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Sarah E Griffiths born in Carmarthen 1936 is one of the two I thought possible (earlier post.)

Do you actually have the certificate, Paulette? If so, can you give us all the details on it, please? (Or not, if she's still alive.)

EDIT:
Oh, I see AQ has already asked that.

On thinking more about it -

if Sarah's birth was registered in Carmarthen in 1936, she can't be the child referred to in the 1933 court case.

But she could be the child in the photo.

Confused? I certainly am.

No, but it could be her own child?

Difficult to know without the certificate details- although my feeling at the moment is that it's not related (the Griffiths surname wasn't added to the 1939 register until 1954 Middlesex) .

I'm still curious about the Kathleen Cunningham birth.

I'll should be around tomorrow, I'll have another little dig then.

I wonder if this is Sarah E in 1939 register? YOB wrong, but place right.
If so, she's not Ruth's child:

Baby (Sarah Elizabeth) Griffiths (Morris) 1937 Newcastle Emlyn R.D. Carmarthenshire

I don't have any information on the will you cannot look it up you have to buy it. I will continue searching. Don't have the certificate for Sarah E Griffiths as yet. Thank you your help.

I've had a busy morning. I've only just got on the computer!

Paulette- do you know the names of Ruth's parents?

If they married in Devon, there are only two possibles 1900-12:

Marriages Sep 1903 (>99%)
May Hannah Plymouth 5b 633
Williams Joseph Plymouth 5b 633
(Possibly living in Flintshire in 1911, but both also born there, so maybe not. Also wouldn't fit with Ruth's birth Devonport 1912))


Marriages Jun 1903 (>99%)
May Annie Louisa Plymouth 5b 624
Williams William James Plymouth 5b 624

(Living in Plymouth 1911)


There are a few possible marriages elsewhere, but not many.

Need to do a little more digging, but just putting this up so I can remember where I am:

According to the 1939 register her name change (whether by deedpole or marriage) was registered in Middlesex 1954, so it's likely Ruth was in the Middlesex area at this time.

Possible:
1945- 1948 electoral registers- Ruth Cunningham living at 31 Celia Crescent, Staines, Spelthorne
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Then in 1951 this Ruth Griffiths pops up

EDIT: Possibly not our Ruth- there is a Bert Griffiths marriage to Ruth Gllagher in 1950 Northumberland, and a birth of a possible child to this marriage in Middlesex.

1951- 1964 electoral registers- Ruth Griffiths living 534 Staines Road, Spelthorne with Bert Griffiths

1965 electoral registers- Ruth Griffiths living at 12a Stewart Avenue with Bert Griffiths

1968- Bert listed in phonebook- 12a Stewart Ave, Shepperton, Chertsey
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AG- that's why I was asking, I've already looked and can't be sure- Paulette said Ruth's father died aged 56.

I wanted to know if the family stayed in the Devon area.

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as v ou commit a crime you become indispensable.” The woman, Ruth Cunningham (30), of Fox hi 11 Road, Reading, was sentenced to three months for bigamy, the judge remarking that bigamy is so common it is impossible to overlook it. Schem**e to Stop Coal
***15 March 1943 - Manchester Evening News - Manchester, Greater

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maybe aged 31 after March 1943 giving a birth 1912.

Fab Kay!

OK- so the bigamy could be the Frearson marriage? So perhaps Ruth never divorced? Or maybe married again after Frearson? A shame the article doesn't list the husband.

The article:

Manchester Evening News - Monday 15 March 1943

JUDGE ON 'INDESPENSABLE' WAR WORKERS

When Counsel at Oxford Assizes today pleaded for a woman aircraft inspector who was charged with bigamy, and, who he said, was engaged in important national work. Mr Justice Charles remarked 'It amuses me how many of these people come before me. A man who is possibly a valet, soon becomes an inspector at a wage of £7 or £8 a week. Since the war I have never come across the prisoner engaged on national work is not indispensable. As soon as you commit a crime you become indispensable' The woman, Ruth Cunningham (30) of Foxhill Road, Reading was sentenced to three months for bigamy, the judge remarking that bigamy is so common it is impossible to overlook it.

Good find, Kay!

There are a few references to Justice Charles remarks- but I can't see any that give further details of the case:

Yorkshire Evening Post - Monday 15 March 1943

THE INDISPENSABLES
Before sentencing a woman aircraft Inspector at Oxford Assizes to three months for bigamy, to-day, Mr. Justice Charles was told she was on important national work. The Judge commented, " It amuses me how many of these people come before me. A man who is possibly a valet soon becomes an inspector at a wage of seven eight pounds week. Since the war, I have never come across the prisoner engaged on national work who is not indispensable. As soon as you commit a crime, you become indispensable."

