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Can you trace this elusive family?

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GW

GW Report 21 Sep 2008 12:57

Maybe it's me being stupid or maybe I have been looking too long but for some reason I can not find this family on the census records after 1851. If anyone can help in tracing any of them.

I know John is married to a wife Elizabeth by 1871 (can not trace marriage record though) and he is living in Ealing.

Here is the family looking for, for reference:

Harriet Hodge
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William H
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: St John

Household schedule number: 2
Household Members:
Elizabeth Hodge 8
Harriet Hodge 5
Jane Hodge 42
Jane Hodge 13
John Hodge 4
William Hodge 11
William H Hodge 48

Thanks Gary

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 21 Sep 2008 13:02

Possible:

1861 census transcription details for: 8, Victoria Place, St Marylebone
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09 Piece: 87 Folio: 35 Page: 69

Reg. District: Marylebone Sub District: 6 St John
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: Christchurch
Parish: St Marylebone City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 8, Victoria Place, St Marylebone
County: London, Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
HODGE, William H Head Widower M 52 1809 Paper Hanger
Middlesex
HODGE, Thomas Son Unmarried M 15 1846
Middlesex
HODGE, Harriett Daughter Unmarried F 15 1846
Nottingham
BERKER, Eliza Visitor Unmarried F 30 1831
Nottingham

GW

GW Report 21 Sep 2008 13:06

Ooohh thank you Lost for Words, wonder where the son Thomas came from though as have no record of him?

This is 1871 census for John, who then remarried a second time by 1891.

Name: John Hodge
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Ealing
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Ealing
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Brentford
Sub registration district: Brentford

Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Hodge 23
John Hodge 25
John Hodge 3

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 21 Sep 2008 13:14

This guy seems to have memory problems, lol

1871 census transcription details for: Park Cottages, Hammersmith
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10 Piece: 66 Folio: 48 Page: 36

Reg. District: Kensington Sub District: St Paul Hammersmith
Enum. District: 28 Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: Hammersmith City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Park Cottages, Hammersmith
County: London, Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation, Where Born
HODGE, William H Head M 61 1810 Wales
HODGE, Eliza Wife F 51 1820 Nottinghamshire


Occupation paper hanger. Did he marry Eliza Berker

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 21 Sep 2008 13:15

Umm ???

Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%)
Austin Emma St.Geo.H.Sq. 1a 497
>>> Birkin Eliza St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 497
>>> Hodge William H St. Geo.H.Sq 1a 497
PHILLP George St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 497

GW

GW Report 21 Sep 2008 13:20

Ooohh lost for words your are good! Thank you.

No wonder I can not trace him with all this differing information he keeps giving.

LOL now just to work out if the kids other then John married.

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 21 Sep 2008 13:21

Possible

1881 census transcription details for: "fulham Union Workhouse" Hammersmith Rd, Fulham
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 74 Folio: 53 Page: 1

Reg. District: Fulham Sub District: Fulham
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: Fulham City/Municipal Borough:
Address: "fulham Union Workhouse" Hammersmith Rd, Fulham
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born

HODGE, Wm Henry Inmate Widower M 71 1810 House Decorator
London
Middlesex

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 21 Sep 2008 13:26

Deaths Jun 1888 (>99%)
HODGE William Henry 77 Fulham 1a 189

GW

GW Report 21 Sep 2008 13:27

Wow, thank you lost for words, that is my gggg grandfather located now, which is great help. Thank you.

