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my husbands grandmother was called Amie De Pothonier Layne born 1903 -1987
we understand her middle name was her mothers maiden name has any one got this name in their family tree

many thanks

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Amie De Pothonier Layne
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Amie De Pothonier Layne
Death Age: 83
Birth Date: 19 Nov 1903
Registration Date: Feb 1987
Registration District: Peterborough
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 9
Page: 1269

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Annie D Layne
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Annie D Layne
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 19 Nov 1903
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 24 Chestnut Tree Ave
Residence Place: Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 1
Schedule Number: 68
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: QDQW
Borough: Coventry
Registration district: 390-2
Household Members Age
Harry L Layne 39
Annie D Layne 36
Margaret E Layne 11
Annie B Layne 2 [ later married Hodson ]
This record is officially closed.



Harry Layne
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Harry Layne
Registration Date: Jul 1926
[Aug 1926]
[Sep 1926]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Coventry
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Spouse: Annie D Hurley
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 1583

Aurie De Pothericer Hurley
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Aurie De Pothericer Hurley
Age in 1911: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Forest Gate, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Coventry
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 48 Arden St Coventry
Occupation: School
Registration District: Coventry
Registration District Number: 390
Sub-registration District: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Piece: 18527
Household Members:
Name Age
Claude T Hurley 31 - Leytonstone
Aurie E Hurley 32 - Lewisham, Kent
Aurie De Pothericer Hurley 7
Claude W F Hurley 5 - Coventry
Morris P Hurley 2 - Coventry

Parents married 9 years.
4 children - 3 living, 1 deceased.


Can't find any such marriage.

Ancestry suggests this is the mother Annie E in 1901 with a previous husband.
Note daughter Dorothy's middle name:

Dorothy Potbrossin Bonchord
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Dorothy Potbrossin Bonchord
[Dorothy Pothonier Bomnchord]
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Frank Orcadia Bonchord
Mother: Annie Edith Bonchord
Birth Place: Islington, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: Emmanuel
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration District: West Ham
Sub-registration District: Forest Gate
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors:
Piece: 1589
Folio: 69
Page Number: 26
Household Schedule Number: 173
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Orcadia Bonchord 30 - Orkney, clerk, surveyor of taxes
Annie Edith Bonchord 27 - Lewisham
Cameron Duncar Wilson Bonchord 2 - London
Dorothy Potbrossin Bonchord 1 - OIslington
Laurance Wilson 26 - brother, Forest Gate, Essex
Thomas William Wilson 21 - brother, Scotland
Eleanor Gouriersant 20 - servant, London


And Annie Edith's marriage:

Annie Edith Brockelbank
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Annie Edith Brockelbank
Registration Year: 1897
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Islington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 683
Records on Page:
Name
Frank Bonchord
Annie Edith Brockelbank



Frank Arcadia Bonchord
in the Web: London, England, Proceedings of the Old Bailey and Ordinary's Accounts Index, 1674-1913
Name: Frank Arcadia Bonchord
Gender: Male
Court Date: 9 Sep 1902
Court Place: London, England
Role: defendant
Offense: Category: Deception; Subcategory: forgery
Verdict: Guilty
Punishment: Category: Imprison; Subcategory: Hard Labour
Collection: Proceedings of the Old Bailey
ID: def2-644-19020909
Reference Number: t19020909-644


Annie Edith Bonchord
in the Web: London, England, Proceedings of the Old Bailey and Ordinary's Accounts Index, 1674-1913
Name: Annie Edith Bonchord
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1874
Court Date: 9 Sep 1902
Court Place: London, England
Role: defendant
Offense: Category: Deception; Subcategory: fraud
Verdict: Multiple Verdicts; Multiple Verdicts
Punishment: Category: Imprison; Subcategory: Hard Labour
Collection: Proceedings of the Old Bailey
ID: def1-645-19020909
Reference Number: t19020909-645



BONCHORD, DOROTHEA DE POTHONIER mmn BROCKLEBANK
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 207


BONCHORD, RAYMOND WILSON mmn BROCKELBANK
GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 349

Different spelling surname


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HARLEY, CLAUDE FRANCIS JEWKES
GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 102

Claude T Hurley's death:

Gnr Claude Theodore Hurley
in the Global, Find A Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current
Name: Gnr Claude Theodore Hurley
Death Date: 17 Aug 1917
Cemetery: Aix-Noulette Communal Cemetery Extension
Burial or Cremation Place: Aix-Noulette, Departement du Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France


Claude Theodore Hurley
in the UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
Name: Claude Theodore Hurley
Residence: Coventry, Warwick
Death Date: 17 Aug 1917
Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: Coventry
Rank: Gunner
Regiment: Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery
Regimental Number: 202180
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre
Comments: Formerly 82218, R.G.A



Claude Theodore Hurley
in the UK, World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923

View Original Image on Fold3.

