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Hi Margaret
Could you just check other Jessie Lakins born around this time to make sure this is correct cert. Sorry Margaret was writing as you were posting.

Thankyou Rose

I'm getting more confused, Rose, because on Free BMD Job Nightingale Hopkinson married Frances Amelia Eaton.

Hi Margaret
Thats right i put this in earlier post now you can see why all this is confusing.

Regards Rose

Yes, on Free BMD Jessie Violet Lakins born 1907, Belper.

Hi Margaret
I have details of her birth cert that, uncle has got just wondered if it was the right one.


Regards Rose

Just a thought, Rose. On Jessie's birth certificate, is the writing very bad? Could the mother's name possibly be Frances Amelia Eaton instead of Frances Violet Lakins? I'm really clutching at straws here!

Hi Margaret

STRAWS

X Rose

Hi Margaret
My uncle has the birth cert there is no father and it does say Fanny Voilet Lakin.

Thankyou Margaret for all your time on this

Regards Rose

PS wish it did say Frances would make this a lot easier.

Hi Margaret
Just a thought don't no if it will be any help but on Jessie's birth cert the mothers address is given as Plastow Farm Crich, which is in Derbyshire i cannot find any Lakin family there on 1881 census but you may be able to find a Lakin family there on the 1901 census, by the way different spellings of Lakin, Lakins, Laykin.


Regards Rose

There's a Lakin family in Crich in 1901. No address given, They're John 44? and wife Mary Ann 42. He was born Shepshed, Leicestershire and she in Crich.

In 1891 they're 64 and 62, gotta go back to 1901. OK, they were 74 and 72 in 1901.

Hi Margaret
The family you have found were living on the common in crich. This man John Lakin is who my uncle thinks is Jessie's dad. Is there anywhere i can look by address to see who was living at the Farm in 1907 please.

Regards Rose

I went through 22 pages of Crich on the 1901 census, looking for Plastow Farm. No luck. Not sure what to suggest.

Hi Rose,

I'll email you, was just about to do it when I saw this thread as I think I may have found Violet Laykin

Christine

Hi Margaret
I have been trying to find the farm on crich history pages and it is spelt Plaistow i can only get the owner from 1991 so too far back for Jessie's birth thankyou for everyones time on this.

Regards Rose

This is who I believe could be Fanny Violet Lakin

1901 England Census
about Violetta Lakin
Name: Violetta Lakin
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Shepshed, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Shepshed
Ecclesiastical parish: St Botolph
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Loughborough
Sub-registration district: Loughborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 63
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Lakin 10
Elizabeth Lakin 50
Elizabeth Lakin 20
Florence Lakin 16
Gertrude Lakin 18
John Lakin 48
Laura Lakin 14
Violetta Lakin 12


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2978; Folio: 172; Page: 10.

1891 England Census
about Viletter Lakin
Name: Viletter Lakin
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Shepshed, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Shepshed
Ecclesiastical parish: St Botolph
Town: Shepshed
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Loughborough
Sub-registration district: Loughborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charley Lakin 17
Elizabeth Lakin 40
Elizabeth Lakin 10
Florence Lakin 6
Gertrude Lakin 8
John Lakin 39
John T Lakin 21
Laura Lakin 4
Maud Lakin 8/12
Sarah Lakin 14
Viletter Lakin 2


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 2517; Folio 26; Page 9; GSU roll: 6097627.


Christine

Hi All
Have been to Derbyshire records office today, to see who was at the farm for the years 1905-1907, the records are very vague but there was no one called John Lakin in the village for these years. All the farms were just listed as Plaistow, no listings for a Plaistow Green farm. I know John Lakin died in 1910 ref 7b 392 Reg Belper, if i got his death cert that, would give me his address at death ?

Regards Rose

Hi Rose,

Was Fanny Violet Lakin in the village in 1907?

Christine

Hi again, Rose.
I believe that the death certificate would give you the address of where the death occurred but I stand to be corrected.
I think that the Violetta Lakin that Christine found could very well be the mother of your Jessie but how on earth did Jessie become the daughter of Job Nightingale Hopkinson and Frances Eaton? And why did the grandchildren call Frances "grandma" and Job "uncle"?

Hi Christine & Margaret

No Fanny in the village at this time it was mainly men that were on elect rolls, as they were the head of household. I do believe from what i could make out the only women listed where property owners. The only Lakin registered was a Thomas Jnr Lakin on the common, no sign of a John Lakin on the common. I will have to get his death cert to find out where he was living, if not in Crich he was still somewhere in the area as Belper covers surrounding areas. I think there are many questions we will never find the answers to. I wonder if she just added the name John on her wedding cert as to say she had a father when she got married. Hopefully i will receive Frances's and Job's marriage cert in the morning, as i ordered from same office their marriage was registered.

Regards Rose x


Thankyou for your time on this .

You may find more when the 1911 census is released but on the other hand possibly not.

Christine