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Great grandad William ousley

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Susan

Susan Report 2 Oct 2021 20:03

Hi looking for living relatives of William ousley and Lillian may ousley who lived in heavitree Exeter, their daughter gwendoline Minnie was my maternal grandmother who died 1950 , married to my gf who was Alfie thomas tancock , would love to know if she had any brothers and sisters and further generations
Thanks in advance
Sue

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 2 Oct 2021 21:04

Sue you have two of these requests. Please could you delete the other one.

You need to give us more information.
. How old was Gwendoline when she died? Where did she live? When do you think she married?

It is possible you may find her on the 1939 index and possibly on the 1911 census.
Using the free website www.freebmd.org.uk may help you.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Oct 2021 21:38

For our reference:

Her birth:

OUSLEY, GWENDOLINE MINNIE mmn MAY
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in EXETER Volume 05B Page 71

Her father's name was Charles, not William:

Marriages Jun 1908 (>99%)
MAY Lilian Lucy St. Germans 5c 74
Ousley Charles St. Germans 5c 74


Gwendoline seems to have been their only child.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Oct 2021 21:41

Gwendoline Ousley
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Gwendoline Ousley
Age in 1911: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Exeter, Devon
Civil Parish: Exeter
Country: England
Street Address: 29 Weirfield Road, Exeter
Registration District Number: 271
Sub-registration District: Exeter
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 12687
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Ousley 30 - Upton Pyne, Devon, plasterer
Lillian Lucy Ousley 29
Gwendoline Ousley 1

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Oct 2021 21:44

And her husband was Algie, not Alfie:

Gwendoline M Ousley
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Gwendoline M Ousley
Registration Date: Oct 1930[Nov 1930] [Dec 1930]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Exeter
Inferred County: Devon
Spouse: Algie T Tancock
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 230


Gwendoline M Tancock
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Gwendoline M Tancock
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 8 Jan 1910
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 11 Coronation Road
Residence Place: Exeter, Devon, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 29
Schedule Number: 202
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: WDCH
Borough: Exeter
Registration district: Exeter 217/1
Inferred Spouse:
Algie T Tancock
Household Members Age
Algie T Tancock 34
Gwendoline M Tancock 29

There are three closed records with them.


Algie Thomas Tancock
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Algie Thomas Tancock
Death Age: 75
Birth Date: 5 Nov 1906
Registration Date: Jan 1982[Feb 1982] [Mar 1982]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Exeter
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 21
Page: 1279


Gwendoline M Tancock
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Gwendoline M Tancock
Death Age: 40
Birth Date: abt 1910
Registration Date: Apr 1950[May 1950] [Jun 1950]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Exeter
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 389

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Oct 2021 21:53

Her mother died when Gwendoline was very young:

Lilian L Ousley
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Lilian L Ousley
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Death Registration Place: St Thomas, Devonshire, United Kingdom
Death Date: Mar 1913
Inferred Death Place: Devonshire, United Kingdom
Volume: 5b
Page: 60

Is this Charles remarrying ? with a middle initial not shown before?:

Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)
Bristow Ella L Ousley Wellington Som 5c 631
Ousley Charles H Bristow Wellington Som. 5c 631


Ella Louisa Ousley
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Name: Ella Louisa Ousley
Death Date: 22 Jul 1988
Death Place: Stithians Truro
Probate Date: 28 Sep 1988
Probate Registry: Bristol


Charles Ousley
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Charles Ousley
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 18 Jul 1880
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 35 South Lawn Terrace
Residence Place: Exeter, Devon, England
Occupation: Jobbing Builder Heavy Worker
Line Number: 20
Schedule Number: 151
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: WDBP
Borough: Exeter
Registration district: 271/1
Inferred Spouse:
Ella Ousley
Household Members Age
Charles Ousley 59
Ella Ousley 40


???

Charles Ousley
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Charles Ousley
Death Age: 90
Birth Date: 24 Jul 1880
Registration Date: Jul 1970[Aug 1970] [Sep 1970]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Exeter
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 1038


Charles Ousley
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Name: Charles Ousley
Death Date: 12 Aug 1970
Death Place: Devon
Probate Date: 22 Sep 1970
Probate Registry: Bristol

OUSLEY, Charles of Charelle, Heath Hill, Broadclyst, Devon, died 12 August 1970.
Probate Bristol 22 September. £5380.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Oct 2021 22:02

Charles and Ella had two children - half-siblings to Gwendoline if that 1919 marriage for Charles is the correct one.

Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Ousley Elsie D Bristow Exeter 5b 170

Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
Ousley Charles E J Bristow Exeter 5b 128



Charles Edward John Ousley
in the UK, Commonwealth War Graves, 1914-1921 and 1939-1947
Name: Charles Edward John Ousley
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Birth Date: abt 1922
Death Date: 28 Feb 1945
Cemetery: Suda Bay War Cemetery Gre. 10
Burial Country: Greece
Regimental Number: 189964
Region or Memorial: Greece
Father: Charles Ousley
Mother: Ella Ousley


Pilot Officer ( Pilot ) Charles Edward Ousley
in the Global, Find a Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current
Name: Pilot Officer ( Pilot ) Charles Edward Ousley
Death Date: 28 Feb 1945
Cemetery: Suda Bay War Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Chania, Regional unit of Chania, Crete, Greece



Elsie D Ousley
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Elsie D Ousley
Registration Date: Apr 1943[May 1943] [Jun 1943]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Exeter
Inferred County: Devon
Spouse: John Farroll
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 244


MS Elsie Dorothy Farrell
in the England and Wales, Death Index, 1989-2019
Name: MS Elsie Dorothy Farrell
Gender: Female
Age: 88
Birth Date: 1921
Last Residence: Helston, Cornwall, England
Postal Code District: Tr13
Death Date: 22 Jan 2009

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Oct 2021 22:04

Elsie and John Farrell had two children, born in Exeter in 1944 and 1955.

You can find their names on FreeBMD by searching births with the two parental surnames.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Oct 2021 10:32

To find any living relatives, start by looking in ‘search all member trees’ for the names you have. If anyone else has them in GR trees, try sending contact message(s)

Also, make sure you tree on here is up-to-date and accurate, so that anyone searching will find your entries

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Oct 2021 14:09

Gwendoline's father had lots of siblings, so maybe some of them have living descendants.


Charles's parents' marriage:

John Ousley
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: John Ousley
Registration Year: 1861
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: St Thomas
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 103
Records on Page:
Name
John Ousley
Anna Pope


John Ousley
in the 1871 England Census
Name: John Ousley
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: 1837
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Thorverton Devon England
Civil parish: Upton Pyne
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: St Thomas
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 37
Piece: 2055
Folio: 58
Page number: 6
Household Members Age Relationship
John Ousley 34 Head
Anna Ousley 33 Wife
William Ousley 8 Son
John Ousley 7 Son
James Ousley 6 Son
George Ausley 5 Son
Elizabeth Ausley 3 Daughter
Walter Ausley 3 Son


Charles Ousley
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Charles Ousley
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: John Ousley
Mother: Anna Ousley
Gender: Male
Where born: Upton Pyne, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Upton Pyne
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address: Road
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Registration District: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors:
Piece: 2145
Folio: 85
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
John Ousley 44
Anna Ousley 42
George Ousley 14
Walter Ousley 11
Edmund Ousley 7
Sidney Ousley 4
Charles Ousley [8 months ]


Charles Ousley
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Charles Ousley
Gender: Male
Age: 10
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1881
Father: John Ousley
Mother: Anna Ousley
Birth Place: Upton Pyne, Devon, England
Civil parish: Upton Pyne
Ecclesiastical parish: Upton Pyne
Residence Place: Whitestone, Upton Pyne, Devon, England
Registration district: St Thomas
Sub registration district: St Thomas
ED, Institution or Vessel: 14
Neighbors:
Piece: 1683
Folio: 89
Household Members Age Relationship
John Ousley 56 Head
Anna Ousley 52 Wife
James Ousley 24 Son
Edmond Ousley 17 Son
Sidney Ousley 14 Son
Charles Ousley 10 Son
Emily Ousley 7 Daughter


Births:

OUSLEY, WILLIAM HENRY mmn POPE
GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in ST THOMAS Volume 05B Page 67

OUSLEY, JOHN mmn POPE
GRO Reference: 1863 D Quarter in ST. THOMAS Volume 05B Page 66

OUSLEY, JAMES mmn POPE
GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in ST THOMAS Volume 05B Page 69

OUSLEY, GEORGE mmn POPE
GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in ST THOMAS Volume 05B Page 63

OUSLEY, ELIZABETH mmn POPE
GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in ST THOMAS Volume 05B Page 69

OUSLEY, ANNIE mmn POPE [died in 1869 ]
GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 76


OUSLEY, WALTER mmn POPE
GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 70

ONSLEY, SIDNEY mmn POPE
GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in ST THOMAS Volume 05B Page 67

ONSLEY, LUCY mmn POPE [died 1879 ]
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in ST THOMAS Volume 05B Page 66

ONSLEY, CHARLES mmn POPE
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 69

ONSLEY, EMILY mmn POPE
GRO Reference: 1883 J Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 69

WOUSLEY, EDMUND mmn POPE
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in SAINT THOMAS Volume 05B Page 69

Edmund died in 1895.
Walter and George are both boarders with a Jones family in Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan in 1891.
Emily married Reginald Hooper in 1912.

1901 Sidney's a coachman in Burrington, Devon, and in 1901 he's a groom in Hove (claiming to be born 1880). He married Charlotte Bridger in Sussex in 1919, and in 1939 they're living in Chichester (his DOB as 1879) . He died 1959 in Selsey, Sussex

George seems to have moved to Lancashire, marrying Elizabeth Ann Dransfield in 1907, and living in Radcliffe, Lancs in 1939. He died in 1949.

Walter also moved to Lancashire. He married Elizabeth Long in Manchester in 1895, and was living in Ardwick in 1901, and in 1911 (by which time they had Ethel 15, Olive 9, Annie May 6, and William Walter 2.
He died in 1918.

