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KAREN
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22 Feb 2011 18:44 |
Thank you, Margaret. Tracing family is addictive! I have been led to believe that Rhoda was cut off from her family, because she married a gardener, obviously it would be fascinating to find out if that were true.Harriet was her step mother, don`t know if they got on, was that the real reason?
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Margaret
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22 Feb 2011 10:06 |
1901 census David E Hobbs born 1853 Clanfield Hants a blacksmith Harriet E born 1861 Portsmouth William E born 1883 a blacksmith born Petersfield Hants Ada born 1890 Petersfield Bessie born 1893 Petersfield Joseph born 1898 Petersfield
1861 Joseph Hobs a Master Blacksmith born 1823 Clanfield Hants Jane D born 1824 Catherine Arms??Hants Joseph D Assistant Blacksmith born 1847 Clanfield Hants Ann Sarah born 1851 Clanfield ditto DAVID EDWIN born 1853 Clanfield Hants Julia born 1854 ditto Mary 1856 ditto James 1858 ditto Betsy Caroline 1860 ditto.
1841 Joseph Hobs 20 yrs a Blacksmith born Hants his father William Hobs 45 yr molecatcher born Hants c 1796 Ma Ann 40 yr born c 1801 Hants siblings John 15yr bc 1826 Henry 13 yr bc 1828 David 11 yrs bc 1830 Thomas 2 yrs born circa 1839
Hope this helps Please bear in mind that the family comes from Clanfield Hampshire, not from Clanfield Oxfordshire.
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Margaret
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22 Feb 2011 09:36 |
To save you buying the marriage certificate of Frank Brooks and Rhoda Hobbs Stratton Audley Oxfordshire 14/8/1811 Frank Brooks 30 yrs bachelor Gardener of Heaton Norris Stockport, son of Henry John Brooks a labourer Rhoda Hobbs 31 yrs spinster of Stratton Audley daughter of David Edwin Hobbs a blacksmith witnesses Joseph Sidney Brooks, Alice Rebecca Brooks married by Banns
Rhoda Hobbs was not baptised in Stratton Audley, nor was her father David Edwin Hobbs.
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KAREN
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20 Feb 2011 11:30 |
Traced Rhoda Hobbs mother back to 1785,and made contact with distant relatives in Devon, Thank you! Tracing Frank Brooks now, hope I do as well.
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17 Feb 2011 18:01 |
wrong year but...
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about William Edgar Hobbs Name: William Edgar Hobbs Year of Registration: 1881 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Petersfield County: Hampshire, Sussex Volume: 2c Page: 156 or
maybe he swapped his names around??
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Edgar William Hobbs Year of Registration: 1883 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Portsea Island (1837-1900) County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 461
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17 Feb 2011 17:57 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Ada Elsie Hobbs Year of Registration: 1890 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Petersfield County: Hampshire, Sussex Volume: 2c Page: 134 and
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Joseph Hobbs Year of Registration: 1897 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Petersfield County: Hampshire, Sussex Volume: 2c Page: 162
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17 Feb 2011 17:50 |
Bessie's birth cert will give Harriet's maiden name
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Bessie Dewey Hobbs Year of Registration: 1893 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Petersfield County: Hampshire, Sussex Volume: 2c Page: 147 possible death
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 Name: Bessie Dewey Hobbs Birth Date: 4 Jan 1893 Death Registration Month/Year: 1972 Registration district: Portsmouth Inferred County: Hampshire Volume: 6b Page: 1231
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17 Feb 2011 17:36 |
possibility re marriage to Harriet
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 Name: David Edwin Hobbs Year of Registration: 1886 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Portsea Island (1837-1900) County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 780 there are only 3 people on the record, give me time and I'll have a look to see if I can find who the missing woman is
>>>edit think this is Harriet (found eventually, same page etc) her maiden name is similar to Bessie's middle name
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915 Name: Harriett Eliza Deway Year of Registration: 1886 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Portsea Island (1837-1900) County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 780
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17 Feb 2011 17:27 |
Hi Karen,
on the 1911 census I posted previously, there are 4 children in the family; William, Ada, Bessie and Joseph.
William is 27 years old, I should imagine he is David's son from the first marriage. Therefore the 3 surviving children from the 2nd marriage to Harriet are Ada, Bessie and Joseph.
Flora is a visitor
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KAREN
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17 Feb 2011 13:40 |
Rhoda`s father David Edwin Hobbs born 1853 in Clanfield,Oxfordshire married his second wife Harriet ,and according to the 1911 census they had been married for 25yrs, therefore 1911-25=1886.I can find no marriage record, also states that there were 4 children born to the marriage and 3 still alive in 1911, however all four are listed on the census,and I can find no death record for any of them. There are two other children from a previous marriage between David Edwin Hobbs and Lucy Kinshott.....Rhoda and William.Can anyone help? I seem to be going round in circles, and I haven`t even started on my other grandparents yet!!!
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KAREN
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16 Feb 2011 09:12 |
It looks like could be on right track,because of letter with same address and also I have heard of an Aunt Ada mentioned! Unfortunately I have no one to ask, my family have passed away,doing research now, for my young sons.Thank you for all help given, very grateful.
