Military Chat

a body found recently found in a garden
M.O.D are looking for the relatives of the following 4 soldiers all are commemorated on the Arras memorial and all K.I.A. on the 3/5/1917-all are from the Oxford and Buckinghamshire light infantry
so can OUR members find the relatives of
1/WILLIAM CHARLES HAYNES born Aylesbury ,Buckinghamshire
2/CHARLES CROKE HARPER,2nd Lt of the 3rd Battalion attached to the 5th,born Buckinghamshire
3/STANLEY ASHMAN born Weston Super Mare ,son of Alf and Annie Ashman of Radstock
4/JOHN LEGGE BULMER, 2nd Lt,born Filey =Yorkshire,of the 4th Battalion attached to the 5th
=====FOR FURTHER INFORMATION FOLLOW THE LINK===
http:/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-25779830

1901 England Census
about Stanley Ashman Name: Stanley Ashman
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Alfred Ashman
Mother: Annie Ashman
Birth Place: Twerton, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Radstock
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Ashman 41
Annie Ashman 41
Alfred Ashman 19
Ernest Ashman 16
Stanley Ashman 13 (Coal Miner/Hewer)
Frank Ashman 10
George Ashman 8
Bert Ashman 3
Wilfrid Ashman 1


..UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about Stanley Ashman Name: Stanley Ashman
Death Date: 3 May 1917
Rank: Lieutenant (T)
Regiment: Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry
Battalion: 5th Battalion
Type of Casualty: Killed in action


Household transcription
1911 census

Person: ASHMAN, Stanley
Address: 13 Steam Mills Midsomer Norton

ASHMAN, Stanley Head Married M 23 1888 Coal Miner Hewer Twerton Bath Somt VIEW
ASHMAN, Minne Wife Married F 27 1884 Midsomer Norton Somt VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 14651
Reference: RG14PN14651 RG78PN889 RD315 SD4 ED1 SN190
Registration District: Clutton
Sub District: Midsomer Norton
Enumeration District: 1
Parish: Midsomer Norton
Address: 13 Steam Mills Midsomer Norton
County: Somersetshire

Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%)
Ashman Stanley Bath 5c 1263
Lamb Minna Bath 5c 1263

2 children born to the marriage...

Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
Ashman Eileen C M Lamb Clutton 5c 812

Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
ASHMAN Douglas S Lamb Clutton 5c 806

There are at least 6 trees on Ancestry that have Eileen Catherine Minna Ashman and Douglas Stanley Ashman in their tree's.

A GR member also has Eileen and Douglas in their tree.

I have sent the link to the tree owner.

Link also sent to the tree owners on Ancestry.

Several GR members have Stanley in their tree.......Link sent to those members.

1901 England Census
about John Lezze Bulmer Name: John Lezze Bulmer
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: Edward Bulmer
Mother: Elizabeth Bulmer
Birth Place: Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: York
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Bulmer 56
Elizabeth Bulmer 42
Edward S N Bulmer 14
Francis E Bulmer 13
Philip Henry Bulmer 12
John Lezze Bulmer 6
Charles Regis Bulmer 1
Polly Backhouse 19
Edith Goodan 17


Household transcription
1911 census
Person: BULMER, John
Institution: The College, THE COLLEGE

BULMER, John Pupil Single M 16 1895 Student Yorks York VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 11916
Reference: RG14PN11916 RD245 SD1 ED15 SN1
Registration District: Marlborough
Sub District: Marlborough
Enumeration District: 15
Parish: Preshute Within St Peter and St Paul
Address: Marlborough
County: Wiltshire