Elizabeth was a servant in Heavitree in 1881, and in Canterbury in 1891.
In 1892 she married Wiliam Henry Roberts in Canterbury.
By 1901 they had Winifred Roberts 8, Dorothy Roberts 6, Mabel Roberts 3.
By 1911 ,they also had William and Albert - but her husband's not with her.
.Elizabeth probably died in Chatham , Kent in 1954.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Oct 2021 09:25

I haven't posted anything about Gwendoline's children, and any descendants they might have had, as I assume you know about them:

She had five children, including twin boys who both died soon after birth, sadly.

Births Mar 1938 (>99%)
Tancock Charles E Ousley Exeter 5b 77
Tancock Eric Ousley Exeter 5b 77

Deaths Mar 1938 (>99%)
TANCOCK Charles E 0 Exeter 5b 94
TANCOCK Eric 0 Exeter 5b 95

Susan

Susan Report 24 Oct 2021 16:30

Thankyou so much this is amazing

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Oct 2021 16:46

New thread started:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1398020


Susan -

please continue on this existing thread, and not on the new one, to save people repeating research - as Maddie has done already.

There's nothing to be gained by asking virtually the same question again.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 Oct 2021 17:18

Re the two children of Elsie (Charles's daughter by his second marriage) as mentioned earlier:

the 1955 child may perhaps have married in 1989 in Glamorgan, and may perhaps have been living in Dorchester in 2010.
I can't see him definitely after that.

According to a correction to the 1989 bride's surname on Ancestry, she appears to have remarried , and is currently living in Wales (per ER).



Unfortunately, Elsie's 1944 child has such a common name that's it's impossible to pick out any other records.
There is no further record of that child in Devon - but loads of records for people of that name in many other places.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Oct 2021 10:21

All loosely connected

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1336375
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1232300
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1083542
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1083538
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1079743
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1075404
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/873554

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Oct 2021 11:15

Have you followed up on the info I posted about Charles's siblings on 3 Oct at 14:09 ?

Emily, who married Reginald Hooper, had no children.
They are together in Exeter in 1939. Emily died in 1950.

Edmund, who died in 1895, didn't marry.

Walter, who, as already said, was with his brother George in Glamorgan in 1891,
and in West Gorton, Lancs in 1911 with wife Elizabeth and children Ethel, Olive, Annie May, and William Walter.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Oct 2021 11:39

Charles's brother George, as already said on 3 Oct. married Elizabeth Ann Dransfield.
They had only one child, Vera, in 1917, who sadly died in 1918.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Oct 2021 11:57

Walter's daughter Ethel (born 1896) married in 1924 :

Ethel Ousley
in the Manchester, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
Name: Ethel Ousley
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 26
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1898
Marriage Date: 21 Apr 1924
Marriage Place: West Gorton, St Mark, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Gorton, St Michael
Father: Walter Ousley
Spouse: Joseph Edward Gratton

I can't see either Ethel or her husband definitely after that - and no sign of children.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Oct 2021 12:33

Walter's daughter Olive (born 17 Dec 1901) died unmarried, in Ashton in 1967.

His daughter Annie May (born 29 May 1904) married in 1930:

Annie May Ousley
in the Manchester, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
Name: Annie May Ousley
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 24
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1906
Marriage Date: 9 Jun 1930
Marriage Place: West Gorton, St Mark, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Gorton, St Michael
Father: Walter Ousley
Spouse: Ernest Edward Ward

She died in 1999 in Stoke on Trent, Staffs.
She and Ernest seem to have had only one child:

Births Dec 1936 (>99%)
Ward Walter A Ousley Newcastle L. 6b 105

Sadly, he died:

Deaths Jun 1937 (>99%)
Ward Walter A 0 Ashton 8d 713



Walter Ous(e)ley's son, William Walter (born 2 Sept 1908) died in 1997 in the Greater Manchester area.

He had married in 1938:

William W Ousley
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: William W Ousley
Registration Date: Jul 1938[Aug 1938] [Sep 1938]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Ashton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Spouse: Edith M Stenton
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 2026

They had two children, born in Ashton, 1939 and 1944.

The 1944 child probably married in Ashton in 1965, and had two children, one born in Ashton in 1968 (who married in Greater Manchester in 1990 and had two children 1995 and 1998), and the other in 1971.


The 1939 child married in Ashton in 1958, and had two children in Ashton, 1959 and 1961.
Appears to be still living in Manchester, though the spouse died in 2018.

I'll stop there - it's too complicated without being able to name names of living people.

You can track down much of this on FreeBMD.


There are still lots of other siblings of Walter , as listed on 3 Oct, (and their descendants if any) to track forward to the present day.

Shaun

Shaun Report 24 Oct 2023 20:09

Bit late to this but I am the 1955 child of Elsie referred to above, the 1944 child, my brother Peter sadly died in 2021.
Gwen was my mothers loved and sadly missed sister (strictly speaking half sister but mum never thought of her in that way).
I came to this by accident searching for a mention if my Primary school relative, Billy Ousley, we were at Newtown Primary School in the 1960’s.