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Thanks Brenda, that is food for thought regarding Nancy/Anne. I have sent an email to another GR member regarding this family.
Terence.

NANCY

Gender: Feminine

Usage: English

Previously a medieval diminutive of ANNIS, though since the 18th century it has been a diminutive of ANNE (1). It is now usually regarded as an independent name. During the 20th century it became very popular in the United States. A city in the Lorraine region of France bears this name, though it derives from a different source.


could she be your "Annie" ?

Many thanks again Brenda It looks like I have information for all of Daniel & Martha's children. There is one mystery that we (my sister and I) have still to find. That is, information of a "Nancy" who we remember as much as Elizabeth and William at around the same age in their 'twylight years'. We assumed that she was a child of D & M's family, but then thought she might have married into the family, but with all the information that you, Barb and others have so kindly found for me, I have not seen reference to a "Nancy" anywhere!
My next job is to put all the respective families of D & M together on one reference sheet and consider marriage certificates for the ones I don't have. Then I will go back to the Hazell/Meads side (with any of them going to Tasmania) and continue there, but I will check on this column regularly. Again, many, many thanks to all you 'helpers'.
Terence.

If you were to purchase this marriage certificate, then you could be sure that this was your "Annie"


Marriages Mar 1905
Searle Walter Edward Lewisham 1d 1219
Simmonds Sarah Annie Lewisham 1d 1219


The 1911 census (on page 2) would seem to support this .



Brenda

Believe that this is your John:-


1911 Census Household Transcript
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Name: Relationship to head: Marital Status: Years married: Sex: Age in 1911: Occupation: Where born:
SIMMONDS, JOHN HEAD MARRIED M 31 POLICE SERGEANT BERKS BIRHAM
SIMMONDS, EDITH WIFE MARRIED 8 F 34 DERBYSHIRE DERBY
SIMMONDS, ELSIE DAUGHTER F 8 LONDON LEWISHAM
SIMMONDS, HENRY SON M 2 LONDON LEWISHAM

SIMMONDS JOHN (RG14PN2413 RG78PN80 RD26 SD7 ED22 SN233)
Address 84 STANDEN ROAD WANDSWORTH County London
District Wandsworth Subdistrict Southfields
Enumeration District 22 Parish Wandsworth

marriage:-
Marriages Mar 1903
Partridge Edith Adelaide London C. 1c 1
Simmonds John London C. 1c 1



London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Edith Adelaide Partridge
Name: Edith Adelaide Partridge
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Spouse Name: John Simmonds
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 Feb 1903
Parish: All Hallows Lombard Street
County: London
Borough: City of London
Father Name: William Taylor Partridge
Spouse Father Name: Daniel Simmonds
Source Citation: Guildhall, All Hallows Lombard Street, Register of marriages, 1837 - 1937, P69/ALH4/A/A/01/Ms 17619


daughters birth:
Births Jun 1903
SIMMONDS Elsie Katherine Lewisham 1d 1180



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Elsie Katherine Symmonds
Name: Elsie Katherine Symmonds
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 26 Apr 1903
Father's Name: John Symmonds
Mother's Name: Edith Adelaide Symmonds
Parish: Saint Mary
Borough: Lewisham
County: Middlesex
Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Mary, Lewisham, Register of Baptisms, P86/MRY, Item 016

sons birth:-
Births Jun 1909
SIMMONDS Henry William Lewisham 1d 1106

possible further child from this marriage?
Births Sep 1913
Simmonds Eveline K mmn Partridge Wandsworth 1d 1383


the wifes birth:-
Births Mar 1877
PARTRIDGE Edith Adelaide Derby 7b 50



1881 England Census
about Edith A. Partridge
Name: Edith A. Partridge
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William T.
Mother's Name: Harriet K.
Gender: Female
Where born: Darley, Derbyshire, England

>>>>>>>>>>>Civil parish: Bisham
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Cookham
Sub-registration district: Cookham
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William T. Partridge 30 born Wycombe Bucks , Paper Maker
Harriet K. Partridge 29 born Bisham Berkshire
Edith A. Partridge 4 born Darley Derbyshire
Eveline A. J. Partridge 2 born Darley Derbyshire
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1317; Folio: 61; Page: 3;
Line: ; GSU roll: 1341320.


possible marriage for daughter Elsie:-

Marriages Dec 1927
Butler Alfred G ... Simmonds Romford 4a 1068
Simmonds Elsie K,,, Butler Romford 4a 1068
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And this birth for John?

Births Sep 1879
Simmonds John Cookham 2c 415



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Hi Terence,

Just a little correction...........I do NOT believe that Agnes Sarah Pithers married Henry son of Daniel and Martha.
The Henry born Eton ( Births Dec 1878 Simmonds Henry Eton 3a 522) appears to be the one that married her as shown by the 1911 census return on page 2.


