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KAREN
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15 Feb 2011 19:47 |
Please can any one help? Trying to trace my great grandparents Rhoda Hobbs and Frank Brooks, I can find no record. They had daughter Edith Lucy Brooks DOB 24/02/13 (my grandmother) who was born in Stockport. Her mother was born ? Oxfordshire.
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Lynski
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15 Feb 2011 19:53 |
Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%) Brooks Frank Bicester 3a 2443 Hobbs Rhoda Bicester 3a 2443
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Lynski
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15 Feb 2011 20:14 |
It is not easy to pinpoint Rhoda and Frank in the 1911 census. You would need to get their marriage certificate to find out their father's names. Do you know if they had any brothers or sisters?
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Catherine
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15 Feb 2011 20:19 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%) Brooks Frank Bicester 3a 2443 Hobbs Rhoda Bicester 3a 2443
Brooks Frank 1884 Oxford Hampstead 1911 census
Was his death in Stockport in 1939?
Did they have other children? If where?
Can't find a Rhoda Hobbs born Oxfordshire
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KAREN
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15 Feb 2011 20:19 |
Thank you so much. I have no further information, however I have been told in the past that Rhoda was from ? wealthy family, and she was cut off from her family, because she fell in love with Frank who was the head gardener.I`m afraid that`s all I know.
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Catherine
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15 Feb 2011 20:25 |
1891 census: Name: Frank Brooks Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1881 Relation: Son Father's name: Henry John Brooks Mother's name: Rachel Brooks Gender: Male Where born: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Cowley Ecclesiastical parish: Cowley St John Town: Oxford County/Island: Oxfordshire Country: England Registration district: Headington Sub-registration district: St Clement ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry John Brooks 35 Rachel Brooks 34 Henry George Brooks 11 Frank Brooks 10 Joseph Sidney Brooks 7 Alice Rebecca Brooks 6 May Victoria Brooks 4 William Brooks 2 Herbert Thomas Pike 47
1901: Name: Frank Brooks Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1881 Gender: Male Where born: Camley St John, Oxfordshire, England Civil Parish: Wigginton Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew Town: Wigginton County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Berkhampstead Sub-registration district: Tring ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 141 Household Members: Name Age Herbert Walker 37 Caroline Walker 36 Georgina Walker 13 Bertie Walker 10 Ernest Walker 6 Edward Matthews 21 Frank Brooks 20 Arthur L Goodege 17 James F Wells 38 Catherine Wells 32 Catherine A Wells 8 David Wells 6 James F Wells 4 Catherine A Wells 62
Only possibilities at this time.
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**Ann**
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15 Feb 2011 20:26 |
Thia may be Frank.........1911 census - household transcription Person: BROOKS, Frank Address: 10 Divi St Heaton Norris Stockport Cost: You will be charged 10 credits for a transcript and 30 credits for an image, unless you have purchased a subscription for this set of records. census search results 1911 address search redefine current search Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ATKIN, Peter Head Married 23 years M 60 1851 Bleacher Heaton Mersey Lancashire VIEW ATKIN, Ann Wife Married 23 years F 59 1852 Heaton Norris Lancashire VIEW BROOKS, Frank Boarder Single M 30 1881 Gardener Jobbing Oxford Cowley and St Johns Resident VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 21387 Reference: RG14PN21387 RG78PN1272 RD443 SD5 ED2 SN525 Registration District: Stockport Sub District: Stockport Second Enumeration District: 2 Parish: Stockport Address: 10 Divi St Heaton Norris Stockport County: Cheshire
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Catherine
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15 Feb 2011 20:26 |
The Frank brooks in 1901 is a gardener.
Catherine
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Lynski
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15 Feb 2011 20:28 |
If you have no other information, the best thing to do is get their marriage certificate to see how old they stated they were, their father's names and names of witnesses which might give clues.
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Lynski
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15 Feb 2011 20:33 |
???Found this in 1911 census -
The surname on the original looks like Hobbs to me.
HOBBI, Rhoda Servant Single F 31 1880 Housemaid Hampshire Petersfield
RG number: RG14 Piece: 7076 Reference: RG14PN7076 RD130 SD1 ED9 SN151 Registration District: Hendon Sub District: Harrow Enumeration District: 9 Parish: Harrow on the Hill Address: The Duries High Street Harrow-On-The-Hill County: Middlesex
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Catherine
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15 Feb 2011 20:39 |
Both the dates in the 1911 census that Ann posted for FB and the 1911 census that Lynne posted for RH fit with the deaths of Frank Brooks in Stockport in 1939 and Rhoda Brooks in Stockport in 1966.