Name: Claude Theodore Hurley
Rank: Gunner
Record Type: Card
Service Number: 202180
Corps, Regiment or Unit: Royal Field Artillery
Title: WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description: Widows and Dependents of Other Ranks Died Hunter J-Hutchinson AJ
Next of Kin:
Name Relation to Soldier
Claude Theodore Hurley
Annie Edith Hurley Remarried Wife

Anny Edith Brockelbank
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: Anny Edith Brockelbank
[Amy Edith Brockelbank]
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 4 Mar 1874
Baptism Place: Brockley St Peter, Lewisham, England
Father: Reynard Bragg Brockelbank
Mother: Ellen Louisa Brockelbank
Register Type: Parish Registers


Amie E Hurley
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Amie E Hurley
Death Age: 82
Birth Date: abt 1874
Registration Date: Jan 1956
[Feb 1956]
[Mar 1956]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Meriden
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 987

Apparently she didn't remarry, even though Claude's army record says she did.
At least the transcription does - can't see the original without sub to fold3.

Annie is with single son and daughter in 1939

Aline Hurley
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 6 Jan 1915
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 17
Residence Place: Meriden, Warwickshire, England
Occupation: Incapacitated
Line Number: 25
Schedule Number: 141
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: QFEL
Borough: Meriden
Registration district: 386/2
Household Members Age
Annie E Hurley
65
Morris Percy Hurley
31
Aline Hurley 24



Daughter birth

Aline Hurley
Mother's Maiden Name: Brocklebank >>>>{
Registration Year: 1915
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Coventry
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 1534

Morris Percy Hurley
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Morris Percy Hurley
Death Age: 78
Birth Date: 30 May 1908
Registration Date: Mar 1987
Registration District: Coventry
Inferred County: West Midlands
Volume: 33
Page: 261

I can't see his birth.

Frank Bonchord's brother Thomas William - though "brother" has a question mark at it on the 1901 census, for both of the Wilsons:

WILSON
THOMAS WILLIAM
M
1879
021/ 105
Kirkwall and St Ola


Thomas William Wilson
in the 1881 Scotland Census
Name: Thomas William Wilson
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Wilson
Mother's Name: Jane Wilson
Gender: Male
Where born: Kirkwall, Orkney
Registration Number: 21
Registration District: Kirkwall and St Ola
Civil Parish: Kirkwall and St Ola
County: Orkney
Address: High St
ED: 1
Household Schedule Number: 47
Line: 6
Roll: cssct1881_5
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Wilson 43
Jane Wilson 41
Stewart Wilson 20 - Fair Isle
John Thomas Wilson 10 - Kirkwall
Lawrence Wilson 6 - Kirkwall <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Thomas William Wilson 1 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Jane Agnes Wilson 18
Johannah Wilson 13


WILSON
JOHN THOMAS
M
1870
021/ 57
Kirkwall and St Ola




It seems as if John Thomas Wilson rebranded himself as Frank Orcadia Bonchord for a while.
And then back again by 1911.




John Thomas Wilson
in the 1911 England Census
Name: John Thomas Wilson
Age in 1911: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Wall, Orkney, Scotland
Civil Parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 50 Mysore Rd, Clapham Junction, Lavender Hill, SW
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Advertising Agent
Registration District: Wandsworth
Registration District Number: 26
Sub-registration District: South West Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 2230
Household Members:
Name Age
John Thomas Wilson 40 - advertising agent
Amy Wilson 30 - Hastings, Sussex
Raymond Wilson 12 - London <<<<<<<< [ Raymond Bonchord ?? ]
Dorothy Wilson 11 - Essex <<<<<<<<<< [ Dorothea Bonchord ?? ]
Lawrence Frederick Stone 22 - boarder
Harry Furmage 30 - boarder
Erminia Di Napoli 52 - visitor,Italy
Elvira Di Napoli 24 - visitor, Italy



Raymond Brocklebank Wilson
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Raymond Brocklebank Wilson
Electoral Date: 1930
Street Address: 8 Maud Arrabella [ 8 Tollington Road on image ]
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington East and North
County or Borough: Islington, England


Raymond B Wilson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Raymond B Wilson
Death Age: 55
Birth Date: abt 1898
Registration Date: Oct 1953
[Nov 1953]
[Dec 1953]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Edmonton
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 5e
Page: 349

Annie was Amy !


Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
BROCKELBANK, AMY EDITH POTHONIER
GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 854

Name: Ellen Louisa De Pothonier
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1849
Marriage Date: 20 Jul 1872
Marriage Place: St Paul, Deptford, Lewisham, England
Spouse: Raymond Bragg Brockelbank
Register Type: Parish Register

Father Francis de Ponthonier civil service clerk

Ellen Louisa Pothonier
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 17 Oct 1848
Baptism Date: 11 Apr 1849
Baptism Place: Old Church,Saint Pancras,London,England
Father: Francis Pothonier
Mother: Ellen
FHL Film Number: 598168, 598169, 598170, 598171

Dorothea De P Wilson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Dorothea De P Wilson
Registration Date: Apr 1935
[May 1935]
[Jun 1935]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Islington
Inferred County: London
Spouse: Robert W Prosser
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 607


