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30 Apr 2018 23:51 |
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Births Mar 1925 (>99%) Price Horace G Hall Headington 3a 1622
Horace George Price in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Horace George Price Death Age: 83 Birth Date: 30 Nov 1924 Registration Date: Mar 2007 Registration district: Chiltern Inferred County: Buckinghamshire Volume: -1 Page: -1 Register Number: 1D001 District and Subdistrict: 327/1D
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UK electoral registers 2002-2014 Transcription First name(s) Horace G Last name Price Age guide Address 224, Hatters Lane, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, HP13 7LU Town High Wycombe District High Wycombe County Buckinghamshire Country England Year 2002-03 Electoral rolls 2002, 2003 Occupancy (years) 3 Record set Uk Electoral Registers 2002-2014 Category Census, land & surveys Subcategory Electoral Rolls Collections from Great Britain, England
High Wycombe is an English town northwest of London. It's in the rolling countryside of the Chiltern Hills
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30 Apr 2018 23:24 |
Phyllis Beryl Price in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Phyllis Beryl Price Death Age: 63 Birth Date: 11 Oct 1924 Registration Date: Jun 1988 Registration district: Wycombe Inferred County: Buckinghamshire Volume: 19 Page: 1308
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30 Apr 2018 20:59 |
Hi Carol
The 1939 Register has Phyllis B Hancox ...single.......but it indicates that she later married a Mr Wall and then a Mr Price.
Which as you say, she did.... in 1941.........
Marriages Mar 1941 (>99%) Hancox Phyllis B Wall Carmarthen 11a 2485 Wall Arthur B Hancox Carmarthen 11a 2485
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Marriages Dec 1948 (>99%) Hancox Phyllis B Price Amersham 6a 585 Price Horace G Wall Amersham 6a 585 Price Horace G Hancox Amersham 6a 585 Wall Phyllis B Price Amersham 6a 585
A Horace G Price though and not James Price.
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Carol
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30 Apr 2018 20:33 |
PricklyHolly - thank you - yes this is the family. They were living in Tower House on the Glanbrydan estate and Matthew (born 7 June 1887) was the groundsman. That's very valuable information. I know that Phyllis (known as Beryl) migrated to Bucks during the war and she wrote home to her sisters telling them about the wonderful social life in the bright lights of Bucks. Her two younger sisters also migrated and all three worked in an armaments factory (Rotax) where all three sisters met their husbands. It's the information about Phyllis which interests me and the presence of Arthur Wall. Phyllis is listed as single nee Hancox was Wall. Yes she married Arthur B Wall (her mother's half brother) but in 1941, the marriage failed and she remarried 'James' Price but in 1948! I don't subscribe to FindMyPast so don't have access to the 1939 register - can it be altered online? Beryl was 15 in 1939 but married in Carmarthen in 1941 to this Arthur Wall who was living with the family in 1939. Why is she listed as Price when she didn't remarry (in Bucks) until 1848 and she met James Price at Rotax.
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30 Apr 2018 19:07 |
Matthew Hancox BIRTH 1887 DEATH 26 Nov 1979 (aged 91–92) BURIAL Chilterns Crematorium Amersham, Chiltern District, Buckinghamshire, England MEMORIAL ID 155405686 ·
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/155405686
Wife Ellen
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Name: Ellen Hancox Death Age: 94 Birth Date: 18 Jan 1900 Registration Date: Jan 1994 Registration district: Llanelli Inferred County: Dyfed Register Number: A12E District and Subdistrict: 8201A
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30 Apr 2018 18:53 |
Is this your Matthew on the 1939 Register...
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Mathew Hancox on the 1939 Register
Hancox Household (8 People) Glanbrydan Lodge , Llandeilo R.D., Carmarthenshire, Wales
Mathew Hancox 01 May 1892 Male General Labourer Heavy W Married 53 1 Helen Hancox 18 Jan 1900 Female Unpaid Domestic Dutie Married 53 2 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Phyllis B Price (Hancox,Wall) 11 Oct 1924 Female Domestic Duties Single 53 4 Sorry, this record is officially closed. Sorry, this record is officially closed. Eric A R Hancox 12 Apr 1936 Male Under School Age Single 53 7 Arthur S Wall 29 Jan 1910 Male Pawn Brokers Assist Single 53 8
If it is, it's rather odd that it has his YOB as 1892!
Marriages Jun 1922 (>99%) Bryant Nellie Hancox Llandilofawr 11a 2434 HANCOX Matthew Bryant Llandilofawr 11a 2434
MMN for Phyllis and Eric is Bryant.
Surname of the first child mis-transcribed
Births Sep 1922 (>99%) Hanncox Eleanor M V Bryant Llandilofawr 11a 2301
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Carol
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30 Apr 2018 17:43 |
Many thanks for all your contributions - I have copies of Matthew (1887) and Selina's (1891) birth certificates and yes Matthew snr is given as father on both - (deceased) on Selina's which is borne out by the 1891 census return where their mother Elizabeth is listed as widow. Matthew's occupation is given as plate layer on both certificates. I hadn't found Selina's baptism on 04/03/1891 at St John Tipton - so thank you EricaH for finding that. She died 3rd Q 1892 aged 1 Stourbridge - I don't have this certificate but will get it from GRO. This registration district seems to indicate that the family had moved out of the workhouse when she died.
Matthew jnr (1887) was my husband's maternal grandfather and yes he died in Bucks in 1979. His history is interesting - family lore has it that Matthew and his brother James fought regularly and one day during one of their fights a knife was involved and Matthew lost the sight in one eye. Boys will be boys. Family lore also has it that Matthew didn't get on with his step father Edward Green and he was admitted to Gem Street Industrial School where he can be found on the 1901 census whilst his mother, step father and brother James were living in Tower Street, Dudley.
