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William John Reynolds, b abt 1868 London

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WDYTYA

WDYTYA Advisor Report 22 Feb 2013 11:43

Hi, We're looking for help in finding the birth details for the above. He married in 1899, age 31, and his father was listed as Henry William Reynolds (occupation hatter). We have order birth certificate for the William John who is listed top of the search results, but this was wrong father. We can find father in census all the way through but no mention of son. Can anyone help uncover where and when he was actually born. Thank you.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 22 Feb 2013 12:54

Some extra info. whilst I browse...

William's earlier marriage....

Name: William John Reynolds ........labourer
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Age: 21
Spouse Name: Ellen Trattle
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Jan 1889
Parish: Bromley St Leonard St Mary
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Henry William Reynolds ...journeyman hatter
Register Type: Parish Register

Choccy

Choccy Report 22 Feb 2013 13:09


maybe connected -

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Annie Harriet Reynolds
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Age: 19
Spouse Name: Fredrick Herbert Bisgrove
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Oct 1886
Parish: Hoxton St John
Borough: Hackney
>>>>>Father Name: Henry William Reynolds - occupation Hatter
Spouse Father Name: William Bisgrove
Register Type: Parish Register




same address as on marriage certificate -

1891


RG number RG12
Piece: 243
Folio: 50
Page: 2
Reg. District: Shoreditch
Sub District: Shoreditch South
Parish: Shoreditch
Enum. District: 15
Ecclesiastical District: St Leonard
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 62, Hoxton Street, Shoreditch
County: London


>>>>>REYNOLDS, Henry Head Married M 54 1837 Silk Hat Maker
Bethnal Green, London
REYNOLDS, Ann Wife Married F 44 1847
Mile End New Town, London
REYNOLDS, Caroline Daughter Single F 21 1870 Glove Fastener
Mile End New Town, London
REYNOLDS, Amelia Daughter Single F 19 1872
Bethnal Green, London
REYNOLDS, Oscar Son Single M 17 1874 Hatter
Bethnal Green, London
REYNOLDS, Colian Daughter Single F 15 1876 Scholar
Bethnal Green, London
REYNOLDS, Florence Daughter Single F 13 1878 Scholar
Bethnal Green, London
REYNOLDS, Harry Son Single M 10 1881 Scholar
Bethnal Green, London

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 22 Feb 2013 13:33

Probably Ann found by Choccy....

Name: Ann Harriet Reynolds
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 27 Sep 1868 .......born 30 August
Father's Name: Henry William Reynolds .........hatter
Mother's name: Ann Reynolds
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Matthias
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Living at 3 Pelham Street.

So unlikely that William John was also born in 1868 if this is the same family.

WDYTYA

WDYTYA Advisor Report 22 Feb 2013 13:52

Thanks Gwyn & Choccy

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 22 Feb 2013 14:10

Probable marriage of Henry and Ann.........

Name: Henry William Reynolds ..........hatter..of 10 Green Street
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Age: 26
Spouse Name: Ann Hitchcock ....of 19 Green Street
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Nov 1867
Parish: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register

Choccy

Choccy Report 22 Feb 2013 14:23



could he have been born pre-marriage, ie Henry William Hitchcock?



EDIT - thanks Sylvia - having a senior moment - I mean William John Hitchcock.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 22 Feb 2013 19:35

Choccy


do you mean born as William John Hitchcock?????

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 23 Feb 2013 02:04

Interesting that William John went from being a Labourer on his first marriage in 1889 to Engine Driver on his second marriage in 1899

Choccy

Choccy Report 23 Feb 2013 07:12



Thanks Sylvia -

Have edited my posting about Henry William Hitchcock! I did mean William John Hitchcock.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 23 Feb 2013 07:24

It happens to us all!! :-D :-D :-D

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 23 Feb 2013 10:39

Where is William John in 1891.... any clue to birthplace?

Gwyn

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 23 Feb 2013 12:01

Trying to track locations in the hope of viewing census................

