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8 Apr 2022 19:24 |
Looking for relatives of my dad, Norman C Kemp and grandfather, Henry C Kemp. Henry was born in Gorleston, 1891, and emigrated to Haifa. Grandmother was Julia(?) Allured. Dad was born in 1925, moved to Cyprus, married, and moved to Canada, and finally the US. Dad had a younger sister, Gladys. I know of one great-aunt, Molly.
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8 Apr 2022 20:05 |
Look in ‘search all member trees’ If anyone has the names in a GR tree, send a contact message and hope for a response
Have you tried researching?
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ErikaH
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8 Apr 2022 20:09 |
Looks like Henry married in Israel……to Julia Rashid
Henry’s MOTHER was Allured (Martha). Married in 1878
Henry had 3 siblings listed on 1901 census, Edith, Arthur and Annie
The family had moved to Essex by 1911
EDITED 9/4 Census records added below
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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8 Apr 2022 20:34 |
Norman Charles Kemp in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 Name: Norman Charles Kemp [Norman C Kemp] Gender: Male Race: White Birth Date: 25 Mar 1925 Birth Place: Jerusalem, Israel Death Date: 29 Nov 1992 Father: Henry C Kemp Mother: Julia Rashed SSN: 565666628 Notes: Oct 1962: Name listed as NORMAN CHARLES KEMP; 04 Dec 1992: Name listed as NORMAN C KEMP
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Norman Charles Kemp in the UK, Foreign and Overseas Registers of British Subjects, 1628-1969 Name: Norman Charles Kemp Gender: Male Birth Date: 25 Mar 1925 Birth Place: Jerusalem, Palestine Event Type: Birth Father: Henry Charles Kemp occ merchant British by birth Mother: Julia Kemp Rashid Piece Description: RG 33: Foreign Registers and Returns, 1627-1960 Reg by father 28 the Oct 1925 Home address PO Box 46 Jerusalem
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8 Apr 2022 21:19 |
Annie married James T Horsman
Births of children can be found on freebmd
1939 Register 52 Whitehall Lane, Grays, Thurrock U.D., Essex, England
James T Horsman 14 Oct 1894 Male Warehouse Foreman Docks Married 235 1 Annie A Horsman 16 Nov 1896 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 235 2 The record for this person is officially closed. The record for this person is officially closed. Victor James Horsman 19 Aug 1931 Male - - 235 5 The record for this person is officially closed.
Name: Annie Allured Horsman Death Age: 85 Birth Date: abt 1897 Death Date: Abt 1982 Death Place: Lara, Victoria Registration Date: 1982 Registration Place: Australia Father: Walter Kemp Mother: Ann Martha
Name: Annie Allured Horsman Death Date: 20 Jul 1982 Cemetery: Altona Memorial Park Burial or Cremation Place: Altona, Hobsons Bay City, Victoria, Australia
Name: James Thomas Horsman Death Age: 67 Birth Date: abt 1895 Death Date: Abt 1962 Death Place: Yarra, Victoria Registration Date: 1962 Registration Place: Australia Father: Thomas James Mother: Elizabeth Underwood Registration Number: 1281
Emigrated 1953
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8 Apr 2022 21:48 |
Welcome to the boards, Diana -
You say you're "looking for" relatives, and have posted on the "Find Living Relatives" board. Are you hoping to make contact with living relatives?
(Sounds like a silly question, I know, but sometimes people post here when they really mean they want to know about ancestors.)
It's almost certain that none of your relatives will see your query here. You'll need to be proactive. As ErikaH says, search for names you know in "Search all member trees" - under "Search" at top right of this page - and contact the tree owner if you find any known relatives on anyone's tree.
Do you know if Gladys married? (Though I can't see any record of her apart from her birth.)
