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19 Dec 2020 15:17 |
Francis Last name Pothonier Age 27 Birth year 1819 Residence - Marriage year 1846 Parish St Mary-Le-Strand Spouse's first name(s) Ellen Spouse's last name Beeston Spouse age 28 Spouse's birth year 1818 Father's first name(s) Francis John Nicholas Father's last name Pothonier Spouse's father's first name(s) Joseph Spouse's father's last name Talbot County Middlesex Country England
Francis Last name Pothonier Gender Male Birth year - Birth place - Baptism year 1818 Baptism date 17 Jul 1818 Place - County London Country England Father's first name(s) Francis Father's last name Pothonier Mother's first name(s) Ann Mother's last name -
Name: Ellen Beeston [Ellen Talbott] Gender: Female Marriage Age: 28 Birth Date: abt 1818 Marriage Date: 13 May 1846 Marriage Place: St Mary Le Strand, London, Westminster, England Parish as it Appears: St Mary le Strand Search Photos: Search for 'St Mary Le Strand' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: Joseph Talbott Spouse: Francis Pothonier
Name: Ellen Talbot Gender: Female Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 17 Feb 1816 Baptism Place: Islington St Mary, Islington, England Father: Joseph Talbot Mother: Hannah Talbot Register Type: Parish Registers
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19 Dec 2020 15:02 |
Commonwealth War Graves Commission Debt Of Honour Learn about this record set What can I do with this record? Add To Tree First name(s) Claude Theodore Last name Hurley Birth year 1880 Age 37 Death year 1917 Death date 17 Aug 1917 Number 202180 Rank Gunner Unit 463rd Bty. 179th Bde. Regiment Royal Field Artillery Grave reference I. M. 4. Cemetery or memorial Aix-Noulette Communal Cemetery Extension Burial country France Additional information Son of Walter and Clara Hurley; husband of Amie Edith Hurley, of 48, Arden St., Earlsdon, Coventry. Born in London. Link https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-dead
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19 Dec 2020 14:44 |
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Raymond Bragg Last name Brocklebank Name note - Marriage year 1872 Marriage date 23 Jun 1872 Marriage place Deptford Spouse's first name(s) Ellen Louisa Spouse's last name de Pothonier Spouse's age - Residence Deptford, Kent, England County Kent Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
341, Kennington Road, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England
Raymond B Brocklebank Head Married Male 29 1852 Commercial Clerk Greenwich, Kent, England Elena L Brocklebank Wife Married Female 32 1849 - Camden Town, Middlesex, England Amy E Brocklebank Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Lewisham, Kent, England Francis N Brocklebank Son Single Male 3 1878 - Forest Hill, Kent, England Jennul D Fothonier Brocklebank Son Single Male 1 1880 - Gravesend, Kent, England
tree on ancestry suggests these are the children of annie e broclebank and claude t hurley but no marriage found
Annie De Pothonier Hurley
1904– Claude W F Hurley
1906–1974 Morris P Hurley
1908–1987 Helen Clara Hurley
1909–1909 Aline Hurley
1915
1911 Census For England & Wales
48 Arden St Coventry, Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Claude T Hurley Head Married Male 31 1880 Commercial Clerk Leytanston Essex Annie E Hurley Wife Married Female 32 1879 - Lewisham Kent Annie De Pothoneir Hurley Daughter - Female 7 1904 School Forest Gate Essex Claude W F Hurley Son - Male 5 1906 - Coventry Warwick Morris P Hurley Son - Male 2 1909 - Coventry Warwic
Claude Theodore Last name Hurley Service number 202180 Rank Gunner Regiment Royal Horse Artillery And Royal Field Artillery Battalion - Battalion details - Residence Coventry, Warwick Birth place - Enlistment place Coventry Death year 1917 Death day 17 Death month 8 Cause of death Killed in action Death place France & Flanders Theatre of war Western European Theatre Supplementary Notes FORMERLY 82218, R.G.A.
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18 Dec 2020 21:17 |
To put it simply , in light of all the records above -
your Amie de Pothonier Layne (nee Hurley)'s mother was Annie/Amy Edith Brocklebank, and Annie/Amy Edith's mother was Ellen Louisa Pothonier.
