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Surname Given Mother Reg.Dst. Vol. Page
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Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
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BROWN William Pearce Amersham 3a 1803

Hi:

Is that a wedding announcement or one of Sarah and William's children?

I am a novice .... must be obvious.

Thanks ...Margaret.

Hi:

OK - the whole message was not there when I first looked .... so I am thinking this is a child of William and Sarah .... I could send for the birth cert. and see if we can find out more about the parents ... is that a good next step? Margaret.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1901 (>99%)
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AYRES William George Lambeth 1d 508
BROWN Thomas Lambeth 1d 508
COOK Alice Louisa Lambeth 1d 508
Cox Albert Joseph Lambeth 1d 508
Pearce Sarah Lambeth 1d 508
Pizzey Kate Lambeth 1d 508

This is the only Sarah Pearce marriage I can find in the time scale. It is not in Missenden (Amersham) but Lambeth in London. She could have been 'in service' in London. Many young girls were.


You need to purchase Frank's birth certificate to ensure that you are following the right family.

Using http://freebmd.rootsweb.com I have Abraham Brown and Arthur Brown born in Amersham who might be children of Sarah and William.

Hi Pam:

I have a copy of Frank's birth certificate: He was born 14th May 1906 ... in Ballinger Gt. Missenden. Amersham district to William Brown and Sarah Pearce.

Does this help?

Margaret.

Hi:

Frank's Pa, William Brown, was a chair turner. M.

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Births Jun 1906 (>99%)
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Brown Frank Amersham 3a 897



This is Franks' birth registration and as he is you ancestor it would be more approariate to send for this birth certificate. The mothers' surname was not added to birth registration details until late 1911.

If you haven't got the birth certificate you can purchase on line from

www.gro.gov.uk

with above reference it will cost £7 make sure you say you have reference on the form.

I think it is possible that William Brown born 1911 was a son of William and Sarah but have not way of proving it.

This is a possibility for William. You say he was possibly an only child. Haven't found him on later census yet.

1881 England Census
about William Brown
Name: William Brown
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Princes Risborough, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Princes Risborough
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Education:

Employment status:
Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration district: Wycombe
Sub registration district: Princes Risborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age

James Brown 36
Sarah Brown 37
William Brown 13



Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1470; Folio: 61; Page: 10; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341356.

The place you mention, Missendens and Princes Risborough are in the Chilterns in Buckinghamshire which along with High Wycombe are famous for chair making as there are many Beech woods.

1891 census

Name: James Brown
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Princes Risborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Longwick
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: Wycombe
Sub registration district: Princes Risborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age
James Brown 48
Sarah Brown 48
John Busby 61 Visitor

1901 England Census
about James Brown
Name: James Brown
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Princes Risborough, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Princes Risborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Longwick
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: Wycombe
Sub registration district: Princes Risborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members: Name Age
James Brown 57
Sarah Brown 58
Elizabeth Langstone 89 Mother in Law


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1352; Folio: 44; Page: 10.

Do you think one of Franks' siblings was Abraham ?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1902 (>99%)
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Brown Abraham Amersham 3a 777


this might be William and Sarah's child:

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
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BROWN Arthur Pearce Aylesbury 3a 2016

Hi:

Just got in from the grocery run.

I have this:

William Brown's mother was Nellie Brown. William was her first child and then her husband died when William was a baby. His mother, Nellie, remarried to a James. So William Brown had step brothers - Abraham James, Alfred James, Arthur James.

I am thinking that she became Nellie James ...and some of William and Sarah's bairns would have been named after William's step-bros. Abraham, et al.

I will send for Franks real birth cert. I thought that was it.

Thanks for sticking with this puzzle. Margaret.

Hi:

There was a step bro called Arthur too .... so this could be right....well done.

Margaret.

If I am correct these are not step brothers but brothers. Could you be confusing the first name James as a surname.?

If I were you...if you have Ancestry...contact the owners of the two private trees with Frank on them as I believe they are related.

This is the 1871 census for that family with William. There is another child named James aged 1 who does not appear on the 1881 census. I will check deaths.

Birth certificates available from

www.gro.gov.uk....on the form say that you have the reference and put in the information I have given.

Cost £7 (GB) with the reference.

Possible death for James Brown born 1870'ish


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Deaths Sep 1875 (>99%)
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Brown James 5 Wycombe 3a 325