Her birth for our reference:
Gladys Mayr Kemp in the UK, Foreign and Overseas Registers of British Subjects, 1628-1969 Name: Gladys Mayr Kemp Gender: Female Birth Date: 4 Nov 1926 Birth Place: Jerusalem, Palestine Event Type: Birth Father: Henry Charles Kemp Mother: Juliua Kemp Rashed Piece Description: RG 33: Foreign Registers and Returns, 1627-1960
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ErikaH
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9 Apr 2022 11:20 |
Name: David Sidney Horsman Birth Date: 24 May 1934 Death Date: 25 Dec 2008 Cemetery: Flinders Memorial Park Burial or Cremation Place: Lara, Greater Geelong City, Victoria, Australia
Brother of Eileen and Barbara
Name: Eileen Joan Horsman Gender: Female Electoral Date: 1980 Electoral Place: Sutherland, Corio, Victoria, Australia
Can't see anything for Barbara other than her birth
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9 Apr 2022 11:24 |
HORSMAN, VICTOR JAMES 1931 GRO Reference: DOR Q3/2008 in BRENTWOOD (4661B) Reg 1B004 Entry Number 501106248
Marriages Sep 1953 (>99%) Horsman Victor J Leyland Thurrock 4a 2018 LEYLAND Louvaine M M A HORSMAN Thurrock 4a 2018
One son - find birth on freebmd A musician, there is info about him in the London Gazette in 2018 He married in 2003
HORSMAN, LOUVAINE MARY MARGARET 1932 GRO Reference: DOR Q2/2006 in BRENTWOOD (4661B) Reg B71B Entry Number 268
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ErikaH
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9 Apr 2022 11:36 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Bells Marsh Road, Gorleston, Mutford, Suffolk & Norfolk, England Walter Kemp Head Married Male 24 1857 Sailmaker Barking, Essex, England Martha A Kemp Wife Married Female 24 1857 - Harleston, Norfolk, England Emma E Kemp Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Gorleston, Suffolk, England Ethel S Kemp Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Gorleston, Suffolk, England
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Blackwall Reach, Gorleston, Mutford, Suffolk & Norfolk, England Walter Kemp Head Married Male 33 1858 Tail maker Barking, Essex, England Aartha A Kemp Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Harleston, Norfolk, England Ellen R Kemp Daughter Single Female 8 1883 Scholar Suffolk, England Edith M Kemp Daughter Single Female 5 1886 Scholar Suffolk, England Walter R Kemp Son Single Male 3 1888 Scholar Suffolk, England Nellie M Kemp Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Suffolk, England
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 112, Trafalgar Road West, Great Yarmouth, Yarmouth, Norfolk, England Martha A Kemp Wife Married Female 43 1858 - Harleston, Norfolk, England Edith M Kemp Daughter Single Female 15 1886 Nurse maid domestic Suffolk, England Henry C Kemp Son - Male 9 1892 - Suffolk, England Arthur R Kemp Son - Male 7 1894 - Suffolk, England Annie A Kemp Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Suffolk, England
1911 Census For England & Wales 6 Richmond Road Grays Thurrock, Grays Thurrock, Essex, England Walter Kemp Head Married Male 54 1857 Sailmaker Barking Essex Martha A Kemp Wife Married Female 54 1857 - Harlestop Norfolk Edith May Kemp Daughter Single Female 25 1886 - Gorleston Suffolk Henry Charles Kemp Son Single Male 19 1892 Grocers assisant Gorleston Suffolk Arthur Robert Kemp Son Single Male 17 1894 Boot repairer Gorleston Suffolk Annie Allured Kemp Daughter Single Female 14 1897 School Gorleston Suffolk
NINE children - Four have died
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ArgyllGran
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9 Apr 2022 11:37 |
Henry and siblings in 1911, for our reference:
Edith May Kemp in the 1911 England Census Name: Edith May Kemp Age in 1911: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Gorleston, Suffolk Civil Parish: Grays Thurrock Country: England Street Address: 6 Richmond Road, Grays, Thurrock, Essex Marital status: Single Occupation: Assistant Grocer Registration District Number: 192 Sub-registration District: Grays ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 9967 Household Members: Name Age Walter Kemp 54 Martha A Kemp 54 Edith May Kemp 25 Henry Charles Kemp 19 Arthur Robert Kemp 17 Annie Alland Kemp 14
Edith's marriage:
Edith M Kemp in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Edith M Kemp Registration Date: Jan 1923[Feb 1923] [Mar 1923] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District: Orsett Inferred County: Essex Spouse: Walter L Dickson Volume Number: 4a Page Number: 772
Edith May Kemp in the Essex, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1937 Name: Edith May Kemp Gender: Female Marriage Place: Essex, England Father: Walter Kemp Spouse: Walter Landall Dickson Search Photos: Source Description: Marriage Register; Service of Church: Registers of Baptisms, Marriages and Burials; Incumbent; Grays Thurrock, St Peter and St Paul; Parish Records;1922-1928
Her husband's death:
Walter L Dickson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Walter L Dickson Death Age: 74 Birth Date: abt 1855 Registration Date: Jul 1929[Aug 1929] [Sep 1929] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: Orsett Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 418
Edith M Dickson in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Edith M Dickson Gender: Female Marital Status: Widow Birth Date: 3 May 1885 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 2 Residence Place: Thurrock, Essex, England Occupation: Housekeeper Line Number: 31 Schedule Number: 217 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: Dcly Borough: Thurrock Registration district: 192-1 Household Members Age Edith M Dickson 54 Joseph Elsdon 71 Charles E Moore 54 Frederick W Moore 52
Edith M Dickson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Edith M Dickson Death Age: 80 Birth Date: abt 1885 Registration Date: Oct 1965[Nov 1965] [Dec 1965] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District: Thurrock Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 1018
One son:
Births Sep 1926 (>99%) Dickson Peter Kemp Orsett 4a 978
Married Joan Nora Bodell in Thurrock in 1954.
