Military Chat

WRIGHT, JOHN ERNEST

Rank: Corporal
Service No: 1067908
Date of Death 29/12/1943
Age: 34
Regiment/Service Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Grave Reference: Mil. Sec. Grave 131.
Cemetery:JOHANNESBURG (WEST PARK) CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of John and Florence Wright; husband of Edna May Wright, of Timperley, Altrincham, Cheshire, England.

A tree on Ancestry has
Birth 1 MAR 1909 in Birkenhead, Cheshire
Death 29 DEC 1943 in Johannesburg

Marriage to Edna May Benn, Cockermouth
Birth 1 NOV 1905 in COCKERMOUTH Cumbria England
Death 11 APR 1994 in Altrincham, Cheshire, England

Parents
John Wright
Birth ABT 1888 in Barrow, Cheshire, England
Florence Leyland
Birth 1887 in Wigan, Lancs, England

No sources - not signed in for over a year, sub probably lapsed
..............
There are quite a few other possibilities, but with nothing in common.

Louise Ford (Member No. 181273)
Kevin Patten (Member No. 10009)
Not expecting them to be read, but we could be surprised!

W. Elves didn't makes sense as it was not in alphabetical order. It is W E Ives:

IVES, WALTER ERIC

Rank: Corporal
Service No: 6287436
Date of Death: 31/03/1944
Age: 19
Regiment/Service: Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regiment) 1st Bn.
Grave Reference: VIII. G. 2.
Cemetery: BEACH HEAD WAR CEMETERY, ANZIO
Additional Information: Son of Bert and Mabel Lily Ives, of Bapchild, Kent.

Parent's marriage:
name(s) BERTIE IVES
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1920
Spouse: MABEL L ARMOND
District MILTON
County Kent Country England
Volume 2A Page 1907

Walter's Mum, Mabel, was previously married:
name(s) MABEL L WILDASH
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1916
Spouse: CHARLES J ARMOND
District MILTON County Kent
Volume 2A Page 2127

Making this correct birth for Walter:
name(s) WALTER E IVES
Birth year 1923
Birth quarter 4
Mother's last name WILDASH
District MILTON County Kent
Volume 2A Page 1628

Not a strong match, but, just in case, pm sent to: Kathleen Smyth (Member No. 800703)

Gold Star to Gritty for working that one out.

Good job Gritty :-D

:-D

Det- you put W G IVES on the list- it's W E IVES

Has this already been done? Just going to check...- Glitterbaby found it earlier, before we realised about the Bowater's factory in Ellesmere Port.

PLEAVIN, GEORGE BENNETT
Rank: Lance Corporal
Service No: 13073987
Date of Death: 28/04/1945
Age: 28
Regiment/Service: Pioneer Corps 240 Coy.
Panel Reference: Panel 10.
Memorial: GROESBEEK MEMORIAL
Additional Information: Son of George and Mary Jane Pleavin; husband of Lilian May Pleavin, of Ellesmere Port, Cheshire.

Birth:
name(s) GEORGE B PLEAVIN
Birth year 1916
Birth quarter 2
Mother's last name SMITH
District WIRRAL County Cheshire
Volume 8A Page 716

Parent's marriage:
First name(s) GEORGE BENNETT
Last name PLEAVIN
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1906
Spouse: MARY JANE SMITH
District CHESTER County Cheshire
Volume 8A Page 521

pm sent to: mark pleavin (Member No. 13343938)

Sorry - now corrected to W E Ives.

No, i don't think we went back to G B Pleavin.

We're out today. If anyone wants to go through the thread and re-list unresolved names, please do :-D
The ones on the original with ?? needed to be looked at again.

