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Terence
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18 Aug 2009 09:06 |
Trying to sort out the family of Daniel Simmonds1848 who married Martha Norris1859 in Dec 1872. I have 4 Henry's born around 1874. Whichever is the correct one seems to have disappeared after the 1881 census! All the children seem to have a second christian name, except 2 of the Henry's I have found. I have also found 2 Ellen's and 2 Annie's. My grandmother is Catherine Margaret1890-1976 for which I have birth and marriage certificates and death details. The parents seems to have stayed in Bisham Viiage most of their lives. Frustratingly I cannot find much about Elizabeth (Harriet?)1882, as I remember her and a daughter Frances? well. Elizabeth was still alive in 1968. I can't find her marriage to trace Frances' marriage. Help please? Terence Meads. South Australia.
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19 Aug 2009 01:50 |
Thanks about Henry 'Jonesey'. There is the same registration for a Clara. I have checked 6 months on for her death, from their possible birth as twins. Can you advise on this please? As I mentioned I am trying to find the marriage of Elizabeth Simmonds, but I have 1902 Reading 2c 817, 1906 Maidenhead 2c 947, 1908 Reading 2c 935, 1912 Maidenhead 2c 943. So far I cannot determine which one is correct, regarding the cost of certificates. Elizabeth had at least two daugthers Frances and June. Hope you can help further? Terence.
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19 Aug 2009 02:55 |
Looking for Annie Blanche Simmonds 1886 Cookham 2c 12?, I have just found an Albert Ernest, JAS 1886 Cookham 2c 414!!! Was there more than one Simmonds family living in Cokham/Bisham? Terence.
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19 Aug 2009 03:01 |
1891
Name: Annie B Simmonds Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Fredrick G Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Female Where born: Maidenhead, Berkshire, England Civil parish: Cookham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Maidenhead County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Cookham Sub-registration district: Cookham ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Fredrick G Simmonds 31 >>>>>>>>General lab Ellen Simmonds 31 >>>>>>>>>>>>Born Kenilworth, Warwickshire Arthur W Simmonds 7 Annie B Simmonds 5 Rosa I Simmonds 2 All born Maidenhead Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1004; Folio 119; Page 37; GSU roll: 6096114.
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Name: Albert E Simmonds Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation: Son Father's Name: Edward Mother's Name: Louisa E Gender: Male Where born: Clewer, Berkshire, England Civil parish: Bray Ecclesiastical parish: Braywood All Saints County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Maidenhead Sub-registration district: Bray ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 135 Household Members: Name Age Edward Simmonds 52 >>>>>>>>>>>>>Wheelwright Louisa E Simmonds 53 Albert E Simmonds 16 >>>>>>>>>>>>Gardener (domestic) George W Simmonds 14 >>>>>>>>>>Wheel wright appr Edward Simmonds 11
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1159; Folio: 59; Page: 21.
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Terence
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19 Aug 2009 07:20 |
Thanks 'Liverbird' I now have parts of more than one family of Simmonds from you and what I have found. I am trying to concentrate on the Daniel/Martha family (as mentioned at the start). I have birth lists for Daniel Simmonds OND1847 all1848 and all 1849 but cannot find him. Most transcribed lists (1881) say he was born 1848 in Nettlebed Oxon, but the 1851 & 61 census' show Caversham, if I have the right family, the age is right. Elizabeth1882 is still a mystery so far. Terence.
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19 Aug 2009 12:04 |
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Name: Elizabeth Simmonds Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Daniel Mother's Name: Martha Gender: Female Where born: Bisham, Berkshire, England Civil parish: Bisham Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Bisham County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bisham Village
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Cookham Sub-registration district: Cookham ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Daniel Simmonds 42 >>>>>>>>>>>>Born Nettlebed, Oxfordshire, general lab Martha Simmonds 40 >>>>>>>>>>>>Born White Waltham, Berkshire William Simmonds 16 >>>>>>>>>>>Born Ruscombe, Berkshire, Ag lab John Simmonds 11 Elizabeth Simmonds 8 Annie Simmonds 6 Ellen Simmonds 3 Kate Simmonds 8/12 All rest born Bisham Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1004; Folio 36; Page 2; GSU roll: 6096114
Name: Elizabeth * Simmonds Year of Registration: 1882 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Cookham County: Berkshire Volume: 2c Page: 4_3
Births Jun 1882 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Simmonds Elizabeth Harriet Cookham 2c 423
poss marriage
Marriages Jun 1912 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Clark Elsie M Ridgway Maidenhead 2c 943 Ridgway Edward H Clark Maidenhead 2c 943 >>>>>>>>>Silvey George W Simmonds Maidenhead 2c 943 >>>>>>>>>Simmonds Elizabeth H Silvey Maidenhead 2c 943
can't find any children with that marriage though
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Terence
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31 Aug 2009 01:49 |
Thanks Cassy, have applied for the marriage certiificate for Silvey/Simmonds.