Deaths:
DICKSON, JOAN NORA 1927 GRO Reference: DOR Q1/2020 in ESSEX (463-1B) Entry Number 520281980
DICKSON, PETER 1926 GRO Reference: DOR Q1/2013 in ESSEX (463-1D) Entry Number 507929596
They had two sons in the 1950's. Their names are easily found on FreeBMD.
The older son probably married in 2002, but there's no sign of him or his wife on the ER after 2005.
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ErikaH
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9 Apr 2022 11:43 |
Name: Arthur Robert Kemp Baptism Age: 0 Birth Date: 2 Sep 1893 Baptism Date: 15 Nov 1893 Baptism Place: Gorleston with Southtown, Suffolk, England Father: Walter Kemp Mother: Martha Ann Kemp
Name: Arthur Robert Kemp Gender: Male Marriage Age: 32 Record Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1894 Marriage Date: 9 Aug 1926 Marriage Place: Dormansland, St John, Surrey, England Parish as it Appears: Dormansland Father: Walter Kemp Spouse: Gertrude Blanche Hill
1939 Register The Villa Dormans Land, Lingfield, Godstone R.D., Surrey, England Arthur R Kemp 02 Sep 1893 Male Incapacitated Married 260 1 Gertrude B Kemp 16 Oct 1892 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 260 2
Name: Arthur Robert Kemp Age: 57 Birth Date: abt 1894 Death Date: abt 1951 Burial Date: 21 Feb 1951 Burial Place: St John, Dormansland, Surrey, England Parish as it Appears: Dormansland
Name: Gertrude Blache Kemp Death Age: 97 Birth Date: 16 Oct 1892 Registration Date: Feb 1990 Registration District: Surrey South-eastern Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 17 Page: 992
Name: Gertrude Blanche Kemp Death Date: 17 Feb 1990 Death Place: Lingfield Sy Probate Date: 12 Mar 1990 Probate Registry: Brighton
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Maddie
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9 Apr 2022 13:01 |
Walter Robert County Suffolk Last name Kemp Country England Sex Male Archive Norfolk Record Office Birth year 1887 Archive reference PD 671/117 Birth date 03 Sep 1887 Register year range 1887-1897 Baptism year 1887 Page 9 Baptism date 02 Nov 1887 Document Type Parish registers Father's first name(s) Walter Record set Norfolk Baptisms Father's occupation Sail Maker Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Mother's first name(s) Martha Anne Subcategory Parish Baptisms Place Gorleston with Southtown, Suffolk Collections from England, Great Britain Diocese Norwich
Walter Robert Country England Last name Kemp Archive Norfolk Record Office Sex Male Archive reference PD 671/125 Birth year 1888 Document type Parish registers Age 4 Event Burials Burial year 1892 Year range 1891-1901 Burial date 09 Apr 1892 Page 12 Residence Gorleston Record set Norfolk Burials Place Gorleston with Southtown, Suffolk Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Diocese Norwich Subcategory Parish Burials County Suffolk
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9 Apr 2022 13:06 |
Nellie Maud County Suffolk Last name Kemp Country England Sex Female Archive Norfolk Record Office Birth year 1889 Archive reference PD 671/117 Birth date 18 Sep 1889 Register year range 1887-1897 Baptism year 1890 Page 84 Baptism date 17 Dec 1890 Document Type Parish registers Father's first name(s) Walter Record set Norfolk Baptisms Father's occupation Sail Maker Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Mother's first name(s) Martha Ann Subcategory Parish Baptisms Place Gorleston with Southtown, Suffolk Collections from England, Great Britain Diocese Norwich
Nellie Maud Country England Last name Kemp Archive Norfolk Record Office Sex Female Archive reference PD 671/125 Birth year 1890 Document type Parish registers Age 2 Event Burials Burial year 1892 Year range 1891-1901 Burial date 09 Apr 1892 Page 13 Residence Gorleston Record set Norfolk Burials Place Gorleston with Southtown, Suffolk Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Diocese Norwich Subcategory Parish Burials County Suffolk
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9 Apr 2022 13:28 |
1921 shows living with Martha, Annie, Edith Mary (1858) and Walter Mary Kemp, born c1914 Camberwell
Her birth registration in 1913 suggests that she was illegitimate
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Maddie
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9 Apr 2022 13:38 |
Annie Allured County Suffolk Last name Kempe Country England Sex Female Archive Norfolk Record Office Birth year 1896 Archive reference PD 671/118 Birth date 16 Nov 1896 Register year range 1897-1904 Baptism year 1900 Page 44 Baptism date 14 Oct 1900 Document Type Parish registers Father's first name(s) Walter Record set Norfolk Baptisms Father's occupation Sailmaker Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Mother's first name(s) Martha Ann Subcategory Parish Baptisms Place Gorleston with Southtown, Suffolk Collections from England, Great Britain Diocese Norwich
