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Unknown

Unknown Report 9 Nov 2023 00:50

Hi, I am wondering if a relative or children of his are on here. His name was Alan Francis Pratt, born 1940, last known address in Chippenham, Wiltshire. His father was Leslie John and his mother was a Brazilian called Ismenia

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 9 Nov 2023 07:40

Welcome to Genes and the boards.

It is.very unlikely that anyone connected to the family will spot your post. Check out other members trees by going to Search/ search allnembers trees. If you find family members you can send a pm by clicking on the members name. Genes will notify them if they have kept their email address up to date.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Nov 2023 09:35

Not born in England/Wales under that name

No recorded marriage for the parents on freebmd

The mother died in 1996

The parents and a male child aged 9 months travelled to Brazil in March 1939 - presumably Alan was born out there

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Nov 2023 09:42

Do some research….look for a marriage, and then for possible children.

Check whether the last address you have for him has been sold since you last had contact………

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Nov 2023 09:44

Name Leslie J Pratt
Death Age 60
Birth Date abt 1901
Registration Date Jul 1961
[Aug 1961]
[Sep 1961]
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district Newton Abbot
Inferred County Devon
Volume 7a
Page 428

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Nov 2023 09:50

Went out with Ismenia Elvira aged 34 and Leslie Vernon aged 9 months

Name Leslie John Pratt
Gender Male
Departure Age 39
Birth Date abt 1900
Departure Date 16 Mar 1939
Departure Port England
Ship Name Bronte
Shipping Line Lamport and Holt Line Limited
Search Ship Database
Search for the Bronte in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Destination Port Rio De Janeiro, Brazil
Master J S Carapper


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Nov 2023 09:54

Name Leslie Vernon Pratt
Death Age 33
Birth Date 14 May 1937
Registration Date Oct 1970
[Nov 1970]
[Dec 1970]
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district Leicestershire Central
Inferred County Leicestershire
Volume 3a
Page 1285

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Nov 2023 09:57

Arrival
Name Mr Leslie Vernon Pratt
Arrival Age 12
Birth Date abt 1937
Port of Departure Santos, Brazil
Arrival Date 21 Nov 1949
Port of Arrival Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage Santos
Ship Name Balfe
Shipping Line Lamport and Holt
Official Number 143604
Search Ship Database
Search for the Balfe in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

With Ismenia aged 42
Leslie Vernon aged 12
Alan Francis aged 9

All previously lived in Brazil

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Nov 2023 10:00

Looks like he may have married in 1963
Leicestershire

Details on freebmd

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Nov 2023 10:05



Alan and his wife were on the ER for Chippenham in 2004.

Their house was sold in 2004, and it doesn't appear to have been sold again since then.

It would be a very long shot, but perhaps you could try writing to the present owners, just in case they know where Alan moved to - or could forward your letter to the estate agents through whom they bought the house in 2004, who might know.

Looking at ER, James D Hill and his wife are listed at that address from 2005 ,until at least 2018, when they may have opted out of the public ER.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Nov 2023 10:05

He was still in Chippenham in 2004 with wife Anne

Maybe opted out of public electoral rolls after then

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Nov 2023 10:36

We have to be careful, Marie, as we don’t know why you are asking about this man

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Nov 2023 13:26

Goodness the man would be in his 80,s now if still alive so why the problem ?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Nov 2023 13:42

Just being sensible..............I KNOW how old he would be :-S :-S

Age makes no difference with regard to privacy considerations

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Nov 2023 14:11

So on that basis no one can look for relatives born in the 1930, s 1940,s ??

Seems a bit pedantic


:-(

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 9 Nov 2023 14:37

Sorry Shirley, but I agree with Erika that we should be careful in identifying elderly people. Some of these people are vulnerable and as we don’t know which of them are we must surely take some care.

Much better to track them and then find the next generation and pass on that information. It can be very unnerving to get a communication from someone claiming to be family and even worse to have someone knock on the door. I had a friend who had that happen, two men who were relatives of her ex husband.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Nov 2023 14:55

Sorry, but you are missing the point, Shirley

We do not know whether Marie is related.............and/or if she is, HOW.

Rambling

Rambling Report 9 Nov 2023 16:59

Marie, Google gives his previous role on https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/pOknoeShgKarghFNglh2ipBTMUA/appointments

The firm appears to still be in operation as accounts to last year , last statement September 2023 ( wife's family possibly) send them a letter.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Nov 2023 17:15

A daughter was born in 1967, and probably married in 1990, both events in Chippenham.
However, I don't see her or her husband on any recent ER.

Unknown

Unknown Report 9 Nov 2023 22:47

Thank you Shirley and everyone who has been helpful. Just to state to anyone having a panic, I AM related, and I am doing a family history piece for the local museum on his aunt (very close with her sister, Alans mum) who was the girls schools head mistress. I know he'd be in his 80's, and I'm not likely to rock up to his door, being that I'm in Devon, not Chippenham!