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15 Feb 2011 20:39 |
1901 census - household transcription Address: Langhurst House, Chiddingfold Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born BOYD, Elizth Head Widow F 42 1859 Living On Own Means Manchester Lancashire BOYD, Hugh F Son M 10 1891 Kensington London BOYD, Juliana F Daughter F 8 1893 Kensington London BOYD, Mary E F Daughter F 2 1899 Kensington London TINDALL, Constance E Servant Single F 25 1876 Governess Manchester Lancashire TAYLOR, Ann Servant Single F 32 1869 Nurse Domestic Manden Bedfordshire COLEMAN, Maria Servant Single F 27 1874 Cook Domestic Houghton Hampshire STANDING, M A Servant Single F 27 1874 Par Maid Domestic Horsham Sussex COLLISTER, Mary Servant Single F 32 1869 Housemaid Domestic Bletchingley Surrey HOBBS, Rhoda Servant Single F 21 1880 Kitchen Maid Domestic Petersfield Hampshire
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15 Feb 2011 20:40 |
1891 census ..... I think the head of house is actually David not Daniel Address: Chapel Street, Petersfield Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born HOBBS, Daniel E Head Married M 38 1853 Blacksmith & Iron Monger Clanfield Hampshire HOBBS, Harriett E Wife Married F 30 1861 Portsmouth Hampshire HOBBS, Rhoda Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar Petersfield Hampshire HOBBS, William E Son M 10 1881 Scholar Petersfield Hampshire HOBBS, Ada E Daughter F 1 1890 Petersfield Hampshire
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KAREN
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15 Feb 2011 22:36 |
the mesage left by Lynne re..1911 census Rhoda Hobbs has the same address, that`s on a letter I have from a Jack Hobbs (The Duries,High Street, Harrow on the Hill) so looks a good match.However don`t know who he is yet , I do know he`s not THE Jack Hobbs (cricketer)Thanks to you all for helping.
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15 Feb 2011 22:45 |
Hi
The Druries on The High Street, Harrow on the Hill is one of the houses/ boarding houses of Harrow Public School
http://www.harrowschool.org.uk/1550/boarding/druries/
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15 Feb 2011 23:14 |
Daniel changes his name for 1901 census - household transcription Address: 23, Chapel Street, Petersfield Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born HOBBS, David E Head Married M 48 1853 Blacksmith Clanfield Hampshire HOBBS, Harriet E Wife Married F 40 1861 Portsmouth Hampshire HOBBS, William E Son Single M 18 1883 Blacksmith Petersfield Hampshire HOBBS, Ada E Daughter F 11 1890 Petersfield Hampshire HOBBS, Bessie D Daughter F 8 1893 Petersfield Hampshire HOBBS, Joseph Son M 3 1898 Petersfield Hampshire
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15 Feb 2011 23:17 |
1911 census Address: 23 Chapel Street Petersfield Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born HOBBS, David Edwin Head Married M 58 1853 Blacksmith And Wheelwright Clanfield Hants HOBBS, Harriet Elzia Wife Married 25 years F 50 1861 Portsmouth Hants HOBBS, William Edgar Son Single M 27 1884 Blacksmith Petersfield Hants HOBBS, Ada Elsie Daughter Single F 21 1890 Telephone Operator Petersfield Hants HOBBS, Bessie Dewey Daughter Single F 18 1893 Student Teacher Petersfield Hants HOBBS, Joseph Son M 13 1898 School Petersfield Hants ELOY, Flora Visitor Single F 36 1875 Assistant Teacher Dover Petersfield Kent Hants
hmmm ................. original says married 25 years, 4 children born to marriage, 3 still alive in 1911
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15 Feb 2011 23:28 |
1881 census - household transcription Address: Dragon St, Petersfield Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born HOBBS, David E Head Married M 28 1853 Blacksmith Clanfield Hampshire HOBBS, Lucy Wife Married F 26 1855 East Meon Hampshire HOBBS, Rhoda Daughter Single F 2 1879 Petersfield Hampshire HOBBS, William E Son Single M 0 1881 Petersfield Hampshire HOBBS, James Brother Single M 22 1859 Blacksmith Assistant Clanfield Hampshire KINGSHOTT, George Alber Nephew Single M 15 1866 Blacksmith Assistant Micheldever Hampshire GARDNER, Moses Lodger Widower M 67 1814 Blacksmith Assistant Up Marden Sussex
looks like Rhoda and William were from first marriage if we have the correct family here and Ada, Bessie and Joseph were from the second marriage
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Lynski
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15 Feb 2011 23:50 |
Just a thought.......
Jack is very often another name for John so keep this in mind when wondering who Jack Hobbs is - he could be John Hobbs?
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KAREN
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16 Feb 2011 09:12 |
It looks like could be on right track,because of letter with same address and also I have heard of an Aunt Ada mentioned! Unfortunately I have no one to ask, my family have passed away,doing research now, for my young sons.Thank you for all help given, very grateful.
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