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18 Dec 2020 17:34 |
Dorothea De P Wilson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Dorothea De P Wilson Registration Date: Apr 1935 [May 1935] [Jun 1935] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration District: Islington Inferred County: London Spouse: Robert W Prosser Volume Number: 1b Page Number: 607
Dorothea De Pothnier Prosser { and Robert Wallace Prosser.} in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Dorothea De Pothnier Prosser Electoral Date: 1937 Street Address: 105 Tufnell Park Road Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington East and North County or Borough: Islington, England
Dorothea De P Prosser in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Dorothea De P Prosser Death Age: 57 Birth Date: abt 1900 Registration Date: Jan 1957 [Feb 1957] [Mar 1957] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District: Uckfield Inferred County: Sussex Volume: 5h Page: 502
She's not with Robert in 1939:
Robert W Prosser in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Robert W Prosser Gender: Male Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 17 Aug 1907 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 61 A Residence Place: Stoke Newington, London, England Occupation: Gas Fitter Line Number: 22 Schedule Number: 10 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: AWAN Borough: Stoke Newington Registration district: 11-1
Robert Wallace Prosser in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917 Name: Robert Wallace Prosser Baptism Age: 1 Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 17 Aug 1907 Baptism Date: 26 Nov 1908 Baptism Place: St Matthew, Islington, Islington, England Father: John Henry Prosser Mother: Florence Mary Prosser
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18 Dec 2020 17:32 |
Ellen Louisa Pothonier Gender: Female Birth Date: 17 Oct 1848 Baptism Date: 11 Apr 1849 Baptism Place: Old Church,Saint Pancras,London,England Father: Francis Pothonier Mother: Ellen FHL Film Number: 598168, 598169, 598170, 598171
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18 Dec 2020 17:29 |
Name: Ellen Louisa De Pothonier Gender: Female Marriage Age: 23 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1849 Marriage Date: 20 Jul 1872 Marriage Place: St Paul, Deptford, Lewisham, England Spouse: Raymond Bragg Brockelbank Register Type: Parish Register
Father Francis de Ponthonier civil service clerk
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18 Dec 2020 17:27 |
Annie was Amy !
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: BROCKELBANK, AMY EDITH POTHONIER GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 854
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18 Dec 2020 17:24 |
Frank Bonchord's brother Thomas William - though "brother" has a question mark at it on the 1901 census, for both of the Wilsons:
WILSON THOMAS WILLIAM M 1879 021/ 105 Kirkwall and St Ola
Thomas William Wilson in the 1881 Scotland Census Name: Thomas William Wilson Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Thomas Wilson Mother's Name: Jane Wilson Gender: Male Where born: Kirkwall, Orkney Registration Number: 21 Registration District: Kirkwall and St Ola Civil Parish: Kirkwall and St Ola County: Orkney Address: High St ED: 1 Household Schedule Number: 47 Line: 6 Roll: cssct1881_5 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Wilson 43 Jane Wilson 41 Stewart Wilson 20 - Fair Isle John Thomas Wilson 10 - Kirkwall Lawrence Wilson 6 - Kirkwall <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Thomas William Wilson 1 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Jane Agnes Wilson 18 Johannah Wilson 13
WILSON JOHN THOMAS M 1870 021/ 57 Kirkwall and St Ola
It seems as if John Thomas Wilson rebranded himself as Frank Orcadia Bonchord for a while. And then back again by 1911.