Justice Charles' remarks also mentioned in Staffordshire Advertiser - Saturday 03 April 1943

My Grandmother live in Plymouth all her life I had a baby 1974 and my Grandmother died that year I think she was almost 100 years she was born Sarah May.
I got to you pulled out all the stops finding out about my Auntie Ruth your all amazing.
Not been on much today not having a good day having a Neurological Disorder I have days I can barley walk. Reading all your findings put a smile on my face. Thank to you all.

I can't see a connection but putting this here so someone else can look

There are two Frearson births mmn Griffiths in 1934 & 1937, I can't see a marriage but may have missed it. probably no connection but thought as the names cropped up it was worth a look.

I don't see a marriage of a Williams to Sarah May in Plymouth. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the relationships?


The Frearson/Griffiths births are in Wycombe, Bucks, and Watford, Herts. - for whatever that's worth. Ernest doesn't seem to have been in either place at that time - but maybe Ruth was.


E S Frearson
in the British Phone Books, 1880-1984
Name: E S Frearson
Address: Fnnr,Odhtone [Farmer, Odstone Farm, Ashbury.]
Publication Year: 1935
Directory Place: Norfolk, Essex, Berkshire, Surrey, Hertfordshire, Sussex, Kent, Hampshire, Gloucestershire, Devon, Glamorganshire
Exchange: farm
Directory Title: Norwich / Cambridge / Essex / East Suffolk / East Hertfordshire / South Midland / Guildford / Brighton / Tunbridge Wells / Canterbury / Southampton / Portsmouth / Bournemouth / Bristol / Exeter / Plymouth / South Wales / Gloucester
Page Number: 57

Googling Odstone Farm, Ashbury produces two places of the same name, one in Oxfordshire, and one in Swindon. This seems to be the Swindon one, per this link re Ernest's brother:

http://cemeteryjunctionwargraves.org.uk/brian-harold-frearson/


Ernest S Frearson
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Ernest S Frearson
Gender: Male
Age: 5
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1886
Father: Henry I Frearson
Mother: Annie M Frearson
Birth Place: Barton Stacey, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Ashbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Ashbury
Residence Place: Idstone Tything, Ashbury, Berkshire, England [ Odstone Farm]
Registration district: Faringdon
Sub registration district: Shrivenham
ED, Institution or Vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 974
Folio: 53
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry I Frearson 33
Annie M Frearson 32
Frederic H Frearson 10
William J Frearson 8
Arthur E Frearson 7
Ernest S Frearson 5
Annie M Frearson 3
Herbert Frearson 1
Laura E Frearson 3/12
Sarah Ann Beckett 20


He's at that address also in various years until 1946.

It's a pity it's just a phone book entry, and not an ER to see who's with him.

Perhaps those births are from this marriage:

Marriages Sep 1933 (>99%)
Freearson Arthur H Griffiths Coventry 6d 2178
Griffiths Maud Freearson Coventry 6d 2178

Just for reference- this is Ruth's parents. Seems to be an error on the marriage index.

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
116 Charlotte St Devonport, Devonport, Devon, England

Arthur Radford Williams Head Married Male Painter House 30 1881 Cornwall Lattash
Sarah Williams Wife Married Female - 28 1883 Cornwall Camborne
Winifred Williams Daughter - Female - 3 1908 Cornwall Lattash

married 5 years- 3 children, 1 still living.
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Births

WILLIAMS, FREDERICK ARTHUR (mother's maiden name:MAY)
GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in ST GERMANS Volume 05C Page 38
(died 1906)

WILLIAMS, WINIFRED MAY (mother's maiden name: MAY)
GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in ST GERMANS Volume 05C Page 35

WILLIAMS, ARTHUR EDGAR (mother's maiden name: MAY)
GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in DEVONPORT Volume 05B Page 313
(died 1909)

WILLIAMS, GEORGE (mother's maiden name: MAY)
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in DEVONPORT Volume 05B Page 307
(died 1911)
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1939:
William Household (4 People) 17 George Street , Plymouth C.B., Devon, England

Arthur R William 31 Mar 1881 Male House Painetr Unemployed Married
Sarah William 01 Feb 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Sorry, this record is officially closed.
Sorry, this record is officially closed.

Arthur's death:
First name(s) ARTHUR R
Last name WILLIAMS
Gender Male
Birth year 1881
Age 59
Death quarter 1
Death year 1940
District Plymouth
County Devon
Volume 5B Page 1181

oh, but hold on- birth date for Sarah on the 1939 register doesn't match the DOB on the 1974 death:

Name: Sarah Williams
Death Age: 89
Birth Date: 1 Apr 1884
Registration Date: Mar 1974
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a Page: 2230
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Ruth's sister Winifred married 1927:
First name(s) Winnifred May
Last name Williams
Marriage year 1927
Marriage date 26 Dec 1927
Parish St Stephen
Place Devonport, St Stephen
Spouse's first name(s) Charles William
Spouse's last name Anderson
Denomination Anglican
City or town Devonport

Ernest in 1939:

Odstone Farm , Faringdon R.D., Berkshire, England
Ernest S Frairson 05 Aug 1885 Male Farmer Single