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 21 Sep 2008 13:45

1841 census transcription details for: Park Street, St Marylebone, Marylebone
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 677 Book/Folio: 14/19 Page: 30

Reg. District: St Marylebone Sub District: Christ Church
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: St Marylebone City/Municipal Borough: Marylebone
Address: Park Street, St Marylebone, Marylebone
County: Middlesex
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation, Where Born
HODGE, William M 30 1811 Middlesex
HODGE, Jane F 34 1807 Middlesex
HODGE, Jane F 4 1837 Middlesex
HODGE, William M 2 1839 Middlesex
HODGE, Elizabeth F 0 (6 months) 1841 Middlesex

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 21 Sep 2008 13:49

These might help with the marriages, middle names are always good :-)

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles

JANE SARAH HODGE Female

Event(s):
Birth: 22 MAR 1837
Christening: 23 JUL 1837 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM HENRY HODGE
Mother: JANE

Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C047933 1833 - 1834 0598164 Film 6900163 Film
C047933 1834 - 1838 0598165 Film NONE
C047933 1838 - 1839 0598166 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 21 Sep 2008 13:50

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles

WILLIAM HENRY HODGE Male

Event(s):
Birth: 29 SEP 1838
Christening: 05 NOV 1838 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM HENRY HODGE
Mother: JANE

Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C047933 1833 - 1834 0598164 Film 6900163 Film
C047933 1834 - 1838 0598165 Film NONE
C047933 1838 - 1839 0598166 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 21 Sep 2008 13:52

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles

ELIZABETH SARAH HODGE Female

Event(s):
Birth: 20 DEC 1840
Christening: 18 JAN 1841 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM HENRY HODGE
Mother: JANE

Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C035248 1825 - 1831 0580912 Film 6903614 Film
C035248 1832 - 1841 0580913 Film NONE
C035248 1842 - 1844 0580914 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 21 Sep 2008 13:55

Marriages Sep 1862 (>99%)
Baldwin Jane Marylebone 1a 827
Hodge Jane Sarah Marylebone 1a 827
Powell George Marylebone 1a 827
Scriven Joseph Marylebone 1a 827

GW

GW Report 21 Sep 2008 13:56

Thank you lost for words.

Think Eliza died in 1873, death registered in Kensington (covers Hammersmith), although birth year has been put as 1812.

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 21 Sep 2008 14:04

Hi GW

Well if William was giving the info !!! perhaps he couldn't remember, lol :-)

LfW

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 21 Sep 2008 14:07

This one doesn't prove anything as both spouses were Janes.

1871 census transcription details for: Wilton Mews, Hammersmith
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10 Piece: 66 Folio: 26 Page: 48

Reg. District: Kensington Sub District:
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: Hammersmith City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Wilton Mews, Hammersmith
County: London, Middlesex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation, Where Born
SCRIVENS, Joseph Head M 30 1841 Middlesex
SCRIVENS, Jane Wife F 32 1839 Middlesex
SCRIVENS, Rose Daughter F 7 1864 Middlesex
SCRIVENS, Benjamin Son M 3 1868 Middlesex

GW

GW Report 21 Sep 2008 14:11

LOL very true!!

You are way better on this one then me, you keep finding things, thank you. I knew I needed someone else's help and luckily you took up the request.

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 21 Sep 2008 14:30

They all seem to have gone into hiding!!!

This *could* be Williams birth

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 baptism
Day: 30
Month: April
Year: 1809
Forename: William
Othernames: Henry
Surname: Hodges
Fathers forenames: John
Fathers occupation: Currier
Mothers forenames: Elizabeth
Birth date: 17/11/1808
Address: Willow Walk
Location of church: Bermondsey
Parish: St Mary Magdalen
Church address: Bermondsey Street
Entry No:
Source Ref: X097/224
Transcriber Note:
Original Note :
Record source: Docklands Ancestors
Data provider: Docklands Ancestors Ltd
Transcriptions © Docklands Ancestors Ltd

GW

GW Report 21 Sep 2008 14:33

Yes this was why I struggled finding them before, except for your great sleuthing!!

This is possible Harriett marriage and have traced census in 1871 of Harriett Currie born Marylebone with husband.

Marriages Dec 1867

Currie Walter Kensington
EDGERTON George Kensington
HODGE Harriet Kensington
SUTTON Agnes Eleanor Kensington

Tried all the ones married in Marylebone in 1868 which had very unusual names, but struggled to find any of them.