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Ahh,so she is not a half sister then,but an adoptive sister as she is not of the same blood,if you see what I mean.
I dont mean that rudely,but dont know how else to phrase it.

Her birth details would therefore be of no use in your search as she has totally different birth parents.

And I was correct in thinking that Mary Jane /Dorothy was getting a little past childbearing.

I have searched again for ww1 records for W H Usher,but if he was in the army they(a) did not survive the blitz(b)have not been transcribed or (C)he was in a different force.

Good evening ladies. Sorry for delayed reply, only got in from work an hour ago!!!

Anyway, to answer your question... Dad's half sister, Susanne, was born in 1940 to an unmarried couple... Bruce Waring and Elsie Aldridge. The Usher's adopted Susanne when she was three years old.

Just what I had been going to ask when I signed on Maryb.
Being of the nosey variety of vivs.

I dont see an Usher / Patrick birth...
And also MaryJane/Dorothy was getting a little past it by the time she married Mr Usher.

Although my Paternal Gran did have her last one at 47..

When was the half sister born to Usher and Patrick?

Maryb

Your welcome Paul.

Nite~~~~

Listen, if I don't go to bed now I'll never get up for work in the morning and I have already taken up most of your evening. You've worked like a Trojan and for that I'm deeply grateful.

Thanks again Viv.

Your friend.

Paul Usher.

I have had a quick look for ww1 records for him,but none seem to be him/

I am off now but will have a look again tomorrow.

If you need help with this lot further,just drop a line on here and we ladies will try to oblige.

I do wish there was some real way to prove my theorys of your dads parentage though..

On here .but still very new to trusting my instinct/feeling in the water?,now I just let it have its head and get shot down in flames when I am wrong...!

Not often of course.:)
I wish..

Yes, the 1911 is a bulls-eye too!!!! On the Marriage cert, William Henry Usher is registered as living at 2, Daventry Street, Southam!!!

That is a direct hit, Viv. Thank you again. I know it's spot on because I have the newspaper cutting from when Dad's dad died in 1957. It names Harry and Annie as his sorrowing siblings!! Where were you when I started researching Dad's story three years ago!!!??????

This seems to be him in 1901 then..?

Registration District:
Southam Sub District:
Southam EnumerationDistrict:
21 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Southam St James

Civil Parish:
Southam Municipal Borough:
Address:
Appendix Street, Southam County:
Warwickshire

USHER, William Head Married M 33 1868 Quarry Man
Southam
Warwickshire
USHER, Sarah A Wife Married F 33 1868
Avon Dassett
Warwickshire
MARSHALL, Annie Daughter F 10 1891
Avon Dassett<<<more illegits or previous marriage child?
Warwickshire
USHER, William H Son M 8 1893
Southam
Warwickshire
USHER, Mary E Daughter F 6 1895
Southam
Warwickshire
USHER, Harry Son M 2 1899
Southam
Warwickshire
USHER, Arthur E Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1901
Southam
Warwickshire

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1911?
Registration District:
Southam Sub District:
Southam EnumerationDistrict:
22 Parish:
Southam

Address:
Southam County:
Warwickshire

USHER, Sarah Head Widow F 42 1869 Charwoman Avon Dassett
USHER, William Son Single M 18 1893 Labourer Cement Works Southam Warwickshire VIEW
USHER, Harry Son M 12 1899 School Southam Warwickshire
USHER, Arthur Son M 10 1901 School Southam Warwickshire
USHER, Wilfred Son M 2 1909 Southam Warwickshire

William Henry Usher's father was ALSO William Usher... a stone quarryman.

So him being married elsewhere before goes out the window than...
Did they look alike...the 2 Williams?

Fathers name and occupation?

I will see if I can find him in 1911 if you like..

Yes, William Henry Usher was a batchelor of 44 years of age and Mary Jane was a spinster of 45 years of age. registered at separate addresses 24th December 1936.

Well I do think Mary Jane / Dorothy was his mother...

So I wonder if William Henry Usher was his father?

Was he a bachelor on his marriage?

Was he married "elsewhere" and couldnt be seen to be your dads father until later so they cooked up his birth cert between them?

Your dad does have the same names,,very coincidental that....

I don't know where dad was from his birth in 1922 to 1936. Although in his later years he signed a statutory declaration document where he states... "the persons whom I understood to be my parents were known to me as William Henry Usher and Mary Jane Usher. The said William Henry Usher and Mary Jane Usher raised me as a child and I knew no other persons as my parents".

You are welcome Paul...
It was nice to work with someone that hung around to answer questions and add their thoughts..
So many dont sadly...


Edit..
Maryb,you are quite right..
But wait until they start searching for my 3,yes 3 marriages....
Ha,they will have fun there as I have left no docs for them...!
I am not married to any of the xxxs now

Nite Cassie~~~~

FBG

It's a good job you're the one doing your family tree......you'd be a right b*gger for your descendants to find otherwise LOL.

Mary

Thank you Viv and Cass for your efforts this evening. You've made a few things alot clearer in the space of a couple of hours!!!!

Thank you again. x x


Paul Usher.

Well done Viv!!

You've cracked it, right I'm off to bed, up at 6am.

Nite all ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~