Dorothea De Pothnier Prosser { and Robert Wallace Prosser.}
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Dorothea De Pothnier Prosser
Electoral Date: 1937
Street Address: 105 Tufnell Park Road
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington East and North
County or Borough: Islington, England


Dorothea De P Prosser
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Dorothea De P Prosser
Death Age: 57
Birth Date: abt 1900
Registration Date: Jan 1957
[Feb 1957]
[Mar 1957]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Uckfield
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 502


She's not with Robert in 1939:

Robert W Prosser
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Robert W Prosser
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 17 Aug 1907
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 61 A
Residence Place: Stoke Newington, London, England
Occupation: Gas Fitter
Line Number: 22
Schedule Number: 10
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: AWAN
Borough: Stoke Newington
Registration district: 11-1


Robert Wallace Prosser
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name: Robert Wallace Prosser
Baptism Age: 1
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 17 Aug 1907
Baptism Date: 26 Nov 1908
Baptism Place: St Matthew, Islington, Islington, England
Father: John Henry Prosser
Mother: Florence Mary Prosser

To put it simply , in light of all the records above -

your Amie de Pothonier Layne (nee Hurley)'s mother was Annie/Amy Edith Brocklebank, and Annie/Amy Edith's mother was Ellen Louisa Pothonier.

the connection

Raymond Bragg
Last name Brocklebank
Name note -
Marriage year 1872
Marriage date 23 Jun 1872
Marriage place Deptford
Spouse's first name(s) Ellen Louisa
Spouse's last name de Pothonier
Spouse's age -
Residence Deptford, Kent, England
County Kent
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

341, Kennington Road, Lambeth, London & Surrey, England

Raymond B Brocklebank Head Married Male 29 1852 Commercial Clerk Greenwich, Kent, England
Elena L Brocklebank Wife Married Female 32 1849 - Camden Town, Middlesex, England
Amy E Brocklebank Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Lewisham, Kent, England
Francis N Brocklebank Son Single Male 3 1878 - Forest Hill, Kent, England
Jennul D Fothonier Brocklebank Son Single Male 1 1880 - Gravesend, Kent, England

tree on ancestry suggests these are the children of annie e broclebank and claude t hurley but no marriage found

Annie De Pothonier Hurley

1904–
Claude W F Hurley

1906–1974
Morris P Hurley

1908–1987
Helen Clara Hurley

1909–1909
Aline Hurley

1915

1911 Census For England & Wales

48 Arden St Coventry, Coventry, Warwickshire, England

Claude T Hurley Head Married Male 31 1880 Commercial Clerk Leytanston Essex
Annie E Hurley Wife Married Female 32 1879 - Lewisham Kent
Annie De Pothoneir Hurley Daughter - Female 7 1904 School Forest Gate Essex
Claude W F Hurley Son - Male 5 1906 - Coventry Warwick
Morris P Hurley Son - Male 2 1909 - Coventry Warwic

Claude Theodore
Last name Hurley
Service number 202180
Rank Gunner
Regiment Royal Horse Artillery And Royal Field Artillery
Battalion -
Battalion details -
Residence Coventry, Warwick
Birth place -
Enlistment place Coventry
Death year 1917
Death day 17
Death month 8
Cause of death Killed in action
Death place France & Flanders
Theatre of war Western European Theatre
Supplementary Notes FORMERLY 82218, R.G.A.

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First name(s) Claude Theodore
Last name Hurley
Birth year 1880
Age 37
Death year 1917
Death date 17 Aug 1917
Number 202180
Rank Gunner
Unit 463rd Bty. 179th Bde.
Regiment Royal Field Artillery
Grave reference I. M. 4.
Cemetery or memorial Aix-Noulette Communal Cemetery Extension
Burial country France
Additional information Son of Walter and Clara Hurley; husband of Amie Edith Hurley, of 48, Arden St., Earlsdon, Coventry. Born in London.
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Francis
Last name Pothonier
Age 27
Birth year 1819
Residence -
Marriage year 1846
Parish St Mary-Le-Strand
Spouse's first name(s) Ellen
Spouse's last name Beeston
Spouse age 28
Spouse's birth year 1818
Father's first name(s) Francis John Nicholas
Father's last name Pothonier
Spouse's father's first name(s) Joseph
Spouse's father's last name Talbot
County Middlesex
Country England

Francis
Last name Pothonier
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1818
Baptism date 17 Jul 1818
Place -
County London
Country England
Father's first name(s) Francis
Father's last name Pothonier
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Mother's last name -

Name: Ellen Beeston
[Ellen Talbott]
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 28
Birth Date: abt 1818
Marriage Date: 13 May 1846
Marriage Place: St Mary Le Strand, London, Westminster, England
Parish as it Appears: St Mary le Strand
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Father: Joseph Talbott
Spouse: Francis Pothonier

Name: Ellen Talbot
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 17 Feb 1816
Baptism Place: Islington St Mary, Islington, England
Father: Joseph Talbot
Mother: Hannah Talbot
Register Type: Parish Registers