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If you purchase Norma's marriage cert. to your dad you might be able to find out her age and her father's name.

Rose

hi,

just an update...thank you for all your information, I still have not had any luck but I will keep looking.
Thank you for all of your help!

Have sent you another private message just in case she is using her mother's maiden name.

Kath. x

thanks Kath! This is the correct marriage and birth...
I have no idea how to look into the present records to find her

Not sure if it's the one you are looking for (it's earlier than you thought) but there is a birth in Spain for a Deborah Engel. I will send the record by private message.

Kath. x

Marriages Mar 1961 (>99%)
ENGEL Edward E PICKERING Durham N.W. 1a 1204
PICKERING Norma ENGEL Durham N.W. 1a 1204

If your father was Deborah's father, and Norma, his wife, was her mother, the birth will have been registered as Engel.

The only reason for it to be in another name would be if your father wasn't the girl's father

BUT.........you wrote

....................may actually have been born in Spain

So you need to start looking further afield, perhaps

thank you I will try that, I don't but I will put his tree here.

Do you have you dad in your tree on this site? Might be worth adding him in case Deborah looks.

Rose

Norma Pickering married Engel in 1961 in Durham

No Engel/Pickering births on freebmd..

No re-marriage for either of them on freebmd

I don't know her re - married name. No, Norma was my dad's wife and my dad is Deborah's father. he died many years ago not leaving much information.

I am not sure she took my dad's last name but that would be Engel

You say Norma 're-married', so what was her first married name?

Is/was Norma your mother?

Do you know when and where she was born? Year of birth only.

Can you tell us Norma's married surname?

Just the surname - no other details, please.

Pickering was her mother
s maiden name. Norma did remarry and I am not sure if her husband adopted Deborah. As I think about it I know she grew up in Newcastle upon Tyne but may actually have been born in Spain

Messaged Laura yesterday. Message has been read but no response.

Rose

There's a Newcastle birth in 1972 - but only if Pickering wasn't Norma's maiden
name.


ADDED:
But there's a marriage of possible parents in Durham in 1969 - not Norma.

That's a fair old way from Newcastle ;-) ;-)

Birth is reg June 1967 Hull reg district
It’s on freebmd.

Doesn’t indicate she was adopted ,was she ?

Is Pickering Norma's maiden name or her married name?

Rose

Not seeing her birth here:

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Did she stay with her mother or was she adopted?

Rose