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15 Feb 2011 23:50 |
Just a thought.......
Jack is very often another name for John so keep this in mind when wondering who Jack Hobbs is - he could be John Hobbs?
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15 Feb 2011 23:28 |
1881 census - household transcription Address: Dragon St, Petersfield Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born HOBBS, David E Head Married M 28 1853 Blacksmith Clanfield Hampshire HOBBS, Lucy Wife Married F 26 1855 East Meon Hampshire HOBBS, Rhoda Daughter Single F 2 1879 Petersfield Hampshire HOBBS, William E Son Single M 0 1881 Petersfield Hampshire HOBBS, James Brother Single M 22 1859 Blacksmith Assistant Clanfield Hampshire KINGSHOTT, George Alber Nephew Single M 15 1866 Blacksmith Assistant Micheldever Hampshire GARDNER, Moses Lodger Widower M 67 1814 Blacksmith Assistant Up Marden Sussex
looks like Rhoda and William were from first marriage if we have the correct family here and Ada, Bessie and Joseph were from the second marriage
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15 Feb 2011 23:17 |
1911 census Address: 23 Chapel Street Petersfield Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born HOBBS, David Edwin Head Married M 58 1853 Blacksmith And Wheelwright Clanfield Hants HOBBS, Harriet Elzia Wife Married 25 years F 50 1861 Portsmouth Hants HOBBS, William Edgar Son Single M 27 1884 Blacksmith Petersfield Hants HOBBS, Ada Elsie Daughter Single F 21 1890 Telephone Operator Petersfield Hants HOBBS, Bessie Dewey Daughter Single F 18 1893 Student Teacher Petersfield Hants HOBBS, Joseph Son M 13 1898 School Petersfield Hants ELOY, Flora Visitor Single F 36 1875 Assistant Teacher Dover Petersfield Kent Hants
hmmm ................. original says married 25 years, 4 children born to marriage, 3 still alive in 1911
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15 Feb 2011 23:14 |
Daniel changes his name for 1901 census - household transcription Address: 23, Chapel Street, Petersfield Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born HOBBS, David E Head Married M 48 1853 Blacksmith Clanfield Hampshire HOBBS, Harriet E Wife Married F 40 1861 Portsmouth Hampshire HOBBS, William E Son Single M 18 1883 Blacksmith Petersfield Hampshire HOBBS, Ada E Daughter F 11 1890 Petersfield Hampshire HOBBS, Bessie D Daughter F 8 1893 Petersfield Hampshire HOBBS, Joseph Son M 3 1898 Petersfield Hampshire
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15 Feb 2011 22:45 |
Hi
The Druries on The High Street, Harrow on the Hill is one of the houses/ boarding houses of Harrow Public School
http://www.harrowschool.org.uk/1550/boarding/druries/
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KAREN
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15 Feb 2011 22:36 |
the mesage left by Lynne re..1911 census Rhoda Hobbs has the same address, that`s on a letter I have from a Jack Hobbs (The Duries,High Street, Harrow on the Hill) so looks a good match.However don`t know who he is yet , I do know he`s not THE Jack Hobbs (cricketer)Thanks to you all for helping.
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15 Feb 2011 20:40 |
1891 census ..... I think the head of house is actually David not Daniel Address: Chapel Street, Petersfield Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born HOBBS, Daniel E Head Married M 38 1853 Blacksmith & Iron Monger Clanfield Hampshire HOBBS, Harriett E Wife Married F 30 1861 Portsmouth Hampshire HOBBS, Rhoda Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar Petersfield Hampshire HOBBS, William E Son M 10 1881 Scholar Petersfield Hampshire HOBBS, Ada E Daughter F 1 1890 Petersfield Hampshire
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15 Feb 2011 20:39 |
1901 census - household transcription Address: Langhurst House, Chiddingfold Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born BOYD, Elizth Head Widow F 42 1859 Living On Own Means Manchester Lancashire BOYD, Hugh F Son M 10 1891 Kensington London BOYD, Juliana F Daughter F 8 1893 Kensington London BOYD, Mary E F Daughter F 2 1899 Kensington London TINDALL, Constance E Servant Single F 25 1876 Governess Manchester Lancashire TAYLOR, Ann Servant Single F 32 1869 Nurse Domestic Manden Bedfordshire COLEMAN, Maria Servant Single F 27 1874 Cook Domestic Houghton Hampshire STANDING, M A Servant Single F 27 1874 Par Maid Domestic Horsham Sussex COLLISTER, Mary Servant Single F 32 1869 Housemaid Domestic Bletchingley Surrey HOBBS, Rhoda Servant Single F 21 1880 Kitchen Maid Domestic Petersfield Hampshire
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Catherine
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15 Feb 2011 20:39 |
Both the dates in the 1911 census that Ann posted for FB and the 1911 census that Lynne posted for RH fit with the deaths of Frank Brooks in Stockport in 1939 and Rhoda Brooks in Stockport in 1966.
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