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Kelly
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7 May 2009 20:13 |
hey thanks so much, yes this looks like her, well done, i have been trying for it seems ages thank you kelly x
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Stevie
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7 May 2009 21:24 |
Hi Kelly these are the two other births for surname King, mothers maiden name Jull. search range 1930 to 1950. But no sign of Henry.
Name: Walter E King Mother's Maiden Surname: Jull Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1935 Registration district: Deptford Registration county: Greater London Volume Number: 1d Page Number: 936
Name: Janet E King Mother's Maiden Surname: Jull Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1943 Registration district: Bedford Registration county: Cambridgeshire/Bedfordshire, Huntingtonshire, Northhamptonshire Volume Number: 3b Page Number: 526
Regards, Steve
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7 May 2009 21:31 |
Hi Kelly, I think this might be Henry. The image says Juff. But I wonder if the original is a typo?
Name: Henry King Mother's Maiden Surname: Juff Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1944 Registration district: Biggleswade Registration county: Cambridgeshire/Bedfordshire, Huntingtonshire, Northhamptonshire Volume Number: 3b Page Number: 642
Regards, Steve.
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Kelly
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7 May 2009 21:40 |
hey you are all really so very kind, i really do try and search, but i get no where, i cannot understand how you get this info, as on here and on ancestry, find my past and about everey other site there is which is costing a fortune, yet never come up with anything, i think its me but thank you so very much kelly
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Choccy
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7 May 2009 21:52 |
Hello Kelly,
Here's the marriage
KING, Walter E. JAS 1934 Deptford 1d 2453 JULL, Winifred E JAS 1934 Deptford 1d 2453
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Kelly
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7 May 2009 22:05 |
thank you so much
my kind regards to all kelly x
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Kelly
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7 May 2009 22:23 |
this part of the dreded king family is now at a close, thank goodness, i bet thats what your all saying to ha my regards kelly x
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Stevie
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7 May 2009 22:29 |
Possible births for Irene & Winifred Jull
Name: Doris Irene M Jull Year of Registration: 1909 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Faversham County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 1009
Name: Irene Jull Mother's Maiden Surname: Ditchburn Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1917 Registration district: Tynemouth Registration county: Cumberland, Northumberland/Westmorland Volume Number: 10b Page Number: 441
But there is no Winifred Jull 1902 to 1921
Prior to this there is one. A bit too early. Shed be 20 years older than Willaim Walter.
Name: Winifred Annie Jull Year of Registration: 1893 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Eastry County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 980
Regards Steve
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Choccy
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7 May 2009 22:38 |
1901 England Census Name: Walter King Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Peckham, London, England Civil Parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Divine County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 229 Household Members: Name Age Thomas King 47 Mary A King 46 Walter King 8 Julia Crabb 45 Florence Crabb 20 Frederick Crabb 19 Edith Crabb 18 Thomas Crabb 16 Julia Crabb 13 John Crabb 12 Robert Crabb 8 Kelly, ignore the Crabb family. They live next door and should not have been included with the Kings!
Thomas is a general dealer.
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Kelly
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7 May 2009 22:51 |
yes this is them, walter king 1893, died 30/0ctober 1953 in biggin hill, bromley, buried in cudham, kent
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Choccy
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7 May 2009 23:11 |
Kelly, I know you will think I am mad, but try this one. I know it doesn't say 'King', but surnames were often mis-transcribed.
I know you think he was born in 1893, but if he was born in late 1892 he would have been 8 on the 1901 census.
If you apply for the certificate and specify that the father's name must be Thomas and the mother's name must be Mary, the GRO will check and will not issue it if the parents' names are not right.
Births Dec 1892 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keen Walter Camberwell 1d 868
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Kelly
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7 May 2009 23:21 |
no i dont think that, if you were to check my spelling my goodness you would find some mistakes, i will order that now, its the nearest i have been for a long time thank you so very much i will let you know,they are taking about a week
my regards kelly
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Kelly
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22 May 2009 13:13 |
hi just to say the marriage choccy found for me is wrong, i received the marriage cert today, and nothing is right on it, so i am still trying to find the right marriage for william or walter king in 1934 ish any help appreciated
many thank kelly
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Stevie
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22 May 2009 20:35 |
Hi Kelly, sorry to see that the marriage cert was incorrect.
Have you been able to acquire any of the birth certs for their children?
This would confirm the mothers name. As if I recall correctly, there was some uncertainty as whether her 1st name was Irene or Winifred.
Regards, Steve.
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Stevie
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22 May 2009 22:22 |
Hi Kelly, Just another thought.
As the marriage cert you received is not the correct one. I now think that the birth info I provided for Walter E King 1935. Is a son of that marriage & not of the family you are looking for. Reason being is that place of both birth & marriage is Deptford, and the name of the man in the marriage cert is also Walter E King.
Regards, Steve
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Kelly
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31 May 2009 08:09 |
JANET AND HENRY KING hope i have set this out properly
i received JANET'S birth certificate and the KINGS are up to it again, ? JANET'S mother was winifred jull, fathers name walter w king, so he has dropped william which was his first name
they moved to bedfordshire in the war years where janet and her brother HENRY were born, and returned to london after,
WALTER or WILLIAM KING was in the merchant navy which was confirmed on janet's birth cert he was a coal porter on board ship.
i am now trying to find there marriage, i can only think that he used walter and not william ?
this king family is a nightmare ?
thanks all kelly
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31 May 2009 21:56 |
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Stevie
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2 Jun 2009 21:20 |
Have PM'd this info to Kelly. Putting this up here as well to keep it all together. _________________________________________________________ Hi Kelly, So Walters wife, is Winifred Jull. You said that the marriage cert that you received for Walter & Winifred was wrong. What was wrong about the details in the cert?
I've look for her birth reg & only found 3 entries for Jull with Winifred in the 1st names:
Name: Winifred Annie Jull Year of Registration: 1893 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Eastry County: Kent Volume: 2a Page: 980
Name: Marjory Winifred Jull Year of Registration: 1906 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Luton County: Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire Volume: 3b Page: 397
Name: Winifred M Jull Mother's Maiden Surname: Wood Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1929 Registration district: Milton Registration county: Surrey,Kent Volume Number: 2a Page Number: 1729
The 1st Winifred born 1893 died in 1911. And the 3rd on too young as she'd have been only 8yrs old when Georgina was born. This only leaves Marjory Winifred Jull as a possible candidate.
Also with there only being these 3 Winifred Julls, I'd be very surprised (not impossible though), if two of them both happened to marry Walter Kings.
Regards, Steve.
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