This is most likely your Henry:-

Births Dec 1873
SIMMONDS Henry Cookham 2c 392

I have not been able to trace him however. He does not appear on the 1891 census with his parents.
Brenda

Hi all helpers. I now have Alfred William Simmonds (1875) marriage certificate, which shows his parents as Daniel and Martha. Yet all official documents show him as William. Which has caused me a lot of confusion. This seems to be the case with one or two others in his family that dropped their first names! Other documents show that there was a close relationship with Elizabeth Harriet and Catherine Margaret and their respective families in their twilight years.
Regarding the rest of that family, I have to search for details of John (Charles?) Simmonds 1880 bBisham. Reg: Cookham 2c 442?
I think we have Henry 1873 (although Brenda has him born 1878. Eton 3a 522? And Annie1884 married Walter Edward Searle?
Terence.

I was just about to search, fortunately I checked my threads first.
Thanks yet again Brenda.
Terence.

Death

Alfred W Simmonds age 82
Wycombe
2nd qtr 1958
vol 6a page 406


Jessie E Simmonds age 83
Wycombe
4th qtr 1958
vol 6a page 436

Thanks Barb, searched 11 years and it was the very next one!!
Terence.

Phyllis June's death was a little later Terry but not much

Death aged 39
1967 2nd qtr District Wycombe
Vol 6A Page 495

Thanks again Barb for the latest information. Regarding the death of Phyllis June Allen, I have saved all the quarters from Kenneth's birth, AMJ1952 to OND 1966. Maybe it was a little later, I have my doubts. I would not want anyone spending their time going over that which I have searched. I should go through the lists again and see If I have missed it.

I have yet to search for the deaths of Alfred William (bRuscombe 1876) and Jessie Simmonds (bMarlow 1875). ( I expect thier mariage certificate to arrive in a few days, to show who his father was). I think they died after their son Sidney (bBisham 1910) died prematurely in 1956. (Details of the family in 1911 are shown on page two of this column, (from Brenda).
Terence.

Here's some more

Marriage
David W Whitbourn to Frances E Field
1952 1st qtr District Maidenhead
Vol 6a Page 45

Birth
Frederick D Whitbourn
1953 1st qtr District Eton
Vol 6a Page 509

Do you have any idea when Phyllis June died, if so I'll have a look this afternoon

Barb

Many thanks again Barb for information on Kate 1899 and the 'Jervice' family in the early 1800's.
Terence.

I have the possible birth for Sarah Jervis and the marriage of her parents, both in Nettlebed, different spelling of surname

Sally Jarvice born 3 November 1817 christened 30 Nov 1817 daughter of John and Mary Labourer

Marriage 25 Nov 1815 after banns
John Jervice X and Mary Sarney X
Witnesses Thomas Simmonds and Sarah Sarney X

Here's a christening at All Saints Parish Church Marlow

19 Feb 1899 Kate Elizabeth Simmonds daughter of Alfred William & Jessie of The Causeway Marlow Alfred William is an engine driver

Barb

Hi Brenda and Barb,
This is fantastic from both of you and I do consider myself very, very lucky!!!! I have contacted Barb personally re the marriage certificate of Elizabeth to Francis Field.
It will now take me some time to place in my records the results of all your research and then contact people you have recommended.
How can I thank you enough for all your work. I am overwhelmed by your generosity. Bye for now, Terence.

1871 census says
Sarah was born Greys, Oxfordshire


1871 England Census
about Sarah Simonds
Name: Sarah Simonds
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Greys, Oxfordshire, England
Civil parish: Ruscombe
Town: Ruscombe
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wokingham
Sub-registration district: Wargrave
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 52
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Simonds 50
Sarah Simonds 53
Daniel Simonds 22
Robert Simonds 16
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1288; Folio: 57; Page: 10; GSU roll: 827856.

Sarahs death:-
Deaths Sep 1891
SIMMONDS Sarah age 74 Wokingham 2c 209


Daniels brother Robert married Lucy Holder

Marriages Jun 1882
Holden Lucy Bradfield 2c 587
Holder Lucy Bradfield 2c 587
Simmonds Robert Bradfield 2c 587


1891 England Census
about Robert Simmonds
Name: Robert Simmonds
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Oreen, Yettelbed

Civil parish: Stratfield Mortimer
Ecclesiastical parish: Stratfield Mortimer
Town: Stratfield Mortimer
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Bradfield
Sub-registration district: Tilehurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Simmonds 36
Lucy Simmonds 32
Edith M Simmonds 7
William Simmonds 6
Ernest G Dore 18
Richard L Gilby 19
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 990; Folio 77; Page 6; GSU roll: 6096100

Here's some brothers and sisters for Daniel

Mary Simmonds d of Robert & Sarah
born 11 Oct 1844 Christened 10 Nov 1844 Nettlebed

William born 25 Feb 1847 Christened 21 March 1847 Nettlebed

Jane born 10 Aug 1851 christened 7 Sept 1851

There was also another brother Robert who must have been born after 1853 as my disc only goes up to the end of that year

Sarah was born, according to the 1861 census in Nettlebed about 1817, I'll look for her now. Robert senior was born about 1820 in Whitchurch Oxfordshire, no disc for that so can't look for him. I can't find a marriage for them in Nettlebed either