Have a nice day- I'm also out, but may get time to look later

List of names that still need to be found:

B. L. Baker (please see original plaque- possible mistake?)
J. W. Benson (pm sent)
A. E. Budden
L. M. Clayton (possibly wrong age on CWGC. No matches)
R. A. Cole
H. Collins
J. Connor (no matches)
S. Davis
G. Dryden
J. W. Dykes (pm sent)
E. Foster
T. W. Godman (listed on CWGC as GODMON- pm sent)
J. C. Jarrett (pm sent)
C. Jones
T. Kelly
W. G Martin
W. Parker
J Poppleton
L. Sutton
C. Watson
G. W. Webzell (Completed on Page 2. but not marked off list- possible match pm sent)
A. Williams
D. Wilson

DRYDEN, GEORGE
Rank: Able Seaman
Service No: C/JX 314512
Date of Death: 08/03/1943
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy H.M.S. President III
Panel Reference: 68, 3.
Memorial: CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL

Same man listed as George G Dryden on Find a Grave:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=14370185&ref=acom

Same man FMP- but gives clue as to DOB:
Deaths at sea, 1781-1968 Transcription
name(s) George Dryden
Birth year 1912
Birth place British S Shields <<<<<<<<
Death year 1943
Death date 8 Mar 1943
Age 31
Vessel name Guido
County AT SEA
Series BT 334
Box 0102
Page 11

Same man- again
GRO MARINE DEATHS INDICES (1903 to 1965)
First name(s) GEORGE
Last name DRYDEN
Age 32
Birth year 1911
Death year 1943
Vessel H. M. S. PRESIDENT
Page 796A

Can't find connection on this one.

Not that it makes anything easier, but looking at the photo of the plaque- could it be C. Dryden? Could someone else take a look please :-)

DYKES, JAMES WALKER

Rank: Civilian
Date of Death: 20/09/1940
Age: 31
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: LAMBETH, METROPOLITAN BOROUGH
Additional Information: Son of James and Mary Dykes, of 24 Chichester Street, Chester; husband of Ethel E. Dykes, of 117 Feltham Hill Road, Ashford, Middlesex. Died at Bowater's Shelter, Upper Ground.

Birth:
name(s) JAMES WALKER DYKES
Birth year 1908
Birth quarter 4
District WOOLWICH County London
Volume 1D Page 1110

A tree on Ancestry has wife as Ethel Elizabeth Williams, but I can't see marriage.

One possible tree match- pm sent:
Julius Charrett-Dykes (Member No. 10123920)

T. W. GODMAN- listed on CWGC as GODMON

GODMON, THOMAS WILLIAM
Rank: Civilian
Date of Death: 04/10/1940
Age: 55
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: SWALE, RURAL DISTRICT
Additional Information: Home Guard. Husband of Ellen Eliza Godmon, of Neptune Terrace, Lower Halstow, Sittingbourne, at Codes Reach, Iwade.

Marriage:
name(s) THOMAS W GODMAN
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1913
Spouse: ELLEN E BUNTING
District MILTON
County Kent
Volume 2A Page 2157

Birth:
First name(s) THOMAS WILLIAM GODMON
Birth year 1885
Birth quarter 2
District MEDWAY County Kent
Volume 2A Page 562A

1891 he's listed as Godman
1901 listed as Godmon

No tree matches for Thomas Godmon
matches for Godman- pm sent to:
Sarah Clarkson (Member No. 3599465)
Gerald Hales (Member No. 7389555)
Maria Good (Member No. 4966691)

CLAYTON, LESLIE MALUM
Rank: Private
Service No: 6287875
Date of Death:16/11/1943
Age: 22
Regiment/Service: The Buffs (Royal East Kent Regiment) 4th Bn.
Panel Reference: Face 5.
Memorial: ATHENS MEMORIAL

I think there's a mistake on age on this- I believe it should be 32??
Birth:
Name: Leslie M Clayton
Mother's Maiden Name: Lamberton
Registration Year: 1911
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Milton Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a Page: 1803

Marriage:
Name: Leslie M Clayton
Spouse : Nora W Black
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1938
Registration district: Milton
Inferred County: Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 4237

Tree on Ancestry also has these details for Leslie Clayton that died 1943

No tree matches for 1911 birth

B. L. BAKER -
I'm pretty sure looking at the original plaque that the first initial isn't B. However, unsure of what it could be! Looks more like a symbol.