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Moody Blue
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31 Aug 2009 02:53 |
1901 England Census about Daniel Simmonds Name: Daniel Simmonds Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Henley, Oxfordshire, England Civil parish: Bisham Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Bisham County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address: Village, Bisham
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Maidenhead Sub-registration district: Cookham ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Daniel Simmonds 52 Farm Labourer Martha Simmonds 50 Ellen M Simmonds 13 Catherine M Simmonds 10 Victor P Simmonds 5 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1160; Folio: 34; Page: 2.
Births Jun 1887 Simmonds Ellen Mary Cookham 2c 411
Births Jun 1895 Simmonds Victor Philip Cookham 2c 407
Brenda
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31 Aug 2009 02:56 |
Possible marriage for Victor?
Marriages Sep 1924 Butler Annie G Simmonds Edmonton 3a 1166 Simmonds Victor P Butler Edmonton 3a 1166
and for Ellen Mary?
Marriages Sep 1911 Hawes Arthur F Maidenhead 2c 933 Simmonds Ellen M Maidenhead 2c 933
Brenda
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Moody Blue
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31 Aug 2009 03:03 |
1911 Census Household Transcript
Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born: SIMMONDS, DANIEL HEAD MARRIED M 64 GARDENER DOMESTIC OXFORDSHIRE NETTLEBED SIMMONDS, MARTHA WIFE MARRIED 40 F 62 BERKS WHITE WALTHAM SIMMONDS, ELIZABETH DAUGHTER SINGLE F 29 BERKS BISHAM SIMMONDS, VICTOR SON SINGLE M 15 GENERAL LABOURER BERKS BISHAM SIMMONDS VICTOR (RG14PN6638 RG78PN330 RD123 SD1 ED1 SN26) Address BISHAM MARLOW County Berkshire District Maidenhead Subdistrict Maidenhead Enumeration District 1 Parish Bisham
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31 Aug 2009 03:21 |
Maybe births for children of Victor?
Births Dec 1924 Simmonds Female Butler Easthampstead 2c 643
Births Jun 1931 Simmonds May Butler Easthampstead 2c 668 Simmonds Peter Butler Easthampstead 2c 668
Brenda
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31 Aug 2009 03:31 |
Further information re Elizabeth Harriet...........
1st husbands death.......
Casualty Details Name: SILVEY, GEORGE WALTER Initials: G W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Corporal Regiment/Service: Royal Berkshire Regiment Unit Text: Depot Age: 33 Date of Death: 19/05/1917 Service No: 26188 Additional information: Husband of Elizabeth Harriet Field (formerly Silvey), of 6, York Rd., Marlow. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: C. M. 31. Cemetery: MARLOW CEMETERY
2nd marriage Marriages Sep 1921 Field Francis H Silvey Wycombe 3a 2456 Silvey Elizabeth H Field Wycombe 3a 2456
their children.........
Births Mar 1925 Field Frances E Simmonds Wycombe 3a 1470
Births Sep 1927 Field Phyllis J Simmonds Wycombe 3a 1454 ( could this be June as 2nd initial is J)?
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31 Aug 2009 03:49 |
Would this be anyone who is connected to your Daniel Simmonds ?
Casualty Details Name: SIMMONDS, HARRY Initials: H Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Royal Berkshire Regiment Unit Text: 1st/4th Bn. Age: 22 Date of Death: 16/08/1917 Service No: 201513 Additional information: Son of Daniel Simmonds, of Shellingford Cross Rds., Faringdon, Berks. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: I. B. 11. Cemetery: DUHALLOW A.D.S. CEMETERY
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31 Aug 2009 04:00 |
Matha's birth & death...........
Births Sep 1850 Norris Martha Cookham 6 169
Deaths Mar 1935 Simmonds Martha 84 Maidenhead 2c 567
and Daniel......
Births Jun 1849 SIMMONS Daniel Henley 16 83
Deaths Dec 1924 Simmonds Daniel 75 Maidenhead 2c 422
marriage of Daniels parents?
Marriages Dec 1843 Jervis Sarah Henley 16 177 Simmonds Robert Henley 16 177
Brenda
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Terence
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2 Sep 2009 07:14 |
Thanks to 'Brenda' (for pointing out more info) also many more to 'Moody Blue'. I was just going to add to many more hours of researching the Simmonds family, but this latest info has been an immense help.
Very glad to have info on Frances and Phyllis (we knew her as June) . I now have to find their children. We know that Frances married David Whitbourne and Son Freddie worked in the dairy in Bisham Village.
Annie Simmonds (Dec 1885?) info still remains elusive to me. She is 6yrs in the 1891 census, but my searching has not yet found her 'in service,' as is the the case generally. Have not found her possible early death either!
In this column 'Jonesey' mentions a Harry Simmonds in the Royal Berks Regt, but he was born in 1873!