Household transcription
1911 census

Person: BULMER, Edward
Address: 6 Park St the Mount York

BULMER, Edward Head Married M 66 1845 Clergyman Established Church Sunderland Durham VIEW
BULMER, Elizabeth Wife Married25 years F 52 1859 York Yorkshire VIEW
BULMER, Frances Elizabeth Daughter Single F 23 1888 Secretary York Yorkshire VIEW
BULMER, Philip Henry Son Single M 22 1889 Student For Established York Yorkshire VIEW
BULMER, Charles Regie Son M 11 1900 School York VIEW
BULMER, Reginald Potter Son M 9 1902 School York VIEW
TAYLOR, Sarah Servant Single F 20 1891 Cook Ballinderry Antrim VIEW
TAYLOR, Margaret Servant Single F 19 1892 Housemaid Ballinderry Antrim VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 28435
Reference: RG14PN28435 RG78PN1627 RD517 SD3 ED11 SN349
Registration District: York
Sub District: York West
Enumeration District: 11
Parish: York
Address: 6 Park St the Mount York
County: Yorkshire (East riding)



..UK, Commonwealth War Graves, 1914-1921 and 1939-1947
about John Legge Bulmer Name: John Legge Bulmer
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1895
Death Date: 3 May 1917
Cemetery: The Arras Memorial at Faubourg-D´Amiens Cemetery, Arras
Burial Country: France
Father: Reverend Edward Bulmer
Mother: Elizabeth Bulmer
Region or Memorial: France

..UK, Commonwealth War Graves, 1914-1921 and 1939-1947
about Charles Croke Harper Name: Charles Croke Harper
Age: 36
Birth Date: abt 1881
Death Date: 3 May 1917
Cemetery: The Arras Memorial at Faubourg-D´Amiens Cemetery, Arras
Burial Country: France
Father: Reverend E J Harper
Mother: Frances Wetherell Harper
Region or Memorial: France


..1881 England Census
about Charles Croke Harper Name: Charles Croke Harper
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Edward James Harper
Mother: Frances Wetherel Harper
Gender: Male
Where born: Barningham Winter, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Barningham Winter
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street Address: Rector
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Erpingham
Sub-registration District: Cromer
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1924
Folio: 38
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Edward James Harper 36
Frances Wetherel Harper 31
Francis Strachey Harper 8
Grace Wetherell Harper 6
Margrate Harper 5
Mabel Sophia Harper 4
Lionel Edward Harper 3
Charles Croke Harper 1


Household transcription
1911 census

Person: HARPER, Edward James
Address: Broughton Rectory Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire

HARPER, Edward James Head Married M 66 1845 Clerk In Holy Orders Priest Clergyman Ch Of England Surrey Norwood VIEW
HARPER, Frances Wetherell Wife Married39 years F 61 1850 Berkshire Chieveley VIEW
HARPER, Constance Miriam Daughter Single F 17 1894 Norfolk Stoke Cross VIEW
GEARY, Grace Wetherell Daughter Married F 36 1875 Kent Hawkhurst VIEW
GEARY, Joan Phyllis Wetherell Granddaughter Single F 7 1904 S Africa Durban VIEW
GEARY, Bridget Winnifred Granddaughter Single F 4 1907 Surrey Weybridge VIEW
GEARY, Dennis Hugh Philip Grandson M 3 1908 S Africa Durban VIEW
GOOBY, Elizabeth Servant Single F 21 1890 General Servant Domestic Bucks Broughton VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 7976
Reference: RG14PN7976 RG78PN401 RD148 SD1 ED8 SN59
Registration District: Newport Pagnell
Sub District: Fenny Stratford
Enumeration District: 8
Parish: Broughton
Address: Broughton Rectory Newport Pagnell Buckinghamshire
County: Buckinghamshire