For those of you who may not have come across Industrial Schools before - they were not places of punishment but an opportunity for 'troubled' youngsters to learn a trade - the school even found employment and arranged transport to that employment but it seems young Matthew jumped the gun and ran away! Family lore has it that he walked the railway lines and found himself in Llandeilo, Wales.
He met his wife Ellen (known as Nellie) who was in service in the area and they married in 1922 in Llandeilo. To cut a very long story short, he worked for many years as groundsman at Glanbrydan Park and they had 5 children - my late mother-in-law was their middle child. Matthew was well into his 70's when he eventually retired - meanwhile 3 of their daughters had migrated to the bright lights of Bucks and Matthew and Nellie retired to Bucks to be close to their family.
I can't find any record of Matthew snr's death - neither can I find a marriage for him and Elizabeth - Elizabeth was born in Ashby-de-la-Zouche, Leics and I live fairly close to Leicester Record Office so will take a drive up there soon - maybe the parish registers will yield some results.
Meanwhile if anyone has any more leads on my brick wall I'd love to hear from you!
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ErikaH
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30 Apr 2018 12:25 |
That one is too late, malyon, and wrong MMN
HANCOX, JAMES HENRY GWYNN Order GRO Reference: 1886 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 124
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
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malyon
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30 Apr 2018 12:25 |
James Henry Hancox United Kingdom, World War I Service Records, 1914-1920 Name: James Henry Hancox Event Type: Military Service Event Year: 1914 Residence Place: Dudley, , Age: 28 Military Company/Regiment: Worcestershire Regiment Military Regiment: 200943 Military Battalion: 1/7th Battalion Birth Year (Estimated): 1885
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ErikaH
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30 Apr 2018 12:23 |
Name Matthew Hancox Residence Place Dudley, Worcester, England Gender Male Christening Date 13 Jun 1887 Christening Date (Original) 13 Jun 1887 Christening Place St. Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England Birth Date 02 Jun 1887 Father's Name Matthew Hancox Mother's Name Elizabeth Hancox
Name Selina Hancock Event Type Baptism Event Date 04 Mar 1891 Event Place Tipton, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original) Tipton, Staffordshire, England Parish St John Father's Name Matthew Hancock Mother's Name Elizabeth Hancock
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malyon
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30 Apr 2018 12:21 |
James Henry Hancox England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008 Name: James Henry Hancox Event Type: Birth Registration Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration Year: 1886 Registration District: Dudley County: Staffordshire Event Place: Dudley, Staffordshire, England Volume: 6C Page: 124 Line Number: 123
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ErikaH
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30 Apr 2018 12:04 |
First name(s) Matthew Last name Hancox Relationship Inmate Marital status - Sex Male Age 14 Birth year 1887 Birth town Dudley Birth town as transcribed DUDLEY Birth place England Birth county as transcribed WORCESTERSHIRE Occupation School Boy - Parish Birmingham Country England County Warwickshire Municipal ward St Mary Registration district Birmingham
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ErikaH
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30 Apr 2018 12:01 |
Deaths Dec 1979 (>99%) HANCOX MATTHEW 7JE1887 CHILTERN/B 19 1084
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ErikaH
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30 Apr 2018 11:41 |
For info - with a more realistic birth year for Elizabeth
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Court House, 1, Tower Street, Dudley, Dudley (Worcs), Worcestershire & Staffordshire, England Edward Green Head Married Male 36 1865 Worcestershire, England General Labourer Transcription Elizabeth Green Wife Married Female 46 1855 Ashby de la Zouch, Leicestershire, England - Transcription James Hancox Wife Son Single Male 16 1885 Hednesford, Staffordshire, England Glass Cutter
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ErikaH
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30 Apr 2018 11:32 |
HANCOX, SELINA MOORE Order GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 81
HANCOX, MATTHEW MOORE Order GRO Reference: 1887 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 89
Can't see a birth for James, nor a marriage for the parents
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ErikaH
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30 Apr 2018 11:26 |
To find connections on here, look for the names in search all member trees
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PricklyHolly
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30 Apr 2018 11:16 |
That is not the correct Matthew Malyon
That Matthew died the year he was born...
Matthew Hancox in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Matthew Hancox Registration Year: 1857 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Coventry Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 397
Matthew Hancox in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Matthew Hancox Registration Year: 1857 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Coventry Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 270
Name: Matthew Hancox Gender: Male Burial Date: 28 Aug 1857 Burial Place: Coventry, Warwick, England FHL Film Number: 1067462 Reference ID: 194
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malyon
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30 Apr 2018 10:50 |
spelt hancock in familysearch
Matthew Hancock England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Matthew Hancock Residence Place: Coventry, Warwick, England Gender: Male Christening Date: 22 Feb 1857 Christening Date (Original): 22 Feb 1857 Christening Place: St. Peter's, Coventry, Warwick, England Father's Name: Henry Hancock Mother's Name: Lydia
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malyon
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30 Apr 2018 10:42 |
not seeing a marriage for matthew and elizabeth and not finding a death for matthew
this is the only birth for a matthew hancox i can find
Births Mar 1857 (>99%) Hancox Matthew Coventry 6d 397
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30 Apr 2018 10:29 |
Matthew Hancock mentioned in the record of Selina Hancock Name: Matthew Hancock Sex: Male Wife: Elizabeth Hancock Child: Selina Hancock Other information in the record of Selina Hancock from England, Staffordshire, Church Records
Name: Selina Hancock Event Type: Baptism Event Date: 04 Mar 1891 Event Place: Tipton, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Tipton, Staffordshire, England Parish: St John Father's Name: Matthew Hancock Mother's Name: Elizabeth Hancock
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