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im going to sit down over the weekend and try and get my head around all of this
and re visit my family tree and check facks thankyou for all your help and time

julie

There's no marriage in England/Wales for Round to Daphne J, so could this be relevant - albeit with very inaccurate birth year.

Perhaps she was one who fibbed about her age

First name(s) Daphne Joan
Last name Round
Gender Female
Birth day 24
Birth month 6
Birth year 1941
Death quarter 3
Death year 1993
District Wrekin
District number 7161A
Register number 13A
Entry number 178
Date of registration mm/yy 0993
County Shropshire

First name(s) Albert
Last name Round
Birth year 1905
Birth date 03 Apr 1905
Event year 1912
School name Corbett Street School
Town Smethwick
County Staffordshire
Country England
Parent name(s) George Henry
Book type Admissions
Archive reference ES-SCS_2_2_4
Folio / page no. 35
Archive Sandwell Community History & Archives Service
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914

You say he joined up in 1921 - he would have been only 16


This one's a clerk, which is what your grandfather was

First name(s) Albert
Last name Round
Gender Male
Age 20
Birth year 1905
Occupation Clerk
Departure year 1925
Departure day 29
Departure month 9
Departure port London
Destination port Melbourne
Destination Melbourne
State Victoria
Country Australia
Destination country Australia
Ship name Baradine

Not sure why the above was transcribed, as it's scored through on the original, indicating that he didn't travel

Also crossed out on this earlier one............

First name(s) Albert
Last name Round
Gender Male
Age 20
Birth year 1905
Occupation Clerk
Departure year 1925
Departure day 3
Departure month 9
Departure port London
Destination port Melbourne
Destination Melbourne
State Victoria
Country Australia
Destination country Australia

BUT......if it's your man, he was a civilian

Sorry, I assumed you’d understand about Janet’s name - I told you she’d married - and when - so you could look it up yourself.

You say that Albert and Amy had two children.

If you search on FreeBMD for births with surname Round, and mother's surname Whiting, you will see there were three children, as I said before.

The third one's name was Daphne - but I can't see any records apart from her birth.


https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Buck was her married name. The record posted by ErikaH is her death record.

She married in Leeds in 1969.

Before marriage her name was Round.

Im a little confused about the daughter Janet Susan Buck why her surname is buck not Round or Smith

Amy and Albert did have 2 children one Neville he was killed when he was 6 he was born in Ipswich I think and Phyllis my mother was born in Sutton Bridge Lincs 1931
My mother was married twice and recently passed away aged 88

I cannot thank you all enough for your help
I wished I had carried on while my mum was still here

I know there will be more help I will require and may call upon you all again if I may

Oops, so it is!

In which case -
two children in Suffok, and one in Lincs.

Ipswich is in Suffolk ;-) ;-)

Albert and Amy also had three children, registered in Lincolnshire, 1929-35.

This one died young:

Births Jun 1929 (>99%)
Round Nevil J Whiting Ipswich 4a 1659

Deaths Mar 1936 (>99%)
Round Neville J 6 Ipswich 4a 1361


The second child may have married twice, in Lancaster RD, is on the 2018 ER for that area, and appears to still be living there.

I don't see the third child in later life

A daughter was born to Albert and Lorna prior to their marriage

She married in 1969 and, sadly, died very young

First name(s) Janet Susan
Last name Buck
Death year 1983
Death date 18 Dec 1983
Probate year 1984
Probate date 28 Mar 1984
Residence town Leeds
Registry Leeds

A further possible daughter's birth is on freebmd

Baptism: 22 Jul 1942 Holy Trinity, Poulton-le-Sands, Lancashire, England
Charles James Smith - [Child] of James Smith & Lorna Doreen
Born: *************
Abode: 4, Lathom Grove
Occupation: Army
Baptised by: H. G. Dewey
Register: Baptisms 1916 - 1947, Page 160, Entry 1273
Source: Original Register

Plus a further possible male birth in 1947

:-) :-) :-)

I've deleted the 1964 marriage.

That 1964 marriage is the daughter - and she's on the current ER, so discretion is needed

Her mother's death

ROUND, LORNA DOREEN 1918
GRO Reference: DOR Q1/2011 in LEEDS (092-1K) Entry Number 504620961

This is the link Erika referred to:

www.gov.uk/guidance/request-records-of-deceased-service-personnel

Marriage: 31 Oct 1938 Holy Trinity, Poulton-le-Sands, Lancashire, England
James Smith - 22, Shop Assistant, Bachelor, 4, Lathom Grove, Morecambe
Lorna Doreen Ingham - 20, Shop Assistant, Spinster, 4, Lathom Grove, Morecambe
Groom's Father: John William Smith, Bus Conductor
Witness: John William Smith; Sarah Emily Ingham
Married by Banns by: A. E. Nock
Register: Marriages 1932 - 1941, Page 80, Entry 159
Source: Original Register

Note: No father named for the bride

Baptism: 13 Feb 1944 Holy Trinity, Poulton-le-Sands, Lancashire, England
Lorna Doreen Smith - [Child] of James Smith & Lorna Doreen
Born: ***********************
Abode: 4, Latham Grove
Occupation: H. M. Forces
Baptised by: W. E. Walsh
Register: Baptisms 1916 - 1947, Page 172, Entry 1372
Source: Original Register

He has been dead over 25 yrs so you will be able to get his records. Under 25 yrs it's next of kin or with the permission of next of kin :-)