same christian name who inheritied the farm.
Perhaps your Sarah Jane, was always called that, but on a later census she is known as Sarah when she is housekeeper to her father who is a widower. Perhaps they pronounced the names differently, Saree, Sarah, Sarah Jane.
Both Sarahs appear on the same 1881 census as children of the parents, so it seems quite odd but true.

Thanks Margaret, did you have any luck with my other request about the George's marriages in Bicester.

JUDITH
Sorry George 1821 did not marry in Bicester. You will need to go through the census to find out a bit more about where he is living and where his wife is from to be able to find their marriage place.

Hi Margaret Rose if you would be so kind to look up a birht of Jane Ball abt 1726 Crowell Oxford, she married Thomas Britnell 1751 and she died 1758
Regards,June

JUNE sorry no baptism for Jane Ball in any of the Thame parishes, which include Crowell. Her marriage was 11/4/1751 Crowell, but only the baptism of
Elizabeth 22/2/1752
26/8/1754 Jonah
17/10/1756 John in Crowell.
There was a baptism for a Jana Hall 24/9/1727 in Stokenchurch daughter of Evardi, probably should have been Edvardi, so if that is a mis transcription so could the Hall be, as there are no other Halls until 1800.

Thank you for this, she had a brother Henry whose birth also I cannot find.
Kind regards,June

Hi Margaret Thank you Sandy

Margaret,
George Hunt 1821 was married to Ann c1824 who came from Littlemore Oxon, its her surname I am trying to find.

is it possible for you to confirm for me that Thomas Hunt c1754 married Sarah Eyres cl759 both of Bicester, someone has now put forward the name Ayriss.

With thanks Judith

Margaret,
Sorry I already asked about Ayriss/Eyres way back last year and you did give me the answer.

Judith

Hi Margaret Rose

Can you please see if you can find the baptism record for
William Gillett c1818 --

he state he place of birth ( on his Army Record ) as Parish of birth: Sarsden Town of birth: Chipping Norton - on the 1881 census he states Churchill -- 1871 census Chipping Norton

On his married cert he states Fathers Name as William Gillett - Farmer

I have a thread
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/gillette%20-%20%20francis%20william%201906%20believed%20yorkshir/thread/1222796?d=desc

That url looks very odd --

it is on TTF Board -- Gillette ( the final E was added in 1936 )


Many Thanks

Irene

JUDITH, sorry George Hunt did not marry in Littlemore, the marriages began there in 1847, before that they were recorded in St Mary the Virgin in Oxford, not there, also in Iffley, not there.

Margaret

Many thanks, I guess its back to the drawing board and the 'Hunt' goes on.

Regards Judith

IRENE William Gillett married 22/3/1815 Sarsden to Susanna Partlett
on the 1851 census he says he was from Oddington but there is no baptism for him in Oddington, she says she was from Sarsden but there is no baptism for her there.They baptised in Sarsden the following children
William 1/3/1818 bp Sarsden
John24/6/1821 Sarsden born in Churchill buried in Sarsden 9/4/1836 aged 14 yrs
Sarah 7/11/1824 Sarsden of Churchill, married in Sarsden 27/9/1849 spinster servant daughter of William a bailiff to Richard Stark full age bachelor gardener son of Richard a labourer
Phoebe 12/3/1826 Sarsden of Churchill, she married 23/12/1845 in Churchill she was aged 19 yrs daughter of William a bailiff to James Harris a full age bachelor labourer son of Job a labourer there is a child Mary Harris born 1847 a grandaughter staying with William and Susanna born 1847 Chadlington, there are a number of Gilletts baptised in Chadlington post 1862.
Joseph baptised 15/11/1829
Mary 15/7/1832
Robert 22/1834
There is a tree on Ancestry which has an incorrect marriage for Phoebe.
On the 1851 William Gillett and Susanna are living in Worcestershire in Evenlode he is a farmer of 70 acres employing 2 men.
Sorry can go back no further, I think they came in from Gloucestershire, so I cannot help.

Margaret


Yippee wowee hurrah -Well done - thank you so much

Oh that's so great - I will cut and paste to my thread

THANK YOU THANK YOU


Irene in Spaiin

IRENE
Partlett baptisms in Charlbury
Mary 4/7/1784 daughter of William and Eliz of Finstock
Jane 3/10/1788 dtr Wm and Eliz of Finstock
Henry 18/7/1792 son of Henry and Eliz of Finstock
Susanna 22/6/1796 dtr William and Eliz of Finstock
James 20/1/1804 son of William and Martha of Finstock
William 30/4/1806 son of William and Martha of Finstock
John 25/11/1808 son of William and Martha of finstock

BURIALS
Jane 15/3/1787 dtr William and Eliz pauper of Finstock
Jane 30/5/1790 dtr of William and Eliz of Finstock
William 11/10/1807 of Finstock
Mary aged 40 yrs 21/7/1821 of Finstock
Elizabeth aged 70 yrs 2/10/1826 of Finstock
William aged 32 yrs 5/7/1838 of Finstock

MARRIAGES CHARLBURY
William Hide of St Giles Oxford city
Mary Partlett of Finstock in this parish by License
9/11/1802

William Partlett
Martha Painton by Banns 25/2/1803

Robert Prophet of Finstock
Martha Partlett by Banns 7/10/1817

Hope this helps.

IRENE
marriage for Lilian Ellen Stroud to Albert J Woodward in Woodstock 1924 is too late for my transcripts
Lilian Ellen Stroud was baptised 12/4/1903 dtr James William Harold Stroud a glover and Maud in Woodstock

I wonder if you could do some lookups around the Enstone area for Chadbon (aka Chadbun and Chadbone)
I have a Robert Chadbon born c1775, he married Ann and they had at least 4 children - Thomas 1808, Robert 1813, John 1816 and Daniel 1821. The age gaps suggest there are others.
Would be very grateful for anything pre 1837 that you can find.

Lynne