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Hi Rose,

It could be a long trawl as they would have been about 60 in 1906 wouldn't they?

Images on ancestry are really slow loading so afraid I can't do it at the moment.

Christine

Hi Christine
Can you find a death for either Edwin or Fanny Elizabeth, i know Edwin was alive in 1906 when Frances married Job having no luck getting in on freesearch bmd and ancestry trying to look by going through all bmd's as i do not have membership thankyou Rose x

Hi Rose,

It will be after 5 when I am able to send the images.

Christine

Hi christine
Thats right my uncle did think they came from nottingham, the reason for this was because of teresa's address on the will in 1935 her address was listed as nuttall, which is in nottinghamshire. I would like the images please. I am going to ring my uncle to find out if anyone else was listed on the will ie a a fanny Voilet ? i will get back to you after i have rung him. Thankyou.


Regards Rose x

Hi Rose,

I can't find a birth reg for her either but as far as I know it wasn't compulsory to register births till 1875 but I could be wrong. There will surely be a baptism record somewhere though.

I think you will find that Wheatcroft is just an area in Crich as is Plaistow Green and not another village.
I have details of the enumeration districts and both of them are in District 9 for Crich.
I suppose it's possible that Job and Frances moved to a different farm when they married.

Would you like me to email you the images for te Larkins and the Eaton one for 1891?

If I remember correctly you told me that your uncle said the Eatons were from Nottingham so if he has traced a family there it must be the wrong one.

Christine

Hi Christnine
Yes of course Margaret found them derrrrrrrrrrrrr. my head is spinning with this family. Well she was in Crich for the birth of Jessie 1907. We also know Frances Amelia alias Fanny Lilian was in wheatcroft 1906 and wheatcroft is the ajoining village to Crich the family owned 2 farms one in wheatcroft and the other in Plaistow green but i cannot find out who was living at Plaistow in 1907 when Jessie was born. And i Cannot make out who owned what from the conversations i have with my uncle, i'am going to try and visit him closer to the weekend, then i can see the will for myself to see how it is worded. He has always said Frances was a wealthy woman if so where did the money come from? Another thing i have not got a birth reg for Frances Amelia alias Frances Lillian.


Regards Rose x

Hi Rose,

Details of where they were in 1891 are on the 1st page of this thread, Margaret Manson found them.

Whatever the ties were with the Eatons and the Lakins they must have been strong musn't they as Fanny E (mother)was with themin 1881 and then 27 years later it appears that Frances Amelia aka Fanny Lilian brought up the daughter of Fanny Violet Lakins.

The big question still remains where did Fanny Violet come from and where did she go after Jessies birth???

Christine

Hi all
Where were they in 1891? we have them all over the place in 1881, but nothing for 1891 sorry i can't help as i only have access to freesearch. I have address's for later as these were given on the will but these are no use regarding 1891 or 1901, thankyou to all who have helped on my grandma for your time on this it is really appreciated.

Regards Rose x

I haven't been able to find the others in 1901 either Angela, goodness knows where Theresa was. She married in 1902 I think it was to a william Sudbury in Belper, Deryshire.

Christine

I've been trying to find the Eaton family in 1901 - they seem to have disappeared, although we know Theresa, at least, was still alive. This might be Fanny:

Fanny Eatons
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: E
Gender: Female
Where born: B'Gham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Sutton Coldfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England


Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Sutton Coldfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 82
Household Members: Name Age
Fanny Eatons 30
Joseph Higgins 75

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And Herbert:

Herbert Eaton
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham

Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 50
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Herbert Eaton 31
Mary Eaton 30

Hi Angela, great minds think alike, lol

There was a Lillian Eaton registered in Chorlton in the time frame but it's not her as she is on the 1871 census.

Christine

Hi Rose

I don't think that birth in 1866 is your Frances, as there seems to be a corresponding death:

Births Mar 1866 (>99%)
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EATON Frances A Aston 6d 355

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Deaths Dec 1867 (>99%)
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Eaton Frances Annie 1 Aston 6d 246


Angela


Hi Christine - snap!!

I'd seen that Rose but she couldn't only be 1 in 1871 and there is also this death

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol

Deaths Dec 1867 (>99%)

Eaton Frances Annie 1 Aston 6d 246

This seems to take care of this one.

Christine

Hi Christine
Frances A Aston 1866


Regards Rose

Hi Christine
I have not seen the will my uncle has a copy of it, on the will she leaves £100 :00 each to Herbert brother, Teresa sister, and then the same to Jessie listed as in her married name in 1935 no mention of the word daughter.


Regards Rose
I'am going out now for a couple of hours be back later. x

Frances Amelia was certainly a bit ecconomical with the truth wasn't she as she must have been at least 36 going by the 1871/81 census, she must have been born 1869 or 70.

Have you actually seen the will and did she name Jessie as her daughter?

Christine

Hi Christine
Frances 31
Job 30

That was my next question was it Herberts wife as i knew you had found his marriage details.

Regards Rose

The Dorothy Frances isn't Herberts wife unless he remarried as his wifes nme in 1901 was Mary

Christine

So Frances Amelia was Frances Lilian in the previous years, we were right with that bit.

What age does it give for her? although it's not bound to be correct seeing as she changed her name.

Christine

Hi Christine & Margaret

Marriage cert
10/2/1906
Father Edwin Eaton

In the presence of John Hopkinson think this is Jobs brother.

Herbert E G Eaton Frances brother

Dorothy Frances Eaton ?


Regards Rose