HAYNES, William Charles

Registration district: [?] Aylesbury

County: Buckinghamshire

Year of registration: 1888

Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3

Volume no:[?]3A

Page no:[?]686

1911
HAYNES, William Head Single M 22 1889 Colt Breaker Aylesbury Bucks VIEW

RG number: RG14

Piece: 7930

Reference: RG14PN7930 RG78PN398 RD146 SD2 ED3 SN9

Registration District: Aylesbury

Sub District: Aylesbury

Enumeration District: 3

Parish: Aylesbury

Address: 36 Walton Street Walton Aylesbury

County: Buckinghamshire


1901
HAYNES, Henry Head Married M 43 1858 Horse Trainer Licensed Victualler
Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire VIEW
HAYNES, Elizabeth Wife Married F 43 1858 Pub
Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire VIEW
HAYNES, James Son Single M 18 1883 Horse Trainer
Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire VIEW
HAYNES, Agnes Sarah Daughter Single F 15 1886 Dressmaker
Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire VIEW
HAYNES, William Chas Son Single M 12 1889 Scholar
Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire VIEW
HAYNES, Florence Sussanah Daughter Single F 8 1893 Scholar
Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire VIEW
HAYNES, Horace Son Single M 6 1895 Scholar
Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire VIEW
HAYNES, Connie Evelyn Daughter Single F 5 1896 Scholar
Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire VIEW
MILLER, James Father-In-Law Widower M 69 1832
Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire VIEW
WELCH, Violet Mabel Niece Single F 17 1884 Mothers Help
Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire VIEW

Piece: 1355

Folio: 145

Page: 2

Registration District: Aylesbury

Civil Parish: Aylesbury

Municipal Borough:

Address: The Anchor, Walton Street, Aylesbury, Walton Aylesbury


Memorial Scroll [?]

Purchase scroll

Name: William Charles HAYNES

Rank: 2/LT

Initials: W C

Regiment, Corps etc.: Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire Light Infantry

Battalion etc.: 3rd Battalion

Decoration:

Date died: 3 May 1917

How died: Killed in action

Supplementary Notes: (ATT 5TH BN)

brother James 1911
PACKMAN, James William Head Married M 61 1850 Painter Compositor Herts Stevenage VIEW
PACKMAN, Sarah Emma Wife Married29 years F 59 1852 Hert Watford VIEW
PACKMAN, Maud Kathleen May Daughter F 14 1897 Printer's Reading Girl Bucks Aylesbury VIEW
PACKMAN, May Granddaughter F 13 1898 At School Bucks Aylesbury VIEW
HAYNES, James Son In Law Married M 28 1883 Horse Dealer's Groom Bucks Aylesbury VIEW
HAYNES, Elsie Agnes Daughter Married3 years F 23 1888 Dressmaker Bucks Aylesbury VIEW
HAYNES, Alfred James Son Of Above M 2 1909 Bucks Aylesbury VIEW
HAYNES, Besse Agnes Emma Daughter Of Above F 1 1910 Bucks Aylesbury VIEW

RG number: RG14

Piece: 7933

Reference: RG14PN7933 RG78PN398 RD146 SD2 ED6 SN120

Registration District: Aylesbury

Sub District: Aylesbury

Enumeration District: 6

Parish: Aylesbury

Address: 105 New Street Aylesbury

County: Buckinghamshire

James's son
ame: HAYNES, Alfred James

Registration district: [?] Aylesbury

County: Buckinghamshire

Year of registration: 1908

Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun

Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3

Volume no:[?]3A

Page no:[?]1049

ame: HAYNES, Alfred James

Registration district: [?] South East Hampshire

County: Hampshire

Year of registration: 1976

Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun

Date of Birth:11 April 1908

Volume no: 20

Page no: 1511

daughter Besse

MarriageFinder™: Bessie A E Haynes married George A Pearce [?]

Name: HAYNES, Bessie A E

Registration district: [?] Aylesbury

County: Buckinghamshire

Year of registration:

Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Spouse's last name Pearce

Volume no: [?] 3A

Page no: [?] 2392
View the original image

Name: PEARCE, George A

Registration district: Aylesbury

County: Buckinghamshire

Year of registration: 1928

Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec

Spouse's last name: Haynes

Volume no: 3A

Page no: 2392

Death record transcript

Name: PEARCE, Bessie Agnes E

Registration district: [?] Aylesbury Vale

County: Buckinghamshire

Year of registration: 1996

Month of registration: April

Date of Birth:21 May 1909

District no: 3241B

Reg no: B19C

Ent no: 266

DOR: 496

appears to be 3 children born 1929,1931 and 1932 in Aylesbury, all went on to marry

Link sent to members connected to William Charles Haynes on Ancestry.

