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Have you taken note of all the info I posted?

Yes thank you, his year of birth seems wrong on the census though 1861 as i made it 1866 as he was 46 when he married but i know the other names he lived with.

Erika do you know why a record would be closed?

1939 records are closed because the person was born less than 100 years ago, and their death hasn't been picked up

Easy to find info if you google


The records of people who are younger than 100 and still alive, or who died after 1991, are officially closed, to protect the privacy of individuals and their families.28 Jul 2017

You stated that Joseph was born in Birmingham. What is the source of that info, please , as you didn't know when he was born?

Whats was his father's occupation? Or was he 'deceased' when Joseph married?

Who were the witnesses?

I know it was Warwickshire now know it may not have been Birmingham as received the wrong information. His father was deceased but it says he was a farm labourer. Witnesses were n stagg and Charles gerrygrove.

His birth year on 1939 Register (not a census) is probably accurate. It matches the death registration I gave you

He lied about his age when he married.

Still not sure why you say he was born in Warwickshire, as no records have yet been found which give birthplace info, and your original thoughts about his birth year were wildly inaccurate

'Deceased' fathers on marriage certs were sometimes fictitious

You need to see if you can find Joseph in any census prior to his marriage

Try looking for him yourself at:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/

What was his declared address on the marriage cert?

Thought you had to show identification when you got married. The register is wring on my nans year of birth it says 1918 but she was born 1916. The address on marriage certificate is 50 spon Street Coventry

This family were at 50 Spon Street in 1911.

Frank Williams
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Frank Williams
Age in 1911: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Coventry, Midland
Civil Parish: Coventry
Country: England
Street Address: 50 Spon St Coventry
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Fish Merchant
Registration District Number: 390
Sub-registration District: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 18524
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Williams 41
Mary Ann Williams 43
Francis Walter Williams 13
Louisa Mary Williams 10
Margaret Ellen Williams 8
Joseph Henry Williams

What did you go on to find out who lived at that address at that time just by entering the address?

That is an Ancestry transcription

Ok thank you Erika.