John Thomas Wilson in the 1911 England Census Name: John Thomas Wilson Age in 1911: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Wall, Orkney, Scotland Civil Parish: Battersea County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 50 Mysore Rd, Clapham Junction, Lavender Hill, SW Marital status: Married Occupation: Advertising Agent Registration District: Wandsworth Registration District Number: 26 Sub-registration District: South West Battersea ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Piece: 2230 Household Members: Name Age John Thomas Wilson 40 - advertising agent Amy Wilson 30 - Hastings, Sussex Raymond Wilson 12 - London <<<<<<<< [ Raymond Bonchord ?? ] Dorothy Wilson 11 - Essex <<<<<<<<<< [ Dorothea Bonchord ?? ] Lawrence Frederick Stone 22 - boarder Harry Furmage 30 - boarder Erminia Di Napoli 52 - visitor,Italy Elvira Di Napoli 24 - visitor, Italy
Raymond Brocklebank Wilson in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Raymond Brocklebank Wilson Electoral Date: 1930 Street Address: 8 Maud Arrabella [ 8 Tollington Road on image ] Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington East and North County or Borough: Islington, England
Raymond B Wilson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Raymond B Wilson Death Age: 55 Birth Date: abt 1898 Registration Date: Oct 1953 [Nov 1953] [Dec 1953] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District: Edmonton Inferred County: Essex Volume: 5e Page: 349
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18 Dec 2020 16:54 |
Morris Percy Hurley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Morris Percy Hurley Death Age: 78 Birth Date: 30 May 1908 Registration Date: Mar 1987 Registration District: Coventry Inferred County: West Midlands Volume: 33 Page: 261
I can't see his birth.
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18 Dec 2020 16:48 |
Annie is with single son and daughter in 1939
Aline Hurley Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Birth Date: 6 Jan 1915 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 17 Residence Place: Meriden, Warwickshire, England Occupation: Incapacitated Line Number: 25 Schedule Number: 141 Sub Schedule Number: 3 Enumeration District: QFEL Borough: Meriden Registration district: 386/2 Household Members Age Annie E Hurley 65 Morris Percy Hurley 31 Aline Hurley 24
Daughter birth
Aline Hurley Mother's Maiden Name: Brocklebank >>>>{ Registration Year: 1915 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District: Coventry Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 1534
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18 Dec 2020 16:43 |
Anny Edith Brockelbank in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917 Name: Anny Edith Brockelbank [Amy Edith Brockelbank] Gender: Male Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 4 Mar 1874 Baptism Place: Brockley St Peter, Lewisham, England Father: Reynard Bragg Brockelbank Mother: Ellen Louisa Brockelbank Register Type: Parish Registers
Amie E Hurley in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Amie E Hurley Death Age: 82 Birth Date: abt 1874 Registration Date: Jan 1956 [Feb 1956] [Mar 1956] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District: Meriden Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 9c Page: 987
Apparently she didn't remarry, even though Claude's army record says she did. At least the transcription does - can't see the original without sub to fold3.
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18 Dec 2020 16:42 |
Claude T Hurley's death:
Gnr Claude Theodore Hurley in the Global, Find A Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current Name: Gnr Claude Theodore Hurley Death Date: 17 Aug 1917 Cemetery: Aix-Noulette Communal Cemetery Extension Burial or Cremation Place: Aix-Noulette, Departement du Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
Claude Theodore Hurley in the UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 Name: Claude Theodore Hurley Residence: Coventry, Warwick Death Date: 17 Aug 1917 Death Place: France and Flanders Enlistment Place: Coventry Rank: Gunner Regiment: Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery Regimental Number: 202180 Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre Comments: Formerly 82218, R.G.A
Claude Theodore Hurley in the UK, World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923
View Original Image on Fold3.