Don't think I can go any further with the other names on the list- just seem to be going round in circles, so I'll leave it now.

Picking up with J Connor – there is a 1941 ConnEr/Percival birth in 1941, W.Cheshire. That reg covers Ellesmere Port.

No matches for either J ConnOr or ConnEr, nor for their possible daughter.
...........
J C Jarrrett -there was a possible match. List updated.

GlitterBaby 15 Apr 2015 12:59
J W Benson
A couple of possibles on cwgc but one is Australian and the other shows as Ripon in Yorkshire
So that needs another look at.
..............
Unlikely but a possibility

BENSON, JAMES WALTER
Rank:Fireman and Trimmer
Date of Death:28/03/1941
Age:34
Regiment/ServiceMerchant Navy
S.S. Koranton (Newcastle-on-Tyne)
Panel Reference:Panel 62.
Memorial
TOWER HILL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Husband of Elizabeth Benson, of Birkenhead.

Name: James Walter Benson - Image says James WaltON Benson
Age in 1911: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Birkenhead
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: 65 Payson Street Birkenhead
Registration district: Birkenhead
Registration District Number: 452
Sub-registration district: Birkenhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Piece: 21981
Household Members:
Name Age
William Albert Benson 38
Martha Benson 43
Elsie Benson 14
Albert Benson 12
William Benson 8
Hannah Benson 6

Name: James W Benson
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1927
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume Number: 8a
Page Number: 1268
To Elizabeth Sutton

Name: James Walton Benson
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 464

No matches
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BENSON, JAMES WILLIAM

Rank: Corporal
Service No 5485758
Date of Death: 23/04/1941
Age: 41
Regiment/Service:Royal Engineers
1003 Docks Operating Coy.
Panel Reference: Face 4.
Memorial: ATHENS MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Husband of Anne M. Benson, of Wood Green, Middlesex.

Taking a punt on
Name: James Wm Benson
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Son (Child)
Gender: Male
Father: Charles Benson
Mother: Lydia Benson
Birth Place: Lambeth, London, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: London
Country: England

Ray Kingsland (Member No. 7898655)

Not seeing any obvious link with these, but posting in the hope that a relative may across the thread

WATSON, CYRIL
Rank:Corporal
Service No S/2148611
Date of Death:23/06/1943
Age: 33
Regiment/Service:Royal Army Service Corps
Grave Reference:L. 5.
Cemetery:ARCHANGEL ALLIED CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of James and Alice Watson, of Manchester.
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WATSON, Cyril
Rank:Lance Corporal
Service No: 6844758
Date of Death: 20/11/1941
Age: 29
Regiment/Service: King's Royal Rifle Corps1st Bn.
Grave Reference:10. E. 16.
Cemetery: KNIGHTSBRIDGE WAR CEMETERY, ACROMA
Additional Information:
Son of Thomas and Alice Watson j husband of Kitty Watson, of Branston, Staffordshire.
.............

WATSON, CYRIL

Rank:Lance Corporal
Service No: 2319022
Date of Death:30/05/1940
Regiment/Service: Royal Corps of Signals
Gave Reference: Row J. Grave 20.
Cemetery:
DOVER (ST. JAMES'S) CEMETERY
...............
Cyril Watson age 41 and also his son of the same name age 10. Both died at their home 56 Ward St, Lostock Hall, Lancs
................

