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Hannah Kirkland (born c1835 Mansfield, Nottinghamshire) marries Henry Riley (born c1831 Mansfield, Nottinghamshire) in 1856 in Sheffield.

1861 - Census the surname is mistranscribed as Kiley.
1871 - Hannah is widowed and living in Chesterfield with a lodger by the name of Robert Hallam (born c1836, Leicester)
1881 - Hannah is living with Robert Hallam
1891 - Hannah married to Robert Hallam (1890 Chesterfield)
1901 - Hannah widowed again.

In the 1871 Census there are two girls living with Hannah.

Eliza H Riley born c1868 Chesterfield
Edith H Riley born c1870 Chesterfield

I've found two births for such children with the name Hallam as middle name.

I'm thinking these two girls are actually Roberts. Edith appears to have dropped the Riley name by 1881 Census.

Can't find Eliza after 1871.

You could be right.

my grandmother was registered as Hilda Irvine Surtees ( Surtees being her mothers first married name).
Hildas Fathers surnname was Irving.

Her Parents married 2years after she was born. The Surtees was then dropped & Irvine changed to Irving.

Took him a few years and two more children by the looks of things David (lol).

Wouldn't be an unusual thing with this branch of my family. My grandfather and his younger brother and sister didn't have the same father. My grandfather's mother had a long affair with her brother-in-law (ie: husband's brother) which resulted in the two youngest children.

Great-Grandad stuck with her until the children were grown, then dropped her in favour of her sister, who he remained with for almost 40 years though they never married and had no children.

What a family I come from huh??? :-)

Hi Joy

I've been looking for a death for you for Henry/ but I can't find one.

Do you already have details of his death?

I'm wondering if maybe he didn't die & thats why it took them so long to get married.

Maybe they waited until he did die?

Hi Chrisa

I can't find one before 1868 either. I'm beginning to wonder if it was a bigamous marriage to Robert on Hannah's part or maybe they could afford to divorced.

There's a Henry Riley born c1835 Mansfield, Nottinghamshire in the 1891 Census living in Kiveton, Thorpe Salvin, Yorkshire. He appears to die in 1915 in Worksop.

What a puzzle?

Hi Joy

Another branch on my tree has a bigamous marriage also.

Have you tried tracing the Henry you found in 1891 back over to see if there's any trace of him at the same time as your Henry?

It may be him.

Hi Chrisa.

Yeah, did that this morning. Looks like it's a different Henry Riley after all. What fun the children are proving too.

It appears they had a son named Joseph born 1858 Brightside. Looks like he was raised by Hannah's brother, William Kirkland born 1832 Mansfield.

Joseph and John both go MIA after 1881, querying emigration.

I've found a marriage for Edith Hallam (Riley). .Can't find anything for Mary or Eliza. It also appears Robert and Hannah had two more children. Frank and Harriet

Frank (poss Francis) is in prison in Wakefield, Yorkshire in 1891.

Harriet. I'm just about at the end of my tether with, can't find her after the 1881 Census.

Joy

Joy

I've got to go out now to help my neice get ready for her prom but I'll look back in tonight & see if I can help you find anything else.

x

Thanks Chrisa.

EDIT: Found Mary Jane in 1881 Census, year of birth 1860. Working as a servant for Joseph Lowe.

Ok Joy I'mback & I've read back through.

Pleased you've found Mary in 1881.

I'm off now to have a look about.
x

Posting for ref

1871 England Census
about Hannah Riley
Name: Hannah Riley
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Where born: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Chesterfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Chesterfield
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub registration district: Chesterfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 164
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Hallam 35
Edith H Riley 1
Eliza H Riley 3
Hannah Riley 35
John Riley 10
Mary A Riley 12
Sarah Ann Riley 6
William H Riley 8
Henry White 34

Also for ref

1881 England Census
about Hannah Riley
Name: Hannah Riley
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Brightside Bierlow
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 3 CT 6 Apple St
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub registration district: Brightside
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age


Edith Hallam 11
Frank Hallam 10
Harriet Hallam 7
Robert Hallam 46
Hannah Riley 46
John Riley 20
Sarah Ann Riley 16
William Riley 18

Here's John in 1891 with Hannahs father & brother


1891 England Census
about William Kirkland
Name: William Kirkland
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard
Gender: Male
Where born: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Chesterfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub registration district: Chesterfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Kirkland 83
William Kirkland 58
John Riley 50 >>>>>>>image looks more like 30 to me.
Charles Wilkinson 60
John Worrall 52


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2761; Folio 107; Page 46; GSU roll: 6097871

Same here Chrisa.

Joy I'm looking at this as a maybe for John

1901 England Census
about John Riley
Name: John Riley
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Barnsley, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Barnsley
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Barnsley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Barnsley
Sub registration district: Barnsley
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 188
Household Members: Name Age
John Riley 40


I can't see a John born c1861 in Barnsley in the 1891 census to match him with.

There's a lot of dittos on the page under place of birth so it could ne worth bearing in mind

A good possibility.

Joy I've also found what looks like a newly married Joseph in 1891. born c 1857 in Dewsbury, again nothing jumps out at me for a match for him in 1881.

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3733; Folio 34; Page 11; GSU roll: 6098843.

Joy I'm not going to look for Joseph in 1901 just now. I'm going to see if I can spot Harriet anywhere.

Harriet in 1891?

1891 England Census
about Harriet Hallam
Name: Harriet Hallam
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Brightside Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub registration district: Brightside
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edith A Cox 18
Harriet Hallam 18
Agnes Hughes 16
Joseph Hughes 51
Mary A Hughes 53
Anne E Johnston 22
Elizabeth L Malcolm 24
Susan McMurray 23


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3833; Folio 113; Page 9; GSU roll: 6098943

The only that jumps out in 1881 is my Joseph, so that's another good possibility.