Name: Claude Theodore Hurley Rank: Gunner Record Type: Card Service Number: 202180 Corps, Regiment or Unit: Royal Field Artillery Title: WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers Description: Widows and Dependents of Other Ranks Died Hunter J-Hutchinson AJ Next of Kin: Name Relation to Soldier Claude Theodore Hurley Annie Edith Hurley Remarried Wife
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18 Dec 2020 16:42 |
Different spelling surname
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: HARLEY, CLAUDE FRANCIS JEWKES GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 102
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18 Dec 2020 16:32 |
Ancestry suggests this is the mother Annie E in 1901 with a previous husband. Note daughter Dorothy's middle name:
Dorothy Potbrossin Bonchord in the 1901 England Census Name: Dorothy Potbrossin Bonchord [Dorothy Pothonier Bomnchord] Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: Frank Orcadia Bonchord Mother: Annie Edith Bonchord Birth Place: Islington, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration District: West Ham Sub-registration District: Forest Gate ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: Piece: 1589 Folio: 69 Page Number: 26 Household Schedule Number: 173 Household Members: Name Age Frank Orcadia Bonchord 30 - Orkney, clerk, surveyor of taxes Annie Edith Bonchord 27 - Lewisham Cameron Duncar Wilson Bonchord 2 - London Dorothy Potbrossin Bonchord 1 - OIslington Laurance Wilson 26 - brother, Forest Gate, Essex Thomas William Wilson 21 - brother, Scotland Eleanor Gouriersant 20 - servant, London
And Annie Edith's marriage:
Annie Edith Brockelbank in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: Annie Edith Brockelbank Registration Year: 1897 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District: Islington Inferred County: London Volume: 1b Page: 683 Records on Page: Name Frank Bonchord Annie Edith Brockelbank
Frank Arcadia Bonchord in the Web: London, England, Proceedings of the Old Bailey and Ordinary's Accounts Index, 1674-1913 Name: Frank Arcadia Bonchord Gender: Male Court Date: 9 Sep 1902 Court Place: London, England Role: defendant Offense: Category: Deception; Subcategory: forgery Verdict: Guilty Punishment: Category: Imprison; Subcategory: Hard Labour Collection: Proceedings of the Old Bailey ID: def2-644-19020909 Reference Number: t19020909-644
Annie Edith Bonchord in the Web: London, England, Proceedings of the Old Bailey and Ordinary's Accounts Index, 1674-1913 Name: Annie Edith Bonchord Gender: Female Birth Year: abt 1874 Court Date: 9 Sep 1902 Court Place: London, England Role: defendant Offense: Category: Deception; Subcategory: fraud Verdict: Multiple Verdicts; Multiple Verdicts Punishment: Category: Imprison; Subcategory: Hard Labour Collection: Proceedings of the Old Bailey ID: def1-645-19020909 Reference Number: t19020909-645
BONCHORD, DOROTHEA DE POTHONIER mmn BROCKLEBANK GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 207
BONCHORD, RAYMOND WILSON mmn BROCKELBANK GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 349
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18 Dec 2020 16:11 |
Aurie De Pothericer Hurley in the 1911 England Census Name: Aurie De Pothericer Hurley Age in 1911: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Forest Gate, Essex, England Civil Parish: Coventry County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address: 48 Arden St Coventry Occupation: School Registration District: Coventry Registration District Number: 390 Sub-registration District: St John ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Piece: 18527 Household Members: Name Age Claude T Hurley 31 - Leytonstone Aurie E Hurley 32 - Lewisham, Kent Aurie De Pothericer Hurley 7 Claude W F Hurley 5 - Coventry Morris P Hurley 2 - Coventry
Parents married 9 years. 4 children - 3 living, 1 deceased.
Can't find any such marriage.
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18 Dec 2020 16:03 |
More for our info:
Annie D Layne in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Annie D Layne Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 19 Nov 1903 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 24 Chestnut Tree Ave Residence Place: Coventry, Warwickshire, England Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties Line Number: 1 Schedule Number: 68 Sub Schedule Number: 2 Enumeration District: QDQW Borough: Coventry Registration district: 390-2 Household Members Age Harry L Layne 39 Annie D Layne 36 Margaret E Layne 11 Annie B Layne 2 [ later married Hodson ] This record is officially closed.
Harry Layne in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Harry Layne Registration Date: Jul 1926 [Aug 1926] [Sep 1926] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: Coventry Inferred County: Warwickshire Spouse: Annie D Hurley Volume Number: 6d Page Number: 1583
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18 Dec 2020 15:50 |
Have a look in search all member trees
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18 Dec 2020 15:49 |
Look under "Search all member trees" under "Search" at top right of this page. There are two people with the surname Pothonier in people's trees, and four called De Pothonier.
If you think any of them (two have no birthplace given, but the rest were born in England) might be relevant, click on "Find out more" at the right of the tree owner's name, and send a message.
For our info:
Amie De Pothonier Layne in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Amie De Pothonier Layne Death Age: 83 Birth Date: 19 Nov 1903 Registration Date: Feb 1987 Registration District: Peterborough Inferred County: Cambridgeshire Volume: 9 Page: 1269
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18 Dec 2020 15:45 |
my husbands grandmother was called Amie De Pothonier Layne born 1903 -1987 we understand her middle name was her mothers maiden name has any one got this name in their family tree
many thanks
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