WATSON, CHRISTOPHER
Rank:Sergeant
Trade:W.Op./Air Gnr.
Service No1112190
Date of Death: 23/11/1943
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve50 Sqdn.
Grave Reference:Coll. grave 1. C. 10-15.
Cemetery:BERLIN 1939-1945 WAR CEMETERY
..............
WATSON, CHRISTOPHER

Rank:Civilian
Date of Death:02/10/1941
Age: 58
Regiment/Service:Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority SOUTH SHIELDS, COUNTY BOROUGH
Additional Information:
Special Constable; S.J.A.B.; of 29 Albany Street. Son of Mary Ann Watson, of Winnipeg, Canada, and of the late John Watson; husband of Elizabeth Watson. Died at Oxford Street.
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C Watson, continued

WATSON, CECIL
Rank:Warrant Officer Class II
Trade: S.S.M.
Service No: 7904096
Date of Death: 08/03/1945
Age: 49
Regiment/Service: Royal Tank Regiment, R.A.C.
51st (The Leeds Rifles)
Grave Reference: VI, D, 17.
Cemetery: CASERTA WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of George Loudon Watson and Cecilia Mackenzie Watson; husband of Edith M. Watson.
[Given his rank & age, I would think he was probably a career soldier]
............
WATSON, CHARLES

Rank: Aircraftman 1st Class
Service No: 567346
Date of Death:14/12/1939
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force99 Sqdn.
Panel Reference:Panel 3.
Memorial:RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL
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WATSON, CHARLES
Rank:Private
Service No: 991486
Date of Death:29/06/1944
Age:29
Regiment/Service:Royal Scots 8th Bn.
Grave Reference II. B. 7.
Cemetery:ST. MANVIEU WAR CEMETERY, CHEUX
Additional Information:
Son of Thomas and Helen Watson; grandson of Mr. and Mrs. Boyd Gordon; husband of Christina Watson, of Musselburgh, Midlothian
..........

WATSON, CHARLES

Rank Petty Officer Stoker
Service No P/KX 79641
Date of Death:31/01/1942
Age:37
Regiment/Service: Royal Navy H.M.S. Belmont
Panel Reference:Panel 67, Column 3.
Memorial:
PORTSMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of John William and Margaret Ann Watson, of Gilberdyke, Yorkshire.
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WATSON, CHARLES
Rank:Serjeant
Service No:4438568
Date of Death:31/05/1940
Age: 45
Regiment/Service:Durham Light Infantry 8th Bn.
Grave Reference:FF. 9.
Cemetery:ADINKERKE MILITARY CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of James and Margaret Watson, of Durham; husband of Alice Watson, of Jilesgate Moor, Durham
..............

C WATSON cont
WATSON, CHARLES

Rank:First Radio Officer
Date of Death:19/02/1942
Age:28
Regiment/Service Merchant Navy
M.V. Empire Comet (Greenock)
Panel Reference:Panel 39.
Memorial:TOWER HILL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Charles and Catherine Watson; husband of Janet Watson, of Greenock, Renfrewshire.
...............
WATSON, CHARLES

Rank: Fireman and Trimmer
Date of Death 25/08/1940
Age:39
Regiment/Service:Merchant Navy
S.S. Harpalyce (London)
Panel Reference: Panel 55.
Memorial: TOWER HILL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Charles and Gracie Watson; husband of C. Watson, of Sunderland, Co. Durham.
*************
WATSON, CHARLES

Rank:Private
Service No:901834
Date of Death:21/03/1946
Age:26
Regiment/Service:Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders 2nd Bn.
Grave Reference:III. A. 1.
Cemetery:MILAN WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of John Henry and Mary Ann Watson, of Bexleyheath Kent.

***************

Catherine Watson age 52
Catherine Watson age 12
Mother and daughter died 14/03/1941 in Glasgow.

Of those posted, the most likely, in my opinion, would be

WATSON, CHARLES

Rank:Private
Service No:901834
Date of Death:21/03/1946
Age:26
Regiment/Service:Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders 2nd Bn.
Grave Reference:III. A. 1.
Cemetery:MILAN WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of John Henry and Mary Ann Watson, of Bexleyheath Kent.

With no birth/mmn, this one seems a dead end