Military Chat

Thank you Potty, I think that might be Thomas's death,

Thanks again Kucinta for looking for James, however, he could of been listed as John.

The older brother to these Pigotts was Patrick. any record for him in the military please?

Not finding anything for James either.

Can't find anything for James, but could this be Thomas's death?

First name(s)Thomas
Last name Piggott
Birth year 1879
Age at death 34
Registered year 1913
Registered quarter/year Jul - Sep 1913
Registration district Waterford

Hi Kucinta (or anyone with access to records) can you please look up a James Pigott, born approx 1880 Ballybricken Waterford to see if he also joined the military please.

Have compared both records I posted above quickly as I want to go to bed....

I think despite discrepancy in birthplace and age, they are the same man.

EDIT: I thought Ballybricken and Holy Trinity Without were different locations, but there is a Catholic Church of The Holy Trinity Without, in Ballybricken.

First chap (1878 Ballybricken) was in 4th Battalion, transferred to Regular army 13th Dec 1899.

Second chap (1880 Trinity without) was in 4th Batalion prior to enlisting in the 18th Regt Royal Irish, on same date of 13th Dec 1899.

Both men were described as about 5 ft 3 1/2 in tall with fresh complexion, grey eyes and brown or light brown hair.

I'll try sending the images by pm.

I appreciate this isn't what you wanted, ie WWI records, but have posted/sent in case you thought them relevant.

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First name(s) THOMAS
Last name PIGOTT
Birth year 1878<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Birth parish BALLYBRICKEN<<<<<<<<<<<<
Birth town WATERFORD
Birth county WATERFORD
Birth country IRELAND
Service number 2994
Rank -
Regiment -
Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1896
Attestation Day 19
Attestation Month 5
Attestation age years 18
Attestation age months -
Attestation Corps 4TH BATTALION THE ROYAL IRISH REGIMENT
Attestation service number 2994
Series militia service records 1806-1915
Box 375
Box Record Number 415
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain

Doesn't seem to cover WWI on the service record though.

ALSO:

First name(s) THOMAS
Last name PIGOTT
Birth year 1880
Birth parish TRINITY WITHOUT
Birth town WATERFORD
Birth county WATERFORD
Birth country IRELAND
Service number 6774
Rank -
Regiment Royal Irish Regiment - 18th Foot
Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1899
Attestation Day 13
Attestation Month 12
Attestation age years 19
Attestation age months 6
Attestation Corps Royal Irish Regiment
Attestation service number 6774
Discharge Corps Royal Irish Regiment
Series chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913
Box 5692
Box Record Number 25
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain

This chap had served in the 4th Battlion The Royal Irish Regt which he describes as the Militia when he enlists, I found myself wondering if he is the same as the chap supposedly born 1878 above.

This 'second' man had older brothers Patrick and another older brother Martin(martin was serving with the Royal Irish) plus a younger brother MAURICE and sister Catherine, Roanmore Waterford. Thomas was discharged in 1906 as medically unfirt (insane). he had served in the SA campaign (Boer War?) and was entitled to the Queens S A Medal with clasps for Transvaaal, S A 1901 and S A 1902.

thanks for your help +++Det, hopefully someone will be able to check FMP for me.

No idea if this has anything to do with him (found on the UK national archive site)

Reference: AIR 79/505/55467
Description:

Thomas Piggott.
Date: [1918-1928]
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Legal status: Public Record
Language: English
Access conditions: Open Immediately
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Reference: AIR 79/1549/171273
Description:

Name: Thomas William Piggott.
Date: [1918-1928]
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Legal status: Public Record
Language: English

" this record can be found at Findmypast"

If you don't have a sub, hopefully someone who does can have a look
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There are various Medal Cards for Thomas or T Piggott, but without corresponding service or pension records, its impossible to say if they are 'yours'.

As you are probably aware, over 60% of the service records were destroyed during WW2 bombing

Yes, he was born in Waterford, Ireland in the parish of Ballybricken as was his brother Maurice who was also a ww1 surviving soldier.

Not seeing anything relevant - would he have been living in Ireland when he enlisted?
(Eire didn't come into being until after partition)

Can anyone please see if there are is an army record for a Thomas Pigott/Piggott born approx 1880 in Waterford Eire. Many Thanks.