Is this a child of the 1st marriage..?
Name: Ellen Margaret Eliza Reynolds
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 28 Dec 1891 ....born 7 December
Father's Name: William John Reynolds ....labourer
Mother's name: Ellen Reynolds
Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address shown as 39 Halley Street.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Feb 2013 12:06

1891 for 39 Halley street:

BOSS, Jno Thos Head Married M 33 1858 Stoker Ratcliffe, London
BOSS, Emma Elizh Wife Married F 31 1860 St George's, London
BOSS, Christiana Daughter Single F 12 1879 Scholar Stepney, London
BOSS, Jas William Son Single M 7 1884 Scholar Limehouse, London
BOSS, Emma Rebecca Adopted Child Single F 6 1885 Scholar Limehouse, London
BOSS, Rose Elizth Daughter Single F 4 1887 Scholar Limehouse, London
BOSS, William Geo Son Single M 2 1889 Limehouse, London
BOSS, Ethel Daughter F 0 1891 Limehouse, London
REYNOLDS, Jno Wm Head Lodger Married M 23 1868 Labourer General Bethnal Green, London
REYNOLDS, Ellen Wife Married F 20 1871 Stepney, London
REYNOLDS, Elizth Ellen Daughter Single F 0 1891 Limehouse, London

RG number: RG12 Piece: 295 Folio: 71 Page: 11
Sub District: Limehouse
Enumeration District: 9
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Johns
Municipal Borough: Tower Hamlets

Address: 39, Halley Street, Limehouse, London, Tower Hamlets County: London

The Reynolds are a separate household but sharing the same address as the Boss family.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 23 Feb 2013 12:07

...and another..?

Name: William John Reynolds
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 15 Oct 1893 .....born 27 September 1893
Father's Name: William John Reynolds .................labourer
Mother's name: Ellen Reynolds
Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address unclear... ....102 B ??? son Road

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 23 Feb 2013 12:16

In 1901...if I have the correct linked baptisms, William John should be in 109 Canal Road

Gwyn

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 23 Feb 2013 12:26

Have you ruled out this birth...?

Births Jun 1867
Reynolds William John ... Bethnal Green 1c 234

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 Feb 2013 12:34

109 Canal Road in 1901:

REYNOLDS, William J Head Married M 33 1868 Engine Driver & Stoker Bethnal Green, London
REYNOLDS, Florance Wife Married F 29 1872 Electrical Station St Georges E, London
REYNOLDS, Hellen Daughter F 10 1891 Stepney, London
REYNOLDS, Florence Daughter F 0 (11 MOS) 1901 Mile End, London

Piece: 337 Folio: 105 Page: 9
Registration District: Mile End Old Town
Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town

Address: 109, Canal Road, Mile End Old Town County: London

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Mar 2013 18:40

pm from Angela:

"Hi MarieCeleste,
This is the correct William John Reynolds I'm looking for with his first wife Ellen and daughter also named Ellen.
However, it is his birth birth details that I can't find.
His marriage cert shows his father as Henry William Reynolds, a hatter by trade.
This is my brickwall. The Henry William Reynolds, hatter did not have a son named William John!!
Angie"

K

K Report 6 Mar 2013 20:37

I keep coming back to this William J Reynolds in 1881. I cannot see him or mother in 1871 or post 1891

Posting on the chance is has some relavance and the possiblity that Henry had a child pre marriage

1881

REYNOLDS, Eliza Head Widow F 30 1851 Match Box Maker (M D)
Bethnal Green, Middlesex
REYNOLDS, William J Son Single M 15 1866 Works At Splint Factory (Woodturner)
Bethnal Green, Middlesex
REYNOLDS, Albert T Son Single M 5 1876
Stepney, Middlesex

Piece: 482

Folio: 136

Page: 44

Registration District: Mile End Old Town

Civil Parish: Mile End Old Town

Municipal Borough:

Address: 45, Cadiz St, Mile End Old Town

County: London, Middlesex