Annie Allured Father's occupation Soil Maker Last name Kemp Spouse's father's first name(s) James Frederick Davey Marital status S Spouse's father's last name Horsman Residence Grays Thurrock County Essex Marriage year 1922 Country England Marriage date 30 Oct 1922 Archive Essex Record Office Place Grays Thurrock, Ss Peter & Paul Archive reference D/P 382/1/27 Spouse's first name(s) James Thomas Event type Marriages Spouse's last name Horsman Page number 8 Spouse's marital status B Record set Essex Marriages And Banns 1537-1935 Spouse's residence Grays Thurrock Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Father's first name(s) Walter Subcategory Parish Marriages Father's last name Kemp
1939 Register 52 Whitehall Lane, Grays, Thurrock U.D., Essex, England 1939 register badge View original record Household members (6 people) First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number James T Horsman 14 Oct 1894 Male Warehouse Foreman Docks Married 235 1 Annie A Horsman 16 Nov 1896 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 235 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed. Victor James Horsman 19 Aug 1931 Male - - 235 5
4 children born orsett 1923, 25, 31, 34
The record for this person is officially closed.
Victor J County Essex Last name Horsman Country England Marriage quarter 3 Volume 4A Marriage year 1953 Volume as transcribed 4A Registration month - Page number 2018 MarriageFinder™ Victor J Horsman married one of these people Louvaine M M A Leyland
son born 1960 thurrock marrieed 2003 thurrock
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9 Apr 2022 15:00 |
Ethel Sarah County Suffolk Last name Kemp Country England Sex Female Archive Norfolk Record Office Birth year 1880 Archive reference PD 671/115 Birth date 14 Jun 1880 Register year range 1879-1883 Baptism year 1880 Page 24 Baptism date 10 Oct 1880 Document Type Parish registers Father's first name(s) Walter Record set Norfolk Baptisms Father's occupation Sail Maker Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Mother's first name(s) Martha Ann Subcategory Parish Baptisms Place Gorleston with Southtown, Suffolk Collections from England, Great Britain Diocese Norwich
Ethel Sarah Country England Last name Kemp Volume 4A Birth quarter 3 Page 831 Birth year 1880 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Mother's maiden name Allured Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Mutford Subcategory Civil Births County Suffolk
Ethel Sarah District Mutford Last name Kemp County Suffolk Gender Female Volume 4A Birth day - Page 456 Birth month - Country England Birth year 1880 Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Age 2 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Death quarter 3 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Death year 1882
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9 Apr 2022 15:32 |
if you wish to go back water kemp father robert john b 1821 barking married Elizabeth Ann Falloven b 1820 essex
Elizabeth Ann Fallover Birth Date: 18 May Baptism Date: 18 Jun 1820 Baptism Place: Essex, England Search Photos: Search for 'Romford, St Edward the Confessor' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: John Fallover Mother: Susannah Fallover
Name: Robert John Kemp Gender: Male Baptism Date: 10 Dec 1820 Baptism Place: St. Margaret, Barking, Essex, England Father: Joseph Kemp Mother: Rosetta FHL Film Number: 1702104 Reference ID: p 199
Name: Martha A Allured Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: 1858 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Allured Mother's Name: Sarah Allured Gender: Female Where Born: Harleston, Norfolk, England
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11 Apr 2022 01:10 |
Erika/Maddie - wow! Thanks so much for this information. This is a goldmine! I'll also post for living relatives - I lost touch with so many and would love to reconnect.
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11 Apr 2022 01:20 |
What's the best way to search for living relatives? And does it only apply to those in the UK? I know some relatives emigrated to Australia and possibly South Africa, but the trail has grown cold. I contacted two members relating to Henry Kemp but never got a reply.
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11 Apr 2022 05:18 |
My aunt Gladys married Jabra Nehme in Haifa, but I don't have much information about that. I think he died in 1969. My aunt died around 2017-18. She had four sons - Emile, Andrew, Alex, and Willilam. Alex died in 2006.
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