To end for now, I have received the certificate for Elizabeth's first marriage confirming George Walter Silvey, and, as I have 7 Simmonds families from the different census', I have yet to trace one of the 'witnesses' named Alfred William Simmonds? I have yet to put together another Simmonds family in Cookham/Bisham! The one with Annie Blanche Simmonds! (Parents Fred G/Ellen Simmonds). Terence.
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2 Sep 2009 19:04 |
Marriages Sep 1908 PITHERS Albert Charles Eton 3a 1750 SIMMONDS Annie Blanche E Eton 3a 1750
1911 Census Household Transcript
Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born: PITHERS, ALBERT CHARLES HEAD MARRIED M 23 LABOURER GENERAL BURNHAM BUCKS PITHERS, ANNIE BLANCHE E WIFE 2 F 25 LAUNDRESS MAIDENHEAD BERKS
PITHERS ANNIE BLANCHE E (RG14PN6657 RG78PN330 RD123 SD1 ED19 SN92) Address 67 WALDECK TERRACE MAIDENHEAD County Berkshire District Maidenhead Subdistrict Maidenhead Enumeration District 19 Parish Maidenhead
1901 England Census about Albert C Pitkin Name: Albert C Pitkin [Albert C Pithers] Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Harriet A Gender: Male Where born: Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Civil parish: Burnham Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Burnham County/Island: Buckinghamshire Country: England Street Address: Sunnyside ?
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Eton Sub-registration district: Burnham ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 126 Household Members: Name Age Harriet A Pitkin 53 Widow, born Westtide, Hampshire, England Agnes S Pitkin 19 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Herbert J Pitkin 15 Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Albert C Pitkin 13 Farm Lab born Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Florence M E Pitkin 5 grandchild born Burnham, Buckinghamshire, England Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1344; Folio: 33; Page: 18.
All should read Pithers
1901 England Census about Blanch Simmonds Name: Blanch Simmonds Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Frederick Gender: Female Where born: Maidenhead, Berkshire, England Civil parish: Maidenhead Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew and St Mary Town: Maidenhead County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address: Tyrrells Buildings 36
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Maidenhead Sub-registration district: Cookham ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 154 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Simmonds 43 Widower / Coal Carman labourer Blanch Simmonds 15 Jane Simmonds 13 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1161; Folio: 18; Page: 27.
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2 Sep 2009 19:23 |
Births Dec 1875 Simmonds Alfred William Wokingham 2c 373
Ruscombe is in Wokingham district.
Marriages Mar 1898 Fleming Jessie Elizabeth Maidenhead 2c 571 Simmonds Alfred William Maidenhead 2c 571
1901 England Census about Alfred W Simmonds Name: Alfred W Simmonds Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jessie E Gender: Male Where born: Ruscombe, Berkshire, England Civil parish: Bisham Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Bisham County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street Address: Village, Bisham
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Maidenhead Sub-registration district: Cookham ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Alfred W Simmonds 25 Engineer on Electric Launch? (Barge) Jessie E Simmonds 26 born Marlow Bucks Kate E Simmonds 2 daughter born Bisham Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1160; Folio: 35; Page: 3.
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3 Sep 2009 07:04 |
Thank you very much again Brenda, these 'Annie's' (and all the Simmonds in fact) seem (to me) to be a little confusing! I am actually looking for the Annie1886 of Daneil1848/Martha1850. All of their children: John1880, Elizabeth1882, Annie1886, Ellen1887, Catherine1890 and Victor1895 appear to be born in Bisham.. Except Henry1873, Hurley and William1875, Ruscombe. I have Frederick G1860/Ellen1860 Simmonds with Arthur W1884, Annie B1886 and Rosa I1889 in the 1891 census living at 8 Long Acre Farm, Cookham. Would this be the same family (in your latest info) in 1901?
I'm not sure about Alfred William, he could have dropped his first name early on. As with some others!! I appreciate your help Brenda, I should not leave it all to you, I will continue with my efforts. Terence.
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3 Sep 2009 21:13 |
hi Terence,
Yes, it is the same family in 1891 and 1901.
Here is the birth of Rosa Jane Simmonds ( re 1891 census)
Births Mar 1889 Simmonds Rosa Jane Cookham 2c 389
In the 1901 census she appears as just "Jane". So she could be known by her second as was Annie "Blanche" Simmonds?
marriage of Frederick George Simmonds? Marriages Mar 1880 Marks Ellen Cookham 2c 627 Simmonds Frederick George Cookham 2c 627
.Possible death for Ellen (mother)
Deaths Dec 1900 Simmonds Ellen 43 Maidenhead 2c 241
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4 Sep 2009 10:50 |
Thanks yet again Brenda, every item counts to putting the puzzle together. I must ease off with the searching for a few days as other interests and pursuits are getting neglected! Again many thanks Brenda. Terence.
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