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Paul

Paul Report 21 Mar 2010 19:37

My father's birth certificate has William Henry Patrick and Dorothy Patrick (formerly Preece) registered as his parents on his birth certificate (Malvern - 1922). Can anyone find marital proof of their union please?

Mary

Mary Report 21 Mar 2010 20:18

Can't find marriage info for you,was Dorothy ,Dorothy Emily Sybel Preece born 1905 Upton on Severn worcestershire.
I noticed William Henry registered in Upton 1922.

If she was underage maybe they just lived together.

Maryb

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Mar 2010 20:28

I can find nothing at all.
I have also had a look on Scotlandspeople,just in case.
Nothing there either..

Paul

Paul Report 21 Mar 2010 21:06

Than you for that, ladies. Mary, do you have a reference for that, please??

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Mar 2010 21:17

If you go here

freebmd.org.uk

You can search yourself,and it is free as it says...

Would you like the 1911 census for that name if I can find it?

Here it is anyway..

Registration District:
Upton on Severn Sub District:
Malvern EnumerationDistrict:
7 Parish:
Malvern Link

Address:
26 Redland Road Malvern Link County:
Worcestershire

PREECE, George Harry Head Married M 35 1876 Head Painter Tedbury Herefordshire
PREECE, Louisa Letitia Wife Married
7 years F 37 1874 Wife Worcester
PREECE, Constance Letitia Daughter F 7 1904 D Worcester
PREECE, Dorothy Emily Sybel Daughter F 6 1905 D Worcester

3 children born,1 died.

Paul

Paul Report 21 Mar 2010 21:54

Thank you so much. Really appreciate it!!

jansmith

jansmith Report 21 Mar 2010 21:57

interesting only marriage for
Dorothy E S Preece
Spouse Thomas E W Ainge
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1927
Registration district: Paddington
Registration county (inferred): London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 130

did your father have any siblings?

jansmith

jansmith Report 21 Mar 2010 22:01

death
Name: Dorothy Emily S Ainge
Birth Date: 24 Nov 1904
Death Registration Month/Year: 1976
Registration district: Bournemouth
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 23
Page: 0222

jansmith

jansmith Report 21 Mar 2010 22:02

do you know when Dorothy died?

Paul

Paul Report 21 Mar 2010 22:03

Thanks Jan. Not to my knowledge. Dad grew up believing he was adopted. He was the informant on his mother's death cert... Mary Jane Usher (formerly Patrick). Unless proven otherwise, I am of the belief that she was the sister of my dad's natural father.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Mar 2010 22:08

Interesting...

Marriages Dec 1936

Patrick Mary J Usher Upton 6c 503
Usher William H Patrick Upton 6c 503

Another William Henry(but Usher this time)??


When and where did Mary Jane Usher die?

??

Name: Mary J Usher
Death Registration Month/Year: 1962
Age at death (estimated): 70
Registration district: Worcester
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 9d
Page: 285

Paul

Paul Report 21 Mar 2010 22:15

Thank you FBG... I already have this certificate. The names listed are.... William Henry Usher (no mention of Patrick) and Mary Jane Patrick. Yes, the marriage is registered in Upton and yes, I do believe it is a different William Henry!!!

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Mar 2010 22:17

How old was Mary Jane ?
Fathers name etc..
Maybe we can find her on a census with a brother William Henry?

If you havent already that is..

Paul

Paul Report 21 Mar 2010 22:25

Sorry FBG... missed your earlier question. Mary Jane Usher was 70 when she died in Ronkswood Hospital, Worcester, 14th June 1962. On the marriage certificate she is stated as 45 years of age - spinster - father not listed. Interestingly her father is not listed on her birth cert either (Mary Jane Patrick - St. John's , Worcester - 4th August 1891).

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 21 Mar 2010 22:25

Name: Mary Jane Patrick
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Worcester
County: Hereford and Worcester, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 286


1901 England Census
about Jane Patrick
Name: Jane Patrick
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: St John, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Great Malvern
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Upton on Severn
Sub-registration district: Malvern
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 313
Household Members: Name Age
George Whatmore 75 >>>>>>>>>Living on own means, born St Johns, Wors, widow
Sarah Patrick 40 >>>>>>>>Niece, single born Staffs
Jane Patrick 9



Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2784; Folio: 183; Page: 47


1881 England Census
about Sarah Patrick
Name: Sarah Patrick
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Blackheath, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Great Malvern
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street Address: Chase Estate
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Servant

Registration district: Upton On Severn
Sub-registration district: Hanley Castle
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Whatmore 54
Mary Whatmore 55
Sarah Patrick 19


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2920; Folio: 131; Page: 48; GSU roll: 1341700.

1871 England Census
about Sarah Patrick
Name: Sarah Patrick
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jesse
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Rowley Regis
Ecclesiastical parish: Rowley Regis
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Rowley Regis
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 110
Household Members: Name Age
Jesse Patrick 40
Jane Patrick 39
Mary Patrick 12
Sarah Patrick 10
Phoebe Patrick 5<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Jesse Patrick 15 days
Ann Slim 24



Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2992; Folio: 116; Page: 19; GSU roll: 838871.

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 21 Mar 2010 22:35

1911

HOUSEHOLD PATRICK SARAH M 1861 50 Upton on Severn Worcestershire

HOUSEHOLD PATRICK PHOEBE F 1865 46 Upton on Severn Worcestershire

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Mar 2010 22:35

So where is she in 1911 then???
Come on Jan and LB,any ideas?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Mar 2010 22:37

Ok LB~~~~~

Address:
2 Ruby Cottages Wilton Road Malvern

PATRICK, Sarah Head Single M 50 1861 Charwoman Blackheath Staffs
PATRICK, Phoebe Sister Single F 46 1865 Nonr Blackheath Staffs

No Mary Jane though !

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 Mar 2010 22:41

But interestingly we have a DOROTHY PATRICK on 1911

PATRICK, Dorothy Servant Single F 19 1892 Servant Domestic Worcester Worcestershire
Registration District:
Fulham Sub District:
South Hammersmith EnumerationDistrict:
35 Parish:
Hammersmith

Address:
15 Aynhoe Road Brook Green W

and no corresponding on 1901?
And no birth for Dorothy Patrick in Worcestershire??

And no MARY jANE ON 1911?
And no marriage for her before then that could possibly be her..

Am I on the right track ladies?

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 21 Mar 2010 22:46

So is this Dorothy the mary Jane from the 1901?