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Hi Chrisa

I think I've solved the Eliza Hallam Riley mystery.

1881 Census - I think she's listed as Eliza Cantrell born 1868 Chesterfield. Working for a Thomas Cantrell, though no relationship is shown.

Living next door to her is her Uncle, Charles Kirkland born c1849 Chesterfield. He goes on to marry Mary A Cantrell in Sheffield 1891 ?Thomas Cantrell's widow. A search through the records discovers that Thomas Cantrell died 3rd Qtr 1881. Charles and Mary A appear to have 2 children before they marry.


Went looking for Eliza in 1891 Census

Found Eliza Riley Keen born 1868 Chesterfield, Derbyshire.

William Keen married Eliza Riley Hallam 1886 Sheffield.

What do you reckon?

The Joseph you've found in 1891 I don't think is mine. Went trawling and found this.

Joseph Ryley born c1857 Sheffield, Yorkshire.

Tried tracking him back and found nothing with that spelling.

I've also tried tracking Henry Riley (born c1831 Mansfield) back to 1851 with that spelling and nothing comes up, but there does with the RYLEY spelling. It comes us as born in M WOODHOUSE ie Mansfield Woodhouse.

Hi Joy I'm back

Pleased you've tracked down Eliza! At last..

I'm going to go back & have a look at the Joseph Riley in 1891.

I think you might be right Joy

Just posting the ref incase I lose it.
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3829; Folio 49; Page 10; GSU roll: 6098939

I suppose the spelling depends on who was writting down the information.

I did spot Ryley spelt that way a couple of times yesterday while searching for the others.

So this will be your Joseph in 1901 then.

1901 England Census
about Joseph Ryley
Name: Joseph Ryley
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Newbold and Dunston
Ecclesiastical parish: Newbold St John
Town: Newbold and Dunston
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub registration district: Chesterfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 203
Household Members: Name Age
Eva Ryley 1
Gertrude Ryley 9
Hannah Ryley 37
Harold Ryley 6
Joseph Ryley 48
Percy Ryley 4

& this will be their marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%)
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GODDARD Hannah Sheffield 9c 584
Ryley Joseph Sheffield 9c 584

Yes. I'm almost positive that's him.

I think you're right Joy & I've had a look at the 1851&1841 for Henry as Ryley & it looks the most likely for him also.


Is that everyone accounted for right through now?

Everyone except for a possible marriage for Mary Jane Riley post 1881.

Joy

I've had a look at the Eliza entry & I agree it looks very likely.

I was a little worried about this one
Eliza Cantrell Martin,
Elizabeth abt 1868 Ashover, Derbyshire, England

as she appears in 1871 not in 1881 when your Eliza appears BUT she IS there with her parents misranscribed as Cantrill so I agree totally that Eliza Cantrell in 1881 is your Eliza......YAY

I'm so pleased for you.

Well done for tracking that entry down!!

Right

Back on the hunt now for Mary Jane!

Joy I've found this marriage.


Eli Milner 1888 Oct-Nov-Dec Dewsbury Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire

Richard Rignall 1888 Oct-Nov-Dec Dewsbury Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire

Mary Jane Riley 1888 Oct-Nov-Dec Dewsbury Yorkshire - West Riding, West

Jane Elizabeth Spurr 1888 Oct-Nov-Dec Dewsbury Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire

I've found the Rignalls in 1891 census so it may be her marrying Eli Milner.

Haven't found them yet in census to find her age to see if it's her.

Joy this is the 1901 for Mary Jane Riley who married Eli Milner

1901 England Census
about Mary J Milner
Name: Mary J Milner
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Eli
Gender: Female
Where born: Gawthorpe, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Ossett
Ecclesiastical parish: Ossett with Gawthorpe Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub registration district: Ossett
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 201
Household Members: Name Age
Eli Milner 32
Ethel Milner 11
Mary J Milner 32
Riley Milner 1
Sophia Milner 8
Willie Milner 3


Will carry on looking for 1891.

Will also check backwards to see if she is a different Mary Jane

Sorry Joy I think that was a false alarm

Found A Mary Jane Riley in 1881 b 1870 in the Civil Parish: Ossett Cum Gawthorpe. Her mothers name was Sophia the same as the daughter in 1901.

Back to searching.
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Double checking another one now.

I might have missed it, but I can't find Robert Hallam's death either between 1891 and 1901.

Here are the marriages I found Joy.....
Mary Jane Riley 1883 Apr-May-Jun Middlesbrough (1875-1968) Yorkshire - North Riding------- Finding this Mary J on census with husband shows she was born Scotland.

Mary Jane Riley 1884 Apr-May-Jun Halifax Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire ---- census for this Mary shows she was born 1853 Colne Lancashire

Mary Jane Riley 1888 Jul-Aug-Sep Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding ----- census has Mary J born 1871

Mary Jane Riley 1888 Oct-Nov-Dec Dewsbury Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire ---- This is the Mary J That married Elin Milner on previous page

Mary Jane Riley 1889 Apr-May-Jun Keighley (1837-1946) Yorkshire - West Riding ----- Partner missing........here is the ref for this one
Name: Mary Jane Riley
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Keighley (1837-1946)
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9a
Page: 309


Mary Jane Riley 1890 Oct-Nov-Dec Halifax Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire ----census shows MJ born 1856

Mary Jane Riley 1891 Jan-Feb-Mar Hull (1854 Onw) Yorkshire - East Riding, Humberside ---census has MJ born 1848

Joy

The only deaths for Robert with the right age range were these two but one is in 1903....

Robert Hallam abt 1836 1889 Jul-Aug-Sep Bingham Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire

Robert Hallam abt 1837 1903 Jan-Feb-Mar Sheffield South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding

There's also these two making him slightly older...

Robert Hallam abt 1833 1897 Apr-May-Jun Nottingham Nottinghamshire

Robert Hallam abt 1834 1897 Apr-May-Jun Prestwich Lancashire


I'm not too sure about the area for any of these deaths except the one in 1903.

Another Robert Hallam death Joy

Robert Hallam abt 1834 1900 Jan-Feb-Mar Basford Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire