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after obtaining my grandfathers birth cert, i now know William and Sarah were his parent, Sarah was nee Williams and was married to a ? Kimber before marrying William
Sarah and ? Kimber had Alice,George,Dorothy,+??
William and Sarah had Ethel,Rose and Frederick
I would be pleased with any help as i am stuck, i cannot find their mc so cannot go further untill then
many thanks
Kim

Kim - can you give the odd date and place name?

A possibility for Sarah's first marriage??

Marriages Dec 1846

Kimber James Strong Brentford 3 13
Williams Sarah Brentford 3 13

The district Brentford is in the county of Middlesex

Whoa! I wasn't looking that far back. ;)

If Kim's great-grandmother was first married in 1846 ... well, Kim must be older than me!

hi Kathy, i have only my pops Frederick d,o,b which was 20-01-1907 as he was the last child and Sarah died in her late 40,s when he was approx 6/7 i est her to be bc 1860,, i believe they came from the angel islington, William was a journeyman,Fred married Violet McVay in london and had 2 sons James 1934 and Ronald 1935, it would be fantastic if you know anything, regards Kim

i wish it was a match but i think they must have married around 1900, they had kids quick in those days lol, cheers KIm

hi wayne& tracey, the marriage to Mr KImber was first but still if her bc date is 1860 this still dont go,cheers for looking if you see another one ,i ould love to know as i cant seem to find anything ,

LOL, well you get far back dates when people don;t mention dates at all....

Oh well..... back to the crystal ball....

As i cannot find a relevant ? Kimber death,,,, maybe she never married Mr Boswell and just took his name?

aww sorry, i am getting the hang of this,,,,,Slowly, lol

Births Mar 1907

Boswell Frederick Richard Mile End 1c 420

or

Births Sep 1907

Boswell Frederick Thomas Pancras 1b 114

aww sorry, i am getting the hang of this,,,,,Slowly, lol

Now i know i'm not going mad... but i cannot find a death for a 40 something Sarah Boswell in the London area at all for 1910 to 1920

God i am a pain right let me get thinking head on sarah boswell /kimber nee williams bc 1860
william boswell bc?
frederick oliver 20-01-07 born at the infirmary twickenham road isleworth u.d
dont understand yet the numbers
(6&7 Wmiv.,cap86) 41946, but i think your right i thought they were just co,habitating

i know, its a emnigma it has drove me batchy,

Births Mar 1907 (>99%)
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Boswell Frederick Oliver Brentford 3a 81

o he had a twin that died too, funny isnt it so close!! my pops would not talk about his family shame, but he did say they were romanies and sarah was a dweller, so the family disowned william

So -- your Frederick is one of these?

Frederick Oliver Boswell 1907 Jan-Feb-Mar Brentford Middlesex
Frederick Richard Boswell 1907 Jan-Feb-Mar Mile End Old Town London, Middlesex


I dunno. It's looking like they weren't married.

Searching at FreeBMD for marriages 1880 to 1910, Sarah to William Boswell, there's no Sarah Kimber or Williams.

Now, one would actually have to look at all the Sarah Kimber marriages and all the William Boswell marriages to check that there are the right number of spouses on each page as transcribed, and make sure there aren't mistranscriptions interfering.

I did a quick side-by-side comparison (two monitors here) of all William Boswell and all Sarah Kimber marriages 1880-1910, and there aren't any that match up for quarter/district.

Here's one where there's a bride missing:

Marriages Jun 1909
BOSWELL William Hackney 1b 905
CHAPMAN Charlotte Hackney 1b 905
HAWKSBAN Charles Hackney 1b 905

But there's no Sarah Kimber for that place/quarter.

And here's a stray mistranscribed William:

Marriages Mar 1910
BOSWELL William Lambeth 1d [3_]87

-- post 1907, I know, but there could have been an impediment to earlier marriage, like Mr. Kimber not being dead. But again, no matching Sarah Kimber marriage.


If Sarah died when Frederick was 6 or 7, that would be 1913-14. If she was in her 40s, she was likely born closer to 1870 than 1860.

But there doesn't seem to be a death of a Sarah Boswell of that age-ish around that time in a likely place.

Here's a possibly interesting death, though:

Name: Sarah Kimber
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 50
District: Lewisham
County: Greater London, Kent, London
Volume: 1d
Page: 1088


I'm having to go home and make pot roast I'm afraid -- sorry to have fizzled out!

Hmmm there is no other Boswell child born at the same time as Frederick according to the BMD....

many thanks, you have been very kind, i will check them out,

Kathryn has pretty much confirmed all i have said...

Back to the drawing board then Kim...