Thanks for this help every one
I have 3 brothers =my Uncles all fell somewhere =no graves
So imagine what the eventual found family thoughts will be
:-)

I imagined how i would feel if one of those soldiers was my long lost Grandfather.

I would be beside myself with happiness and joy.

<3

URGENT UPDATE

Hello everyone
Just wanted to keep you updated
Dan Ashman,a direct relative of Stanley Ashman ,has been in touch with me,through Ancestry,in turn I have given him the details and he will be contacting both the journalist and the MOD directly and has promised to keep me updatedwhich of course I will then update our members here on Genes
===========So=======thats 1 family sorted 3 more to go
Keep up the good work everyone,I know that we can do it for the soldier who gave his all for us

Dan is going to ask his Grandmother if she will offer some DNA for her great Uncle...Stanley Ashman.

UPDATE
I have now e-mailed the MOD
with all details
am just hoping that Dan Ashman gets back to me

==========LATEST NEWS UPDATE=====
The lady from the MOD has been in touch ,and at this very moment in time they are contacting relatives of the WW1 soldiers,she will keep us updated
and I will in turn update our Genes community
I cannot thank you enough
WELL DONE
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Bulmer family

Marriage record transcript
MarriageFinder™: Reginald P Bulmer married Edna M Coupland [?]
Name: BULMER, Reginald P
Registration district: [?] Darlington
County: Durham
Year of registration: 1945
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep

Spouse's last name Coupland
Volume no: [?] 10A
Page no: [?] 59
View the original imageName: COUPLAND, Edna M
Registration district: Darlingto County: Durham
Year of registration: 1945
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Bulmer
Volume no: 10A
Page no: 59

Name: BULMER, Reginald Potter

Registration district: [?] Darlington
County: Durham
Year of registration: 1983
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Date of Birth:5 May 1902
Volume no: 1
Page no: 0851


Name: BULMER, Edna Mary

Registration district: [?] Darlington
County: Durham
Year of registration: 1981
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Date of Birth:1 May 1902
Volume no: 1
Page no: 0900

haven't found any children as yet

will send you a pm regarding Phillip Henry Bulmer, don't want to post it here

Maddie

Frances Elizabeth Bulmer

?
me: BULMER, Frances E

Frances E Bulmer married Walter R Lyth ??????????????

Name: BULMER, Frances E
Registration district: [?] York
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1913
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name Lyth
Volume no: [?] 9D
Page no: [?] 47


Name: LYTH, Walter R
Registration district: York
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1913
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Bulmer
no: 9D
Page no: 47

4 possible children if that is the correct marriage

LYTH K E England Yorkshire, York 1914 - ???????????
LYTH R E England Yorkshire, York 1916 - married 1944
LYTH C I England Yorkshire, York 1920 - married 1949
LYTH H R England Yorkshire, York 1923 - married 1945


Name: LYTH, Frances Elizabeth
Registration district: [?] Carlisle
County: Cumberland
Year of registration: 1981
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Date of Birth:16 December 1887
Volume no: 1
Page no: 0316

????????????
Name: LYTH, Walter R

Registration district: [?] Bromley
County: Kent
Year of registration: 1963
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death:79
Volume no: 5B
Page no: 247

Name: LYTH, Walter Rose ?????????????

Registration district: [?] Goole
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1883
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no:[?]9C
Page no:[?]718

I sent 2 messages earlier this morning to 2 members on Ancestry who have Richard Edward Lyth...born 1916 in their trees.

hope they get in contact
Maddie :-)

Elizabeth,,

Where did you send your email to the MOD please as I have information on one of the brother's and he has living rellies ands I certainly aren't going to put any names on any site.
So if you let me know the email address